r/Invincible • u/llMadmanll • Mar 25 '24
If Viltrumites can breed with anything, then why didn't they fuck these guys? COMIC SPOILERS
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u/glen2001 Atom Eve Mar 25 '24
Bro I don’t think they would try to make love with those. I think they would just try to kill the viltrimite if they tried making love
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u/llMadmanll Mar 25 '24
Kinky
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u/tarentale Mar 25 '24
“HOW DARE YOU!!!!!?????!?!!!!”
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u/Ponders0 Mar 26 '24
Bro was so offended in that scene lol. When you're getting cut in half and turned to paste on a regular basis, the hyperspeed kid who can withstand a week in space and getting pummeled to dust isn't that bad of an alternative option.
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u/RedditAcccount2798 Mar 25 '24
Wait Viltrumites can breed with anything? How? So anything they fuck can make it pregnant or a female Viltrumite pregnant?
Could they fuck a Trex?
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u/llMadmanll Mar 25 '24
Unironically, theoretically, yes, as long as they are compatible enough in biology.
A T. Rex probably isn't, unless I missed out some facts on bird reproduction.
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u/RedditAcccount2798 Mar 25 '24
Could they breed with a whale or a shark? Imagine a Viltrumite shark, lol
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u/Deusexanimo713 The Mauler Twins Mar 25 '24
Images version of King Shark from DC. Just a massive shark man except this one can fly and probably has a mustache somehow
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u/pravis Mar 25 '24
Unironically, theoretically, yes, as long as they are compatible enough in biology.
If insects are compatible enough then I'm willing to bet anything is.
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u/RogueR34P3R Mar 25 '24
Let's not forget Nolan fucked a bug and had a kid. I think a T-Rex child is entirely plausible lol
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u/BigNorseWolf Robot Mar 25 '24
isn't that a turn on for a viltrumite?
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u/glen2001 Atom Eve Mar 25 '24
To have their penis and or face bitten off is a turn on? 💀
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u/Otrada Mar 25 '24
I wouldn't put it above the viltrumites to go to some rather insane lengths to get the deed done anyways.
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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber Mar 25 '24
How would they breed with them? They can't get close enough to them without the ragnars ripping a hole in their flesh.
Viltrumites are conquerors. They take over entire planets and use what's left of the population as slaves. They also have rules. They are only allowed to breed with "genetically similar species. Like humans."
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u/ADOVE4F Mar 25 '24
That's why Oliver's birth was forbidden for Nolan. Until Freddie Mercury said otherwise
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u/Training-Dog5678 Mar 25 '24
Same way we breed horses.
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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber Mar 25 '24
You can't tame a ragnar. But if you have ideas on how to keep one still long enough for a Viltrumite to put his seed in one (or vice versa for a female), I'm all ears.
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u/Dazzling_Can_3425 Mar 25 '24
Has anyone ever actually tried to tame a Ragnar tho?
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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber Mar 25 '24
No. But some guy thinks they'd be perfect for having sex 🤔. I needed this comic relief.
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u/PlzSendCDKeysNBoobs Mar 26 '24
Didn't the girl that Battle Beast hooks up with have them as pets? she controlled them somehow
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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber Mar 26 '24
It would make sense. She is an intelligent beast and more similar to rognarrs than Viltrumites are.
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u/Arbiter008 Nolan Grayson Mar 25 '24
It's plenty possible to just harvest the gonads of a male one or maybe disable a female ragnarr as a sort of incubator.
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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber Mar 25 '24
Please explain how you would go about disabling a single female ragnar, then harvest her eggs. They don't seem to go on long walks by themselves.
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u/goldendarren Mar 26 '24
Ok hear me out, 4 hold each limb while 1 chosen one gets to breed. Unbeatable baby.
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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber Mar 26 '24
I love the enthusiasm. Have I been saying the name wrong? In the comic book, they are called Rognarrs. Anyhoo.... They run in packs. They can fly. It would take the strongest Viltrumite warriors to capture a single one. The beast would be able to shake them off in your scenario.
Yet Thragg was able to capture at least 4, put them in chains, then used them as weapons (think bolas).
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u/jadenbgoat Mar 26 '24
If they steal one and milk it and pregnante a girl the offspring would be crazy(if compatible)
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u/EveningWolf2009 Mar 25 '24
Cause they don't have a ragnussy
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u/llMadmanll Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
No one looked for it tho
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u/PolitelySelective Mar 25 '24
not even Freddie?
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u/ItsFoxyGamer Mar 25 '24
would you fuck a giant reptilian that doesn't and can't feel empathy and could rip you in half
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u/samsab Mar 25 '24
Yes next question
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u/MKIncendio Mar 25 '24
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u/MKIncendio Mar 25 '24
Is the desired way of life an integrated coexistence relegated to Man and Reptile together?
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u/charlesleecartman Mark from Burger Mart Mar 25 '24 edited Mar 25 '24
Or worse, they could rip off your dick.
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u/xkise Mar 25 '24
can't feel empathy
OG omni-man also can't, win-win
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u/LexeComplexe Mar 25 '24
OG? You mean the comics? Because uh, if you think he's incapable of empathy, you haven't read it.
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u/Freddycipher Mar 25 '24
A couple of possible reasons why
Any viltrumite could be torn apart in the process or severely injured.
the Ragnar don’t really got compatible reproductive organs
they’re kind of ugly
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u/UpstateJoe Mark Grayson Mar 25 '24
If they are reptilian, they have would have a cloaca, which would not be so compatible with mammal parts.
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u/Cheapskate-DM Mar 25 '24
Counterpoint: 🪲
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u/VillianKing Mar 25 '24
Omni-man is a weird dude, lol
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u/filthybootyeater6969 Mar 25 '24
Mark: You left mom.
Nolan: I got you a new mom.
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u/sonsargon13 Mar 25 '24
Thraxussy just hits different
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u/ahen404 Mar 25 '24
Thragg knew it was too legit to quit. He hit it 10 thousand times, still wasn't enough. Dude was thristin hard
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u/Tigerphobia Mar 25 '24
To be fair, the Thraxans do appear to be mammals. They are humanoid and have mammaries, they potentially diverged from a common ancestor of humans and viltrumites. I cannot begin to justify any science behind that, but hey, can you blame Nolan for trying?
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u/SkGuarnieri Mar 25 '24
Yeah, it's kinda like whales.
Might look like a fish, but that doesn't mean it is a fish
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Mar 25 '24
Wait so could omni reproduce with a whale?
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u/SkGuarnieri Mar 25 '24
Not necessarily and probably not, the genes still have to be compatible.
Think of it like this: Ligers are a thing, but a half-breed between a human and an ape isn't. We are too far removed from our closest relatives for that to happen and viltrumites are probably in the same position (albeit they likely match a lot more species than humans would)
Edti: And to add to the hybrid parts, infertility is a big issue. Viltrumites are trying to save themselves from extinction, so mating with things that are compatible but would just be infertile afterwards isn't that high on the priority list (But they'll still do it for practical reasons if they're pushed hard enough)
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u/ZettoVii Mar 25 '24
Counterpoint on the gene thing, Viltrumites are genetically engineered with something called "smart atoms" that basically corrects any genetical defects.
It's part of the reason for why Viltrumite hybrids become more pure blooded the older they get: the smart atoms beocmes more efficient in preserving and enhancing that side of their bloodline.
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u/Social_Confusion Dinosarus's Biggest Simp Mar 25 '24
The Ragnussy would literally chop off that Viltrenis like a steel enforced blender
It ain't worth it man
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u/BigNorseWolf Robot Mar 25 '24
I must try.. or I have not truly lived- French Mustache Viltrumite guy.
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u/Chaoticdab Mar 25 '24
Wasnt there a rule that viltrumites can only bread with similar looking species to them ? Thats why they were so disgusted when they saw oliver
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u/SkGuarnieri Mar 25 '24
They are all eugenists! Even before inter-species reproduction came up, they were all about keeping the blood pure and killing their weak
They are only "okay" with reproducing with humans because the offspring is as close as you get to pure viltrumites AND they don't really have a better option
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u/Ziggurat1000 Titan Mar 25 '24
If a grizzly bear attacked you, would your first instinct be to make love to it?
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u/llMadmanll Mar 25 '24
Yes
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u/Chicken_Mc_Thuggets The trashbag Mark threw into space Mar 25 '24
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u/BigNorseWolf Robot Mar 25 '24
To be fair singing Ed shirren to a bear is not the worst survival strategy.
Either that or my singing is terrible.
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u/Yentup1998 Mar 25 '24
Well, not only do those things come from - what I imagine is - Space Australia, Viltrumites are usually meant to breed with species biologically similar to their own as a means of keeping the bloodline more pure, which is why Mark's half-brother is seen as an abomination.
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u/swizzl73 Mar 25 '24
Viltrumites aren’t strong enough to get that ragnussy before the ragnussy fights back, simple as.
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u/OmniMushroom Mar 25 '24
Maybe a Viltrumite taking down and mating with a Rognarr is the reason the whole 'only mate with genetically similar species' rule exists
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u/Scrimmybinguscat Mar 25 '24
There are logistical reasons why this would be damn near impossible, but also cultural issues considering the two cultures we're looking at.
Let's say some miracle happens and two uncharacteristically accepting members of each species met one another and fell in love...
Well, the resulting child probably look like something like a viltrumite with red skin and yellow eyes, and they would also happen to be apocalyptically strong.
Viltrumites and Rognarrs likely get their powers from different sources. We know Viltrumites make use of smart atoms in their physical structure, and Rognarrs might be, but for all we know, Rognarrs might just be made of stronger stuff.
So if you put them together, you could potentially come away with an entity twice as strong as an ordinary Rognarr or Viltrumite.
That's just my speculation.
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u/shaser0 Mar 25 '24
I remembered that the Rognarrs were strong because the gravity on their planet was very strong. How are they made might be a reason why.
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u/Lost_Afropick Mar 25 '24
They're species supremacists.
You saw the disgusted response from the other Viltrumites after learning Omniman had bred with the bug people.
I reckon they only breed with similar species
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u/PuzzleheadedPop47 Mar 25 '24
Look at the pic, u think they wanna breed? Lmao, also they mentioned they specifically wanted humans like on earth as they are most similar to viltrumites. They of course end up getting desperate and do what Nolan did on that one planet with the bugs. Also thats another reason they did not attack earth straight up, they sent nolan to slowly do it in a more “peaceful” way that would not involve them killing their future wifes and such.
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u/ZeroCharistmas Mar 25 '24
I'm suddenly a lot more comfortable with the fact that a flying, talking dog is not something that Invincible's universe has actually seen.
We know how Nolan is about pets...
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u/Jefrejtor Mar 25 '24
Logistical answers aside - despite their humanoid form, these things are basically animals. Even if Viltrumite and Ragnarr DNA could somehow mix well enough to produce a healthy baby, that thing is still gonna make Conquest look mentally stable. Not exactly "purity-worshipping empire" material.
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u/varlathor Mar 25 '24
If they were successful they may cause their own demise. If they bred enough of them they might look at viltrumites as inferior and kill them all. Like how people say true AI might kill all humans
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u/Lazereye57 Robot Mar 25 '24
Simple, it is not worth the effort.
It could potentially cost several Viltrumite lives to capture, restrain and breed with a single ragnar with no guarantee that the offspring is better/stronger than what they could get from other species.
Not to mention that the offspring could potentially inherit the mindless rage of the ragnar making him/her little better than an animal that needs to be put down for both its own sake and for the ones around it.
The purpose is after all to repopulate the Viltrumite race so potentially exchanging 8-12 Viltrumite lives for 1 potentially stronger Viltrumite that might be a failure is not the best deal.
But I would be interested in Battlebeasts race though since they are an actually intelligent species with a lot of potential.
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u/-BakiHanma The Viltrumites Mar 25 '24
Imagine they captured, restrained and had their way with these things…. They would be insanely strong.
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u/JmLong88 STAND READY FOR MY ARRIVAL, WORM! Mar 25 '24
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u/NinjanicWhiskey9 Mar 25 '24
Viltrumites are also extremely racist. Anything species that doesn’t match viltrumite appearance is considered an abomination
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u/melodic_vagabond Mar 25 '24
I thought the Viltrum empire only let them breed with species that were similar to them appearance wise? Also I get the impression those things would rip off a Weiner in a heartbeat.
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u/redditAPsucks Mar 25 '24
A lot of people focusing on the wrong things here. I think op is wondering if this space-faring conquerer race could interbreed with ragnar, why didnt they overcome the difficulties, and unappealingness to make it happen. I think op knows the dangers, and the fucked upness involved in the scenario.
I think the answer is they maybe CANT interbreed with EVERYTHING, they are maybe worried about creating a threat to themselves, and even if the hybrid made the ultimate warrior, itd DEFINITELY spit in the face of their species’ superiority complex
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u/wobimi3131 Mar 26 '24
I'll do you one better: Allen the Alien and a female Viltrumite. Perfect baby.
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u/Trash_Emperor Mar 26 '24
I don't buy the argument that they're too vicious, obviously one could be caught and bred. I think the problem is that they're so powerful and vicious, that there is a risk that the whole "Viltrumite DNA takes over" bullshit wouldn't work, and you'd have an ultra-powerful, ultra-vicious Viltrumite on your hands that can't be contained and could even pose a danger to the empire if it produced more offspring or was capable of leading those things.
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u/Zer0_l1f3 Spawn Mar 25 '24
Ragnar seem to be 1) more reptilian and 2) extremely feral. So this would be like either fucking a crocodile or a grizzly bear. Both are bad options and both will not produce off spring for different reasons
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u/Dragonbarry22 Rex Splode Mar 25 '24
What think this post through op and you'd probably find the answer
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u/ErandurVane Mar 25 '24
So idk if they'd be genetically compatible but the Ragnars are almost definitely not interested in breeding with Viltrumites. I'm also not certain there'd be a benefit to it? We know their strength comes from their planet's insane gravity and we have no idea how strong they are genetically. Like, Mark can go toe to toe with a Ragnar despite being born on Earth, how strong would a Ragnar be if it was raised on Earth. Alternatively how strong would a Viltrumite be if it was raised on their planet?
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u/ScorchedConvict Mar 25 '24
That picture right there provides the answer.
Those things are feral and can kill a Viltrumite.