r/facepalm • u/Reddit_Sucks_1401 • 2d ago
What even is this? đ˛âđŽâđ¸âđ¨â
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u/Sargatanus 2d ago
Forbes lets anyone write for their opinion section. Half of the stuff there reads like it was scraped straight from 4chan or Quora.
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u/Professional-Hat-687 1d ago
Also it's by Virgie Tovar, who desperately needs to get a real job.
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u/Low_Cartographer2944 1d ago
I donât ask Virgies for their relationship advice
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u/Stucklikegluetomyfry 1d ago
Oh my god, Virgie Tovar. The grown ass woman who made a video of her destroying vegetables with a machete. Like...I think she was in her late thirties early forties when she made that video, yet she still seemed to be pissed about all the times she was told "eat your veggies or you won't get any dessert" as a child.
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u/silverboognish 1d ago edited 1d ago
She also accused writer Samantha Irby of âstealingâ the idea of a fat friendly pool party for the episode of Huluâs series Shrill that Irby wrote.
However, fat friendly pool parties have been around for a while. Tovar was upset because she wrote about those parties in one of her books, and so of course THE ONLY way that someone else could have heard about those parties was through her book!!!1 Ridiculous.
I am sympathetic to the fat acceptance movement, but Virgie Tovar is not its best representative. Whatever weird baggage she has is not doing her any favors.
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u/Professional-Hat-687 1d ago
I think fat acceptance has some good points sometimes, but it's an extremely weird needle to thread and so many in the movement seem unable to do anything except throw themselves headfirst into the Oppression Olympics.
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u/Juxtapo5ed 1d ago
It's less fat acceptance than it is about treating people with dignity regardless of body type. It's like people are tired of being ridiculed by strangers for simply trying to exist. It's not that anyone has to accept it, it's that everyone should realize it's none of their damn business and no one worth a grain of salt cares about their shitty opinions.
Let's be honest here though, it has everything to do with her being a woman because Hollywood has been pairing classically unattractive men with model-esque women for years.
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u/Professional-Hat-687 1d ago
Wait until you hear her speak. I honestly don't care that she's heavy; shes such an insufferable twat. A real feminist wouldn't tell other women how much cake they're allowed to eat, Virgie.
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u/1amDepressed 1d ago edited 1d ago
Good lord, wtf is that video? Not only is her voice really annoying, but condescending.
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u/IMadeThisSoICanLurk 1d ago
Jesus Christ. Sheâs so obsessed with what other people think of her she canât enjoy the piece of cake she wants to enjoy without everyone else eating the same amount? Not everyone likes to eat a fuckton of cake you stupid idiot. Not everyone even likes cake. Jesus fuck.
Can you imagine not realizing that youâre literally sending the opposite message of what you âintendedâ with this video?
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u/roast-tinted 1d ago
Yeah I'm a dude and I don't like cake. I still bake/buy them for my family but I don't partake. I prefer a whole ass block of chocolate to myself, yet if I so no thanks I'm fat phobic? These people have no real adversity in their lives and have to come up with some way to be the victim for that sweet sweet sympathy
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u/every_name-istaken 1d ago
You misunderstand. That doesnât makes you fat phobic. It makes you fat phobic and sexist.
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u/Professional_Echo907 1d ago
Iâm fucking fat and I love cake but you donât have to make it your entire goddamned existence, Virgie. đ
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u/Stucklikegluetomyfry 1d ago
Also that cake looks pretty disgusting. Like, fine for an eight year old's birthday party but not for a middle aged woman to be so obsessed over that she takes it as a personal insult if you don't want a big slice.
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u/roast-tinted 1d ago
Wow she is a narcissist. She thinks people all like cake all the time? I don't ever really eat cake but I don't eat particularly healthy, it's just not something I enjoy. So I'm fat phobic if I ask for no cake? This woman has never faced the real world obviously.
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u/IknowwhatIhave 1d ago
That sounds an awful like the Christian anti-gay bigots who assume that every man has the same "sinful temptations" as they do, when actually they are just gay and repressed.
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u/williamtkelley 1d ago
It's got to be a parody, right?
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u/Professional-Hat-687 1d ago
She is very serious and one of the pillars of the fat activism movement. A well known crazy.
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u/uncle_flacid 1d ago
Fat activism. Fuck, if this shit would've existed when I was fat I would've been ashamed of being fat.
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u/Technical-Banana-498 1d ago
Goddamn that whole video reeked of Iâm so quirky and condescending energy
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u/Aedrieus 1d ago
The way she describes herself as a "fat activist"... yup, definitely the only thing active about her.
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u/gedubedangle 1d ago
incredible. before i clicked that i closed my eyes and pictured her. she's pretty much spot on to what i pictured
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u/Lopkop 1d ago
fuck whoever decided that simply being fat was its own identity
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u/Auran82 1d ago
As someone who is overweight and needs to lose some of it, one of the funniest things I heard someone say on the subject was YouTuber/streamer Asmongold of all people.
âYou know whatâs fat phobic? Your body is.â
If you struggle to lose weight or get the motivation to do so, I get that, but donât bury your head in the sand and pretend that being overweight is healthy.
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u/MurphyPandorasLawBox 1d ago
You mean that checks notes being a âfat activistâ isnât a real job?
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u/SmoothOperator89 1d ago
Forbes really is just Cosmo for finance bros.
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u/BZenMojo 1d ago
Astrology for finance bros? Stocks.
Crystals for finance bros? NFTs.
Eat, Pray, Love for finance bros? Wolf of Wall Street.
Fried Green Tomatoes for finance bros? Wall Street.
The Euro for finance bros? The Dollar.
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u/lizbee018 1d ago
This honestly makes so many things make so much more sense. I'm often like "wait ...this is Forbes?!"
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u/adamcmorrison 2d ago
Mixed weight romance
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u/dancegoddess1971 1d ago
Is that like competing above your weight class in wrestling or boxing? I wasn't aware this was a thing.
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u/OneHundredEighty180 1d ago
In this corner, wearing the black and gold trunks standing 5 foot 4 and weighing in at 235 pounds, the Master of Ass'er, Faaarrrrrrrrrttttiiiiiiiicccuuusssssssss!
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u/Iwantmy3rdpartyapp 1d ago
No, I am Farticus!
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u/OneHundredEighty180 1d ago
This is going to make the Metamucil and Cheerios sponsorship more difficult if there's an Ass-action lawsuit. Butt-out.
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u/HairyZookeepergame52 1d ago
I was raised on mixed weight relationships
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u/HairyZookeepergame52 1d ago
4 words The King of Queens
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u/Powerful_Lynx_4737 1d ago
Yea but the man was heavier. Itâs never an issue when the man is heavier, but god forbid the woman is bigger their little brains canât comprehend why a man would love his partner no matter their weight.
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u/-CuriousityBot- 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think that's a less impactful statement when the husband is fat as part of playing a fat-oaf character. As a chubby dude, I don't exactly see the king of queens as empowering or inspiring.
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u/AskMeForAPhoto 1d ago
It's not meant to be empowering or inspiring though. It's the fact men can play just about any role and audiences are fine with it. But as soon as the genders are reversed, suddenly it's an issue.
And also, the "oaf" character, is always redeemed through heart and comedy. They're viewed as flawed but ultimately loveable characters. People think Homer is stupid but we love him anyways.
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u/TheInfamousDingleB 1d ago
yeah but we didnât see them engage in softcore porn and slow camera pans of Dougs ass
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u/Donglemaetsro 1d ago
I saw a website the other day listing all the shows with overweight guys and skinny wives in TV.
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u/Melodic-Supermarket7 1d ago
The exact face I made đ¤Łđ¤Ł didnât expect it to be the first comment
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u/SunshotDestiny 1d ago
Apparently these people haven't seen sitcoms for the last couple of the decades
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u/Radiant_Bluebird4620 1d ago
The man is always the person with the higher bmi in sitcoms, except possibly the original Rosanne.
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u/HairyZookeepergame52 1d ago edited 1d ago
Kyleâs Mom is fatter than Kyleâs dad in South Park
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u/Radiant_Bluebird4620 1d ago
Eric's mom is his dad
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u/Yakostovian 1d ago
Eric's mom is his mom. Cartman's dad was eaten by his half-brother.
Get out of here with your out-of-date information!
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u/kromptator99 1d ago
You see, in this instance it isnât played for laughs, and some mean girls who never grew up are big mad.
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u/Fickle_Ad_2112 2d ago
Plenty of big fat men with skinny women on shows. Always have been
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u/tabristheok 1d ago
It is interesting that "fat guy skinny wife" has been a sitcom staple for years, but you rarely see it go the other way.
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u/shann1021 1d ago
Kevin Jamesâ entire career.
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u/BenderDeLorean 1d ago
I loved the idea of 'Kevin can fuck himself'. A sit com that shows the dark side of living with a fat asshole. Too bad the execution was not great - still good idea.
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u/RelativeStranger 1d ago
What? The execution was excellent. At least series 1. Series 2 wasn't released for free over here
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u/Ok_Use_8899 1d ago
I got put off that show because it was billed as a comedy. If I didn't come in with the mindset I would get some chuckles, I'd probably have enjoyed the first episode more. It was grim.
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u/PurringWolverine 1d ago
I honestly canât think of any sitcom that has been successful with skinny guy/fat wife. Fat wife only works if the husband is also fat.
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u/JacksonIVXX 1d ago
Reba . Her husband left her for a bigger woman.
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u/smalltownVT 1d ago
American Housewife with Katy Mixon and Diedrich Bader. Sheâs wasnât like obese, but her face shape, large chest, and post baby body were in stark contrast to the mean PTA moms she dealt with at school.
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u/Tiny-Reading5982 1d ago
Her face wasnât even big though. I have a round face which looks fat no matter and hers is a good shape lol.
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u/Content_Chemistry_64 1d ago
There were a few instances where there was a smaller man and an obese wife. I think even some old cartoons would show it. I just can't name any. The husband was generally a complete slave to his wife.
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u/Odd_Age1378 1d ago
âJack Sprat could eat no fat, his wife could eat no lean, And so between the two of them, they licked the platter clean.â
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u/stevewood6 1d ago
Yep came here to say just this. How long have we watched beautiful women with the chubby dad whoâs not a good husband or father but somehow we are suppose to believe sheâs still head over heels for him.
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u/Bravens1223 'MURICA 1d ago
Family Guy, The Simpsons, Gumball, The Fairly Oddparents, American Dad, all off the top of my head. Plenty more that I'm not thinking of, but I can easily continue considering this is a trope that's been around forever. Yet it's somehow a problem in role reversal with a chubby wife
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u/Sweet-Emu6376 1d ago
That's because men's value in society is their earning potential. As long as their weight doesn't get in the way of that, they're welcomed as "one of the guys". Think about any popular TV show. Skinny, conventionally attractive, guy with no job, no car, is often a "loser", or as TLC put it "a scrub". Large guy with no money is usually depicted as some sort of uneducated hillbilly. Large guy with lots of money wears fancy suits and smokes cigars.
Women's value in society is their appearance. The trope of wives "letting themselves go" is as ancient as patriarchal society itself. Once your standing is secure, you don't have to worry about your appearance unless you want to.
The fact that these outdated beliefs are still prevalent today just shows how much work still needs to be done towards a more equal society.
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u/Live_Carpenter_1262 1d ago
72% of screen plays are written by guys so maybe this culture shift in ending stereotypes should start with our gender instead of hoisting it upon women
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u/OUMUAMUAMUAMUAMUAMUA 1d ago
My gf is bigger and older than me. I'm the lucky one. Fuck Forbes.
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u/LukeD1992 1d ago edited 1d ago
Clearly you guys were ready for an mixed-weight and mixed-age romance then
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u/Icy-Cockroach4515 1d ago
It doesn't even have to be fat men with skinny women or vice versa. Even the completely average man and average women will also technically be a mixed-weight relationship.
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u/God_Bless_A_Merkin 1d ago
Anyone who thinks mixed-weight marriages are new needs to come down south and visit the real boondocks: all the husbands look like a strip of rawhide left out in the sun for 40 years, and the wives look like they ate the lean, the fat, and Jack Sprat, too.
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u/Guilty_Speaker8 1d ago
Or visit any military function! All these fit in shape guys are married to regular American women
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u/jedensuscg 1d ago
The term is dependapotomus.
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u/cc51beastin 1d ago
Dependa's out here single handedly keeping the economy afloat by buying chevy tahoe's with their husband's paychecks
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u/ELIte8niner 1d ago
Tricareatops
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u/SleepyMastodon 1d ago
Iâve heard dependasaurus and dependapotomus, but this is the first time Iâve ever seen the masterpiece of a word that is tricareatops.
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u/Fabulous_Parking66 1d ago
Today I learnt I belong in the south.
But I think itâs the pattern of marriages where the husband has a labour intensive job. They work hard, they eat, their wives eats too because itâs hard not to when your husband brings home three blocks of chocolate and a family sized custard danish. The wife ends up eating significantly more than when she was single. Husband still loves his wife forever. So, not southern, probably just have lots of religious friends.
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u/sitophilicsquirrel 1d ago
I'm in urban North Texas and it's not as prevalent here specifically, but if I drive an hour out of the DFW metroplex it seems like that's all I see.
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u/westviadixie 1d ago
Jack sprat and his wife...
I was born in mississippi and grew up in louisiana. you're not wrong.
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u/Laurenwolf14 1d ago
Get the fuck outta here. Mixed weight?? Lol. This is just 2 people.
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u/Ravekat1 1d ago
Steady on. Donât call her that.
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u/NewLibraryGuy 1d ago
I wish I'd thought of this when I was double my wife's weight. That's fuckin funny
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u/Primary-Gold-1033 1d ago
Itâs a dumb label, and weâve seen plenty of big man/small woman on-screen relationships, but there is still something relatively new about portraying a bigger woman as a love interest story thatâs NOT exclusively about her weight.
How many people have asked Kevin James whether he thinks itâs brave for him to be shirtless on screen?
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u/cybered_punk 1d ago
It feels new because of established social stereotypes of men and women. Women always go for power and money and men always go for the youth and body. People find it surprising when they learn most people don't fit the stereotype.
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u/No_Banana_581 1d ago edited 1d ago
Sheâs not even big. Sheâs a uk size 10 ffs, thatâs an American size 6. She has a small waist too. Its bc she has a round face thatâs it, thats why theyâre calling her obese, like sheâs the size of the stay puff monster
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u/Yallneedjesuschrist 1d ago
There are older pictures of her where I could actually see her being a size 10 but I think she has gained weight since then. Canât believe she is still supposed to be a size 10 now.
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u/maringue 1d ago
We've had tons of fat dudes with skinny women, yet this happens and this bullshit is the headline?
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u/aloonatronrex 1d ago
American TV is built on this concept, it seems.
Attractive, thin women throwing themselves at unattractive overweight men normally, however.
Unattractive overweight women with attractive men is a new thing, I guess.
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u/Sufficient-Dare-2381 1d ago
And sheâs not even unattractive-just overweight.
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u/Evil_phd 1d ago
Mixed Weight Romances were a staple in television for literal decades...
... though granted it was almost always an overweight man who had inexplicably pulled the hottest smoke show on earth
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u/DeadlyPants16 2d ago
We don't need labels for fucking everything and I'm sick of it
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u/Wise-Juggernaut-8285 1d ago
Thats the thing. Making up terms for everything is so fucking annoying
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u/BonhommeCarnaval 1d ago
Do people not find Nicola Coughlan attractive in this show? Like sheâs got great skin and curves and theyâre giving her awesome hair and clothes too.Â
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u/phdpinup 1d ago
I think sheâs absolutely stunning! But I get what youâre saying- itâs like that journalist who asked her recently about âpeople like herâ and she commented âoh women with perfect breasts?â god, sheâs wonderful for that reply.
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u/ThrowRArosecolor 2d ago
We arenât ready for a relationship where the man is fit and the woman is overweight. (Even in the book, she is, so they arenât changing things).
The amount of shit that poor actress has gone through for daring to be sexual onscreen whilst being fat is insane.
(Also their first time is super sexy and female focused. Itâs so hot).
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u/kuzosake 1d ago
I wouldnât say no to her at all. The flak is fucking stupid.
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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 1d ago
I would say no to her, but I still agree that the flak is fucking stupid.
Just because she's not my ideal sexual preference doesn't mean she deserves to be shit on relentlessly.
And in the grand scheme of things, she's not even that big. If she was 200lb heavier it would make sense to talk about it, but watching the show it never occurred to me that the weight difference would be a thing.
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u/Slamantha3121 1d ago
The reactions to her body are wild to me. I weigh 300 lbs, I know I am fat. This girl is short and a little chubby. I would looooove to be as 'fat' as her!
thank you BluBalls for being normal about her body even if you aren't into it! It is not hard people!
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u/BabserellaWT 1d ago
How many times have we seen a hefty guy married to a skinny gal in sitcoms?
Oooooh, never mind. Different because everyone knows larger women are subhuman. Got it.
(Most definitely /s, btw.)
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u/Stewie_Venture 1d ago
Wait a minute how is this news why does anyone care in what world-oh wait this was written by virgie tovar? Miss. Cake related fatphobic incident, a woman that dumped a date cuz he didn't like ruffles or blue sour patch kids or something. Yah that checks out carry on then.
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u/thekinkyspengo 2d ago
I'm sick of all this "woke" stuff! What's next? Mixed-Height romance? /s
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u/Some_Ad511 2d ago
Fatty and skinny went to bed, fatty rolled over and skinny was dead.
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u/Cael_NaMaor 1d ago
I think it's pretty obviously asking if the public can handle a show where a beautiful over weight woman is romantic with a fit attractive man. I don't know of a show that has that... sure, you get the pretty slim wife & a chubby hubby... or both are relatively same size... but name a popular show where the wife is heavy & the hubby isn't & they have a romantic relationship...
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u/TraumSchulden 1d ago edited 1d ago
Defuck you call peter an lois, and to a less extreme, homer and marge.
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u/Feminazghul 2d ago
Oh my, I'm not sure we're ready. There has never ever been a TV show or movie where the man in a couple appeared to be heavy or even overweight and the woman appeared to be normal weight or underweight, so people might be confused and strip naked and run into the woods and never be seen again. đ¤Ż
(Some people will know that the Flintstones are based on an older TV show.)
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u/PsiNorm 1d ago
I think that's the point. People are fine with big guys and skinny girls because we're all OK with skinny girls.
The problem people have with this relationship portrayal is that it's the girl that larger.
I'm not sure why people can't observe a separate relationship without being like, "I'm not attracted to one of them, so the other shouldn't either". Just let the story be about two people that aren't you and enjoy it.
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u/Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrple 1d ago
Thank you, this thread is full of people wildly missing the point here.
Thereâs another aspect to this where in the book she loses weight before they end up together; itâs a change from the original story line that she stays fat. Some people donât like any deviation from the source material.
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u/ChalkCoatedDonut 1d ago
There are lots of couples like that in movies, books and series, Forbes tend o ignore them and appropriate of the concept as if they invented it, just like people recalled day drinking or alcoholism as "brunch".
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u/VibrantAura72 1d ago
Huh? Heavyset men have always been portrayed with supermodel like women throughout media when it comes to âmixed-weight romance on screen.â
You see this with the Cersei Lannister and Robert Baratheon in GOT.
The Zookeeper.
Any movie with Adam Sandler.
Any movie with Jack Black.
Other versions of Gomez Addams with Morticia Addams.
I can go on. You see this in real life as well. Very rarely you see the roles reversed. Reminds me of the couple in the internet, the husband being buff and conventionally attractive while she is unconventionally attractive. Or that actor with his lifelong wife. People criticize both men for marrying down and even encourage them to leave their wives while viciously fat shaming their wives.
Yet gods forbid if an overweight man with a conventionally attractive wife gets fat shamed.
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u/Superpupu 1d ago
How about Shallow Hal? Jack Black's character only sees his love interest as a gorgeous skinny woman because of hypnosis when in real life she's obese.
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u/El_GOOCE 1d ago
King of Queens was an entire show about this. Plenty of women were outraged at the concept of this beautiful women being with a fat man like it's just totally normal. People just don't want to see fat women doing normal things. It's a dumb double standard in our culture.
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u/RefrigeratorLazy4135 1d ago
What was that American show with the guy outta mall cop something of kings, great show proves they're wrong
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u/frogsarecool27 1d ago
why are people acting like these too people are not both insanely attractiveđđ
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u/laughingthalia 1d ago
Half of all sit-com and rom-com couples are mixed weight romances only its usually either a fat guy or a girl who says she's ugly and/or fat but in reality is neither and she just takes off her glasses and gets a makeover.
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u/ChrisCrossX 1d ago
We had a million movies about mixed weight romances. It's just that usually the guy is fat while the girl is slim.
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u/JohnCasey3306 1d ago
As someone in a so-called "mixed weight" relationship, fuck off with this bullshit.
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u/SoggyContribution239 1d ago
I feel like what they really mean is are we ready to see a larger woman with a slender guy. We see larger men with slender women all the time in movies and on tv, but rarely do we see the opposite. Let me tell you, Iâm ready for it.
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u/Responsible_Ad_8628 2d ago
I'm almost twice my wife's weight. Of course, I'm 6'3" and she's 4'8"...
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u/sutroheights 1d ago
Sheâs also short. Canât believe this would ever happen in real life, the producers are so brave. /s
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u/Ravekat1 1d ago
Virgie Tovar sounds like someone who campaigns for free range hummus.
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u/Leftover_Bees 1d ago
Virgie Tovar is someone who thinks someone asking for a smaller piece of cake is being âfatphobic.â
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u/Dramatic_Bean 1d ago
It might not be a romance but I don't see any articles throwing shade at Mary and George Cooper from Sheldon. A married "mIxEd-wEiGhT" couple where the man is overweight đ¤¨
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u/Advanced_Drink_8536 1d ago
Why? Well, I am guessing itâs a little more than a little bit because of the unbelievably cruel things that people have said about this actress and her body.
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u/OneFish2Fish3 1d ago
They really treat being obese/overweight like itâs like being black or gay. Please point me to the fat people concentration camps and the fat people apartheid.
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u/DethBySnu-Snu 2d ago
So this "writer" has never seen The Simpsons, Family Guy, or The Flintstones?
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u/Relevant_Leather_476 1d ago
Back in the day day .. heavy women were sought for because the were thought of a healthy and strong ( to survive childbirth) As thinner/ skinny were considered to be sickly and weak ..
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u/IanTheMagus 1d ago
Gonna take a wild guess here and assume the guy who's like a foot and a half taller is the one that weighs more.
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u/Fluptupper 1d ago
"Mixed-weight"?
As a great professor once said: "I don't want to live on this planet any more."
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u/MrBubblepopper 1d ago
OHH but please make the man obese as fuck and the woman traditionally beautiful, would love to see the reaction from all the body positivity gals out there
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