r/mildlyinteresting • u/FluidSynergy • 1d ago
The Only Difference I Can Find Between These Cans is That One Uses Monkey Labor Removed - Rule 6
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u/Sneezarrhea 1d ago
One is Milk, the other Cream
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u/06Wahoo 1d ago
That, and that you can only say for sure that one does not use monkey labor. The status of the other is indeterminate.
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u/wardude1 1d ago
The logo is not protected so pretty much worthless. Moreover all coconut farms use monkeys for the really tall threes. So it is impossible for the factory to know the monkey status on each coconut.
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u/SirJefferE 1d ago
Moreover all coconut farms use monkeys
I had never heard of monkey labour before so I looked it up after this comment.
Honestly, it looks like a great idea. I support monkey labour. I mean, as long as the monkeys are taken care of. I suspect the conditions aren't great for some of them.
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u/RoyBeer 1d ago
I had never heard of monkey labour before so I looked it up after this comment.
Rich monkeys do monkey business. Poor monkeys do monkey labour.
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u/Leopard__Messiah 1d ago
One of the candidates says it's those Chimps that are taking the Monkey jobs!
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u/banjodoctor 1d ago
Union!
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u/SirJefferE 1d ago
I'm out. Can't trust the leadership. That place is run by a bunch of monkeys.
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u/EarhornJones 1d ago
There are some varieties of tea that are regularly harvested by trained monkeys. At my local tea shop they have "monkey picked" right in the name of the product.
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u/Head_Trust_9140 1d ago
All monkeys live chained to a cage unless they’re on duty as they’re leashed then. They eat pretty well and is otherwise taken care of such as cleaned etc…
The only ones really taking care of monkeys as pets is monks, but they don’t use them for work. Those using monkeys for work take care of them as good as possible for the most part, but they’re always chained as they’re dangerous.
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u/CarltonSagot 1d ago
All monkeys live chained to a cage unless they’re on duty as they’re leashed then.
And there goes my happy.
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u/MinuetInUrsaMajor 1d ago
We can say for sure that none of them contain Guar. Whether or nor they contain Kagouti is indeterminate.
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u/SeekerOfSerenity 1d ago edited 1d ago
True, but I'd say the disclaimer is conspicuously absent from one of them.
Edit: 🙈🙉🙊
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u/justinlanewright 1d ago
If someone's willing to use money labor, they're probably willing to lie about using monkey labor.
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u/Leopard__Messiah 1d ago
Oh you just know they're beating the FUCK out of the monkeys then. Any product that doesn't specify their level of monkey abuse is automatically assumed to be on some monkey revenge type shit, even when it's not profitable.
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u/Alert-Humor-7872 1d ago
Monkey cream
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u/PaintOnMyTaint 1d ago
In the army we have a lubricant for heavy weapons. We call it monkey cum
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u/frank1934 1d ago
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u/soulteepee 1d ago
Crystal!! Oh I loved her so much- I miss her. I guess she turned 30 last month!
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u/darrellbear 1d ago
When I was a kid one of the local TV stations had a kid's show with a host called Captain Briny. He was some guy with a beard and a sailing captain's hat, he had a monkey always perched on his shoulder, a little squirrel monkey called Salty. My brother and I got to meet Captain Briny and Salty once, he fed the monkey bubble gum. Years later, when I was in high school, one day a guy was showing his GF something he had cupped in his hand. He turned to me and opened his hand, revealing a tiny little skull. He said, "Do you remember Salty the monkey? This was him!"
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u/soulteepee 1d ago
…..SCREAM
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u/darrellbear 1d ago
I swear that monkey looked unhealthy when we saw him, he was green. I always figured eating bubble gum did him in.
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u/nerankori 1d ago
Monkey scream
Monkey has to work in dream
Monkey work because monkey tame
But monkey wants to dream of fame
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u/nerankori 1d ago
Monkey,she wants to scream and bite
But rebellion is a futile fight
Every coconut the same
Her legs are strong but her heart is lame
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u/nerankori 1d ago
Monkey sleeps on silent sorrow
Monkey dreams of bleak tomorrow
Monkey stifles her plaintive scream
Monkey labor,monkey cream
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u/voxelghost 1d ago edited 1d ago
Turns out, you can't teach a monkey to milk a coconut, but you can teach them to cream
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u/Shkkzikxkaj 1d ago
Somebody just tell me which one is the stuff that comes out of the coconut naturally and which is the one that the monkeys deposit when they fuck the coconut.
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u/Harmaakettu 1d ago
The clear liquid is the actual coconut milk.
If you crack it open and it's white, I'm sorry but your coconut has been fucked by a monkey.
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u/Philks_85 1d ago
They obviously use monkey labour to churn the coconut milk into coconut cream..... it's on the label.
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u/YanicPolitik 1d ago
they have the monkeys working to make the cream 😩
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u/nota_is_useless 1d ago
Not sure if this was a joke or not. Monkeys are used to harvest coconuts. Saw a video from Thailand and thought we could use the same in India. Because coconut tree climbing is a dangerous profession.
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u/showers_with_grandpa 1d ago
Yeah as an American the idea of people being offended by monkeys being trained to pick coconuts has my eyes rolling. I looked it up and a single macaque can harvest over 1000 coconuts a day vs around 100 MAX for an individual human. And as you pointed out, very dangerous compared to an animal that literally evolved to climb trees.
Next we will have outrage over the exploitation of sheep dogs.
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u/WombatAnnihilator 1d ago
Milk vs cream?
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u/FluidSynergy 1d ago
I don't know how I didn't notice that That almost has me more confused, though.
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u/TooManySteves2 1d ago
Cream is thicker.
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u/activelyresting 1d ago
Coconut cream just has a higher fat content, they're basically the same thing, but the cream is richer and thicker. Same with dairy milk and cream :)
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u/2007pearce 1d ago
Personally I prefer milk for cooking but try both ways if you haven't. Make sure not to use monkey labour either way though, they're not the most hygienic for food prep
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u/Bluecat16 1d ago
Cream is great for curries since you can fry the curry paste/seasonings in it (the fat holds the flavor).
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u/Manovsteele 1d ago
A good coconut milk (i.e. Without added emulsifiers) should be separated in the tin though, so you can still take out just the pure fat and split that to fry the paste in, and then add the more liquid parts of the can after to simmer the curry.
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u/thatredlad 1d ago
The monkeys retrieve the coconuts. They don't work the production line.
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u/Comfortable_Oven_113 1d ago
Yeah, they do. I've been to the coconut farms, seen it with my own eyes. It's monkeys all the way down. Monkeys climb the trees. Monkeys drive the forklifts, run the grinders, operate the centrifuge. There's only one human there, a guy named Joe. His whole job is to stir creamer and sugar into the monkeys coffee, since they lack the opposable thumbs to grab the little stirrer sticks.
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u/pornographic_realism 1d ago
Joe is actually a multimillionaire from his early years commodity trading, he does what he does for the love of the job.
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u/Comfortable_Oven_113 1d ago
It makes sense that it's an unpaid position. The monkeys in charge of payroll are always clueless.
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u/thatredlad 1d ago
Don't let them see you telling people about Joe. He's meant to be a trade secret.
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u/AineLasagna 1d ago
This is a lie Joe tells to keep his job as monkeys do actually have opposable thumbs, it’s like their whole deal
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u/Esc777 1d ago
Putting good monkeys out of work.
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u/missionbeach 1d ago
Immigrants are taking monkey jobs!
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u/EvilTodd1970 1d ago
One label doesn’t deny using monkey labor.
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u/workMachine 1d ago
Now that I think about it, none of my groceries deny using monkey labor... I really need to rethink the kind of laundry detergent I buy... Those poor monkeys.
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u/BaggyHairyNips 1d ago
I didn't know that monkey labor was something I needed to worry about.
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u/whistleridge 1d ago
It’s less the labor that’s the issue than the way the monkeys are caged and mistreated:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/16/world/asia/hellofresh-thai-coconut-milk-monkeys.html
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u/GrowlitheGrowl 1d ago
PETA is not a reliable source.
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u/whistleridge 1d ago
I don’t disagree. But NYTimes and the Guardian are. PETA makes shit up, but they do due diligence. So there was something there.
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u/Plastic_Ad_2043 1d ago edited 1d ago
I first heard about it a few years ago when a supermarket I went to was being protested for carrying items harvested through monkey labor.
I remember laughing about it and thinking, "How could watching cool monkeys throw fruit out of trees be abuse?"
But they're for sure abusing the monkeys and it's a legit issue.
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u/aLobsterFest 1d ago
"I didn't notice one of the biggest words is different."
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u/matt12992 1d ago
I'm gonna be real I didn't notice either. Probably because it's 11:25pm and I'm tired lol
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u/TheRealBobaFett 1d ago
Likely because OP told you they were the same so you were expecting it. I also didn’t notice until I came to the comments
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u/soulteepee 1d ago
I’m sorry WHAT
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u/tlsnine 1d ago
Exactly! Who tf is here to answer the important effing question like wtf is “monkey labor”?
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u/coulsonsrobohand 1d ago
Apparently there were some coconut farmers in Thailand (?) abusing monkeys to retrieve the coconuts. TIL
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u/DutchMitchell 1d ago
Some? Almost ALL
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u/coulsonsrobohand 1d ago
On one hand, my first instinct is to be horrified. On the other hand…..I’m not surprised as I should be
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u/Carvj94 1d ago
Worst part is that it'd cost them barely anything extra to treat them nicely. Shit just build em some bunk beads and give them decent meals. Apparently basically all primates LOVE figit toys and those are dirt cheap from China. Hell abusing the monkeys probably costs them more than being nice since they probably need to hire more humans to handle them than would otherwise be needed.
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u/NorthernerWuwu 1d ago
I mean, they are really good at it.
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u/DutchMitchell 1d ago
Humans are also really good at exploiting others for their own gain
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u/Additional_Meeting_2 1d ago
If the monkeys were fed and treated tell they would just think it’s fun. Like dogs with jobs. The issue is often they aren’t very well treated
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u/tlsnine 1d ago
Like that’s some hybrid, super villain bullshit
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u/PowderEagle_1894 1d ago
I mean at least they're not using orangutan as sex slaves
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u/DeveloperBRdotnet 1d ago
I will stop my curiosity right here.
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u/Effehezepe 1d ago
A wise decision. I've read about the Orangutan sex slave incident, an oh boy, that's the kind of thing that cannot be unread. (The Orangutan is doing fine now though)
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u/Reckless_Waifu 1d ago
Great now the monkeys are unemployed.
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u/davidcwilliams 1d ago
I mean, no they weren’t being paid fairly, but now they’re not being paid at all.
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u/Spczippo 1d ago
Ok this is the third post I have seen about coconut milk.... what the fuxk is Guar?
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u/badchriss 1d ago
Never heard of that and looked it up....first thought "awww, them's working like little humans"...then thought, hm something tells me this ain't right. Yeah, it's a fucked up business that involves mistreatment and torturing animals. Same with that one coffee. Makes me wonder, why does that company advertises it that it uses monkeys when everyone come to the conclusion that this is an absolutely rotten thing?
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u/Mad_Boobies 1d ago
In my experience monkey labour = more flavour
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u/eggsaladrecipesndwch 1d ago
Is coconut cream the same as cream of coconut? I wanted to make pina coladas but this stuff here is all I could find. Please forgive my ignorance
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u/Esc777 1d ago
No Cream of coconut is basically coconut flavored syrup. Your drink will be remarkably less sweet and full of thick particles of fat that won’t dissolve if you use coconut cream.
Cream of coconut is one of those 50s products made for tiki drinks. BevMo or online.
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u/Jasmirris 1d ago
I would say cream of coconut is more like sweetened condensed milk. It's better for drinks and desserts.
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u/nerfherder998 1d ago
If you search the nutritional labels, you’ll find the same ingredients but the coconut milk has slightly fewer calories. The “milk” has 140 cal/80ml, the “cream” has 60 cal/30ml, which would work out to 160 cal/80ml.
TL;DR: same coconuts, more water.
You might want to check expiration dates on those cans. Native Forest started claiming “Monkey Free Plus” status for all of their coconut products in August of last year. My guess is more recent cans of either product will have that certification logo.
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u/ProveISaidIt 1d ago
Is there a difference between coconut milk and coconut cream? A difference in fat content like cows milk and cream?
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u/Adrian_F 1d ago
Is animal labor a bad thing per se? What about eg. pigs and dogs to find truffles. Or dogs that are used in all sorts of ways from drug sniffing to guiding the blind. I never even considered this could be cruelty.
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u/TanteRock 1d ago
It's mostly the coconuts from Thailand, that are harvest by monkeys.The way this monkeys are trained and treated is very cruel. They normaly live in big groups/families in the wild and are caged and/or on a chain all alone after they are captured. https://www.greenmemag.com/animals/the-hidden-cost-of-coconut-monkey-labor-in-thailand/
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u/MeeksMoniker 1d ago
Someone sued them because humans are Primates, therefore monkeys, so it's false advertising.
That or it's now farmed using ai and machines.
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u/Surraucus 1d ago
Must use monkeys for the churning process go turn from milk to cream, I'm thinking to push a giant mixing wheel
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u/ExampleMediocre6716 1d ago
Doesn't contain Guar, doesn't use monkey labor.
Because now we use gelatin made from the bones of unemployed monkeys!
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u/Super_Hans69 1d ago
It's most likely what's called a "soft" change to the product I.e the artwork ( as seen by the claim of no monkey labour). In this case the barcode (EAN) of each SKU is the same but the internal code that the manufacturer uses are different.
When it's a "hard" change that then means new EAN number as something fundamentally changed I.e volume of content, ingredients etc.
These changes are very common in FMCG. Good example is coca cola 500ml around Christmas time. Same product but artwork is different and can sometimes result in 2 different drinks on the shelf.
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u/wizzard419 1d ago
I mean... humans are primates so this means they have robots making the milk.
It also may be one has an outdated label design.
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u/hellhobbit99 1d ago
Why would I not chose the one harvested by monkeys?! Insane suggestion
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u/Fickle-Classroom 1d ago
The absence of a monkey labour sticker doesn’t mean it uses monkey labour. It means it doesn’t have a label to say it doesn’t.
Someone in marketing has decided this is an important fact to start including on the label, or perhaps now they use a different supplier and their previous one did. You can’t know that from the absence of a label.
They’re also different products.
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u/SomeRandomSkitarii 1d ago
If I had a nickel for every post on this sub today with that coconut milk can…
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u/hatedispenser 1d ago
Native Forest brand huh. labeling seems super smart and mentions no guar gum?! most people in america buying coconut milk would a) just buy Thai brand b) at most differentiate between full fat and Lite.
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