Yea but the man was heavier. It’s never an issue when the man is heavier, but god forbid the woman is bigger their little brains can’t comprehend why a man would love his partner no matter their weight.
I think that's a less impactful statement when the husband is fat as part of playing a fat-oaf character. As a chubby dude, I don't exactly see the king of queens as empowering or inspiring.
It's not meant to be empowering or inspiring though. It's the fact men can play just about any role and audiences are fine with it. But as soon as the genders are reversed, suddenly it's an issue.
And also, the "oaf" character, is always redeemed through heart and comedy. They're viewed as flawed but ultimately loveable characters. People think Homer is stupid but we love him anyways.
I think it's a poor comparison because everything I've heard about Penelope makes her out to be am empowering character. Whereas the fat man = dumb and lazy trope is definitely not.
I am aware that that's an actual issue, but I'll never forget that when I was a student in the US I've seen many jocks dating curvy girls, and I've never seen a fit girl dating a chubby guy or a guy with less muscles. Not once.
The only times I saw women preferred bigger men was when those men were earning more than them.
People made have made fun of this trope relentlessly since it appeared (in the 90s or earlier), saying “He could never get a woman like that in real life, this is ridiculous!”. Will people be mad when the same thing is said after the genders are reversed?
That usually happens in the movies only. Us men tend to be very visual and weight matters a lot. Biology. There's zero chance I would be with a fat chick, sorry. Although I guess there are some chubby chasers out there, but that's like 1 out of 100 or so.
If you want to talk biology, being skinny is biologically unsound and indicates lack of resources, hence why most pre-modern cultures attributed wealth and status to men and women who were heavier. Being lean is a new modern thing.
You're confuzing biology with social status. You are talking about kings being fat because they had the resources.
Biologically being thin (not skinny) is what is more healthy and sexually appealing. In terms of women attraction, thinny with curves is usually the most attractive for most men, myself included.
Significant extra weight indicates health problems for the most part and is very unattractive.
That is what your modern western sensea have been trained to view, it is not the same throughout history, culture, and/or geography. The reason skinny is considered more attractive today, is because it is harder to do. Eating healthy costs more, going to the gym costs more, having the time to eat healthy and exercise costs more. Being able to do that is a sign of success and wealth, reinforced by advertising and media. Marilyn Monroe is considered a sex symbol and extremely beautiful woman, but go look at a picture of her in a bikini. She has curves, because skinny wasn't considered ideal at that time.
Wrong again. Attraction has nothing to do with how hard something is to do. Nothing at all. A self made woman who becomes a millionaire is very hard to do, but unless she is visually very attractive and fit, the vast majority of men are not going to be attracted to her in the slightest.
Notice I never said skinny. I don't like skinny myself either. I like fit with curves. Most men do. Marilyn Monroe is the epitome of that and is very attractive. A fat chick is just not. Ever. Sorry.
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u/adamcmorrison 4d ago
Mixed weight romance