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What even is this? ๐Ÿ‡ฒโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ฎโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡จโ€‹

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u/Professional-Hat-687 3d ago

I think fat acceptance has some good points sometimes, but it's an extremely weird needle to thread and so many in the movement seem unable to do anything except throw themselves headfirst into the Oppression Olympics.

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u/Juxtapo5ed 3d ago

It's less fat acceptance than it is about treating people with dignity regardless of body type. It's like people are tired of being ridiculed by strangers for simply trying to exist. It's not that anyone has to accept it, it's that everyone should realize it's none of their damn business and no one worth a grain of salt cares about their shitty opinions.

Let's be honest here though, it has everything to do with her being a woman because Hollywood has been pairing classically unattractive men with model-esque women for years.

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u/ggtffhhhjhg 3d ago

Over 70% of the US is overweight and close to 45% is obese and theyโ€™re still trying to play the victim card. Itโ€™s just pathetic at this point.

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u/govols_1618 3d ago

You seem lovely. Definitely not at all like a jerk. Not at all.

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u/silverboognish 3d ago

I agree. As a disabled and queer person who is on the smaller end of the fat spectrum, itโ€™s odd to me that some FA folks get super weird about intersectionality, as in not talking about it or acknowledging it at all. I have seen a similar issue in the feminist movement, particularly among white feminists who are middle class or higher.

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u/Professional-Hat-687 3d ago

I often pithily joke that no one hates gays quite as much as other gays. There are too many corners of the queer community that only want acceptance for their narrow slice and it's infuriating. Who do you think they're going to come for after they get rid of all the trans folk and the drag queens, Steve? We're next.

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u/Classic_Impact5195 3d ago

i guess i understand it a bit better when it comes to sexuality. The idea of creating a common identity with exactly the group they do not want to have sex with is countering the idea of creating a dating market based on sexual preference. Most gay bars in my area are still male or female. Rarely both. They move in seperate circles.

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u/Frizzlebee 3d ago

But we can walk and chew gum at the same time. The problem, as I understand it, is the idea that one group getting attention for its movement detracts from all others. And while a single person's attention is limited, society's is not. This doesn't have to be an either/or discussion, it can and should be a both discussion.

And unless the space we're discussing is purely physical and solely for the purpose of making romantic/sexual connections, icing out any other group seems like a weird choice to me. Movements only succeeded through coalition building. The Civil Rights movement had to get white people to buy in, despite having literally no skin in the game, no pun intended. I think a lot of people misunderstand that just "being right" isn't actually what gets these things done.

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u/Quazimojojojo 3d ago

Yeah, because it's so often driven in large part by mental health issues and shame/self loathing, and many people in that position lash out at others. Especially if someone is encouraging them to avoid shame by pretending it's pride.

See: the manosphere (it's mostly guys who genuinely have struggles and get belittled or ignored, and so often dismissively compared to minority groups. One of the best ways to perpetuate suffering is to make it a competition about who has things worse), the alt right (a lot of Americans really did get economically fucked and left behind and just want a change to the system. That's why Bernie become a public figure at the same time Trump did, and he very well might have won 2016 if he was the democratic nominee), and even to a lesser extent neurodivergent people (I'm ADHD and almost certainly autistic, and it is a continuous, active, effort to not become a supremacist, exclusively associate with neurodivergent people, and blame the neurotypical people for everything I went through at their hands, because neither of us knew how to handle the ways I'm different)

It's an incredibly easy trap to fall into because human brains do not naturally gravitate to shades of grey or situations with nobody to blame. It's physically uncomfortable to try to make sense of nuance, so a lot of people avoid it without even realizing.

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u/Merijeek2 3d ago

Welcome to the modern internet, where victimhood is the most valuable currency.