r/Invincible • u/not_brayden13 • Mar 21 '24
Anyone else annoyed they changed this? COMIC SPOILERS
Amazon primes doesn’t allow screenshots so I’ll just use this basic pic, but is anyone else annoyed Rae survived? Because if she survives, that means everyone survived the battle. Let at least 1 death from that fight be permanent.
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u/Serious-Sea1037 Comic Fan Mar 21 '24
Yeah it kinda annoyed me too, I thought those disturbing sound effects were her last moments. How would you even survive that?
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u/polishboi_2137 Shrinking Rae Mar 21 '24
How would you even survive that?
By shrinking once you realize you're fucked and can't blow up the enemy from the inside
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u/Karolus2001 Mar 21 '24
Then you fall into superhuman digestive system both crushed and chewed up. Both outcomes should be 100% lethal, but if you don't chicken out you might have a shoot at asphyxiating him.
I assume she was chewed up badly, because otherwise why not just climb your way to his lungs or some other bamboozling.
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u/AllinForBadgers Mar 21 '24
Digestion is slow. You’d be fine and not “crushed up?” for a time. The real killer is there’s no breathable air in there.
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u/Numerous_Witness_345 Mar 21 '24
Maybe being a tiny person would greatly reduce oxygen demands.
She was in there for a few minutes, tops. Maybe unconscious, which would reduce oxygen need further.
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u/Leviathon6348 Mar 21 '24
Well we don’t really know how much time passed between Rex getting blapped and waking up again. unless I was just to flabbergasted and high to notice any clock or time indication lol
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u/CoolJoshido Mar 21 '24
he’s a snake super hybrid not a regular human
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u/MobileSeparate398 Mar 21 '24
Digestion is slow in all animals, especially reptiles which are cold blooded. Stomach acid may cause skin burns but it's not turning her to goo in 10 minutes
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u/Pokermans06 Mar 22 '24
Aren’t Komodo dragons known for having really strong digestive systems though?
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u/MobileSeparate398 Mar 22 '24
Takes them over a day on ideal conditions to digest food that's sitting still. 5 days if it's cold.
What I meant is they don't use additional methods to speed up digestion like internal muscles that mix the food up or even break it down further.
And the point stands that he couldn't digest her in the 10-ish minutes she was inside him. Most of her was covered in clothing which must be resistant to some degree, then skin would take much longer than the flight lasted for due to oils and the tough outer layers.
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u/Alocalskinwalker420 Battle Beast Mar 21 '24
Bingo, they’ll say that he has breathable air in his body.
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u/xstormaggedonx War Woman Mar 21 '24
Climbing her way to his lungs is probably what she did. She'd have to be somewhere in his torso rather than his head/neck to survive Rex's explosion
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u/Wannabeartist9974 Mar 21 '24
I find it hilarious how everyone thinks the acid instantly burned her up, digestion is slow fellas.
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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber Mar 21 '24
I actually called this scenario on another post a few days ago. I knew once Komodo's head was blown off, that Shrinking Rae was going to exit through the hole, having shrunk down when she couldn't break through. I hate that Kate is gone, but I will hold out hope that one copy (or the original) is out there somewhere.
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u/Pearl-Internal81 Savage Dragon Mar 21 '24
I hate that Kate is gone…
I take it you haven’t read the comics?
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u/geeker390 Pentagon - Parking in Rear Mar 21 '24
Hey be careful with how you format talks about the comics. "I hate that Kate is gone" followed by spoiler text insinuates more than I think you realized when you typed it
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u/Mistmade Mar 21 '24
This is a cominc spoiler threat, if anyone reads this without having read the comics its only their own fault.
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u/geeker390 Pentagon - Parking in Rear Mar 21 '24
I mean, it's labeled as show spoiler.
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u/Mistmade Mar 21 '24
When I scroll to the top it reads comic spoilers for me. Maybe it got changed along the way?
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u/geeker390 Pentagon - Parking in Rear Mar 21 '24
Huh. That's really odd. You are correct, though. If it said comic spoilers, we wouldn't need to spoiler tag it.
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u/InvinciblePLUSAmber Mar 21 '24
I did!! But you know they always try to change things up in the show. That's all I meant.
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u/ZenOkami Mar 21 '24
I'm willing to bet they won't kill her until after her brother gets properly introduced, at the very least. Plus, she's supposed to start a family with Immortal, which will serve as kind of a foil for Mark and Eve
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u/Prudent_Effect6939 Allen the Alien Mar 21 '24
I mean watching the show, theres no reason I should expect them to stick to comics
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u/TakeTheSlabb Mar 21 '24
There…there were large crushing noises when he chewed. She wouldn’t come out the same.
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u/don2171 Mar 21 '24
Given that getting smacked while tiny doesn't obliterate her like the bug size she is it's safe to say she would be exceptionally durable. Could easily have the durability of a much larger person given how the ability works.
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u/NotAChefJustACook Run the Twins Mar 21 '24
It was a hell of a way to die, they should’ve kept it that way
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u/Belphegorkingofsloth Mar 21 '24
IRL anatomy there aren't any strong muscles to squish your esophagus/airpipe they just move food up and down. She was choking on both her and Komdos blood so drowning was a bigger threat there
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u/not_brayden13 Mar 21 '24
You shouldn’t be able to
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u/Radialpuddle Mar 21 '24
Nothing in this show is something anyone should be able to do.
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u/approveddust698 Mar 21 '24
If mark was shrunk he definitely would survive. The thing is the show never showed us that Rae would have the capability to. Let’s say during a training scene or something she was thrown into a wall or something while she was shrunk and the wall cracked and she was dazed, We would know that she’s tougher when she’s small.
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u/milkyginger Mar 21 '24
We didn't know Rex could survive getting shot in the head till he did. Do we need a scene of someone else shooting him in the head so we'd know ahead of time?
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u/JustBiz_Null Pentagon - Parking in Rear Mar 21 '24
There are cases of people surviving that in real life tho
Perhaps the comic did it a little better since there Rex actually hits him to throw his aim off
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u/milkyginger Mar 21 '24
https://youtu.be/Ny5WNvZFGnA?t=127
Here is Rae thrown through a wall like OP wanted to see.
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u/GreatKnightJ Shrinking Rae Mar 21 '24
She already survived being backhanded in the face by Battle Beast, I feel like that counts for something.
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u/easymmkay120 Mar 22 '24
That counts for way more than Salamender (who also swats her like a fly in this very fight) and Komodo Dragon's feat.
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u/easymmkay120 Mar 22 '24
She is literally slapped by Salamander in this fight and she is slapped fucking hard. That's right before she digs into his eyeball.
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Mar 21 '24
You shouldn't be able to survive being shot in the head or being disemboweled + having your arms torn off + getting punched so hard your eye comes out either lol, this is where you draw the line?
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u/don2171 Mar 21 '24
To be fair plenty of people survive headshots some even continue fighting through them. A supposedly super human person could easily have a low caliber bounce of there skull If the angle is right. We already have the man that had a rod blast through his head and he turned himself into a freak show to make money of that incident
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u/Parkwaydrive777 Mar 21 '24
Anecdotal, but to emphasize... my Uncle was shot in the head. Clean through the upper left lobe.
He had massive surgery, long recovery (had to "relearn" things), all that... but he lived without any significant brain damage or any long term effects, except the occasional migraine-like headaches. But from the outside perspective it's unnoticeable it ever happened. Still alive in his late 50s (happened when he was like early 30s)
To this day I don't get how he even managed to survive, but the body can be quite insane with recovery on a unique basis if treated quickly enough. There's a ton of insane medical stories (as you stated) that break much of what ought to be possible.
And this is all without the fantasy "high tech" Invincible medical treatments. Just saying.
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u/Cautious-Affect7907 Mar 21 '24
And even if she wasn’t fully crushed, she had probably very little air. She should’ve suffocated.
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u/HolyCadaver Mar 22 '24
I would like to point out his head was blown off a minute or so after, creating an airway.
A minute or so without oxygen isn't too hard (ignoring injuries of course, but with their level of technology it isn't too unreasonable to think she could be recovered)
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u/Nerx Robot Mar 21 '24
maybe its delayed
With levy there are lots of more opportunities for doom
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u/TheAnimeJunkie Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
Why would they have her fake killed just to being her back and kill her again? This decision really dosent make much sense and loses the audience when death dosent feel like it has any impact if characters are just going to keep coming back.
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u/Nerx Robot Mar 21 '24
For special moments or to highlight really dangerous opps
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u/TheAnimeJunkie Mar 21 '24
That was a special moment, it was Rex’s moment to shine and highlights the danger these Hero’s out themselves in to save the world. If everyone in that fight survives, what were the stakes then? Why fake out all of their deaths only to lose audience trust in the future?
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u/WinterBeetles Mar 21 '24
I mean they famously did this with Glenn on the walking dead in his last season lol.
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u/not_brayden13 Mar 21 '24
Spoilers: we know Kate survived due to her 0 clone, so if Rae lives, that means no deaths that entire fight, meaning the point of the fight, showing that even trained superhero’s aren’t safe, is pointless
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u/dontspeaksoftly Mar 21 '24
I agree with you here. I think there will be consequences for Rae, I don't think she's going to be the same or rejoin the fight.
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u/Orestruto Mar 21 '24
They have the trauma from the near death experience
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u/solrac137 Mar 21 '24
Also I might be wrong, but her body under the bed looked short, so maybe she lost her legs ?
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u/MaduroAhmetKaya Mar 21 '24
maybe she couldn't stay conscious to grow fully so it is her 3/4 length
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u/Pleasant-Discussion Mar 21 '24
Exactly. Mark barely surviving omniman didn’t lose all the weight of worrying about the hero just because he didn’t die. Stakes are not a binary association with death. Death is needed in the story at some point sure, but the battle is still meaningful with survivors scraping by, I mean look how much people love what that battle did for Rex. It clearly had stakes for him.
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u/acrazyguy Green Ghost Mar 22 '24
I’m so excited that Rex’s character arc is getting to the good part
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u/RX0Invincible Omni-Drip Mar 21 '24
They’ve already made that point at the end of the very first episode and will make that point again sometime in the future. Not sure why it’s so important for this particular fight to reiterate it.
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u/megrimlock88 Mar 21 '24
I mean it’s a big moment for Rex as well losing two people who he considered friends and it breaks the impression that the new guardians of the globe are any more permanent a fixture in the story than the original who got murdered by Omni man
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u/MR-Vinmu Martian Astronaut Mar 21 '24
I always thought the moral here was that he needed to be a stronger person to protect his friends, that moral still comes across here, he still learns that he has a long way to go, he was barely able to protect his friends in this fight, it was literally a save by the bell, he will still learn to develop and better himself so that when faced with another scenario like this, he’ll be able to protect them.
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u/geeker390 Pentagon - Parking in Rear Mar 21 '24
To be fair, something to that magnitude hasn't happened to our main characters yet. It happened to the guardians, but we only knew them for one episode
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u/TastefulMaple Spider-Man Mar 21 '24
I mean that entire fight proved they weren’t safe, Rex was lucky to be alive, he got out of that fight barely intact. If that device Rudy built didn’t work a second time, the sequids would’ve had both Rudy and Eve under their control, invincible got super lucky it had a little juice left.
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u/Nirast25 The Flaxans Mar 21 '24
Well, you just saved me from making a Reddit post about how Kate should be the one person to survived that whole thing, since she can just make a clone and have it hide somewhere.
To your actual post, I think the point still comes across. Yes, they all survived, but two of them are probably gonna have permanent injuries and it still show how dangerous the job is.
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u/DrRadon Comic Fan Mar 21 '24
Do we know? Maybe they write her of the show if others get to stay.
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u/LMD_DAISY Shrinking Rae Mar 21 '24
There many characters from comics who s not gonna make it into show due copyright. Theeir story could recycle to the Rae’s
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u/JustBiz_Null Pentagon - Parking in Rear Mar 21 '24
I don't see Rae lasting much against an evil Invincible or The Order lol, I just don't see the point of bringing her back
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u/AllCity_King Mar 21 '24
It's a change I'm going to let them develop before I get too critical of it. A lot of people were talking about how this character had no development and really just existed to give the guardians another body on the roster. Then she "dies" and everyone realizes they never wanted to see her go through something like that, they realize they care, to an extent.
Keeping her alive gives the show an opportunity to take those newfound feelings in the audience and run with it. You can develop this character now, you can give her something to do, and give the fans that wanted more a reason to care. How they take this opportunity and commit to it is what I'll be really focusing on. If they give this character more depth than they ever had in the comic, I'm totally fine with this decision. If she just falls back to the background, then yeah, it was a very big mistake.
But we'll have to see.
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u/geeker390 Pentagon - Parking in Rear Mar 21 '24
Greatly agreed. The comic counterpart of Rae was pretty much just as you were describing. Just another body for the guardians.
Kirkman said he was using the show to refine the story. Now is his opportunity to show that to us.
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u/MehrunesDago Titan Mar 21 '24
He shouldn't have tripled down on Ray's death scene and made it 10 times less survivable and brutal then, as it stands now it's just a "Really? You're actually serious rn?"
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u/gekkoO0 Mar 21 '24
Totally agree. Let these people cook before judging.
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u/AllCity_King Mar 21 '24
Absolutely!
I understand people's criticism and argument that Rae's survival removes stakes, and I do agree to an extent.
BUT you could also make the argument that stakes mean nothing when they only apply to side characters with 4 lines of dialogue. I hope the show continues to find a healthy combination of these two ideas, I have faith it will.
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u/The_Throwback_King Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
Yeah, it's like, Rae was so little of her own character in Season 1 and Season 2A. That her living or die really didn't "ruin" anything.
IIRC, she was the only member of the Guardians 2.0 to not receive like any focus. Rex had her stuff with Eve, Dupla-Kate had the Teen Team history, Robot/Rudy had the Mauler-"Build a New Body" Mystery/Storyline, Monster Girl had her curse subplot and both her and Black Samson were part of that recovery group post Battle Beast. Plus BS also was a member of the OG Guardians, which had some narrative juice there.
Rae was just there. A nice design, and I always love a good Grey Griffin voice, but there was nothing more to her.
Having her live through the Komodo attack gives the opportunity for some depth to her character; some reason for her inclusions then just being some roster fill.
Like, u/AllCity_King said, I'm willing to overlook the retcon IF they do something cool or narratively interesting with the move. Make it worth making the change for.
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u/Panthera2k1 You, Dad. I'd still have you. Mar 21 '24
Take good. Me steal.
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u/TableHockey31313 Robot Mar 21 '24
Why say many word when take many good word of person easier? Me like
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u/BlavCloud Mar 21 '24
I think/hope this decision not to kill Rae will lead to her at least retiring. Like she'll have so much menta trauma from nearly dying that she'll just retire from superheroing. Effectively being "dead" because she won't be apart of anything going foward. If not then the whole battle significantly loses it's impact if everyone ends up surviving.
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u/Medic7802 Mar 21 '24
I bet a few characters will stay alive longer since Kirkman doesn't have rights to all the other characters for the show
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Mar 22 '24 edited Apr 20 '24
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u/ShiguruiX Mar 22 '24
Witchblade, Savage Dragon and Jackie Estacado (The Darkness) also show up iirc
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u/polishboi_2137 Shrinking Rae Mar 21 '24
No because Rae is the best character in the series (ignore the fact she had 2.5 lines and no CD she's the best character)
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u/not_brayden13 Mar 21 '24
Yea but it makes the fight pointless
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u/polishboi_2137 Shrinking Rae Mar 21 '24
Yea but counter argument. Hot character
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u/Oberon_Swanson Mar 21 '24
i don't think it's pointless. Rex and her will have had character growth. We got to see that the heroes are barely holding it together and even the 'easy to beat' villains have stepped up their game significantly. Meanwhile with more threats to Earth from outside there will be more times where Invincible is off planet and other attacks can be co-ordinated.
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u/SluttySaxon William Clockwell Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
Not really. They don’t need to die for it to have impact. The fight tested their limits and showed us that they are not as capable as we expected them to be. They were all severely injured and will likely be dealing with physical and mental trauma from narrowly avoiding death which can lead to more depth and complexity of character. It showed that they need to up their game and have a lot more training and growth to do, individually and as well as a team to avoid anything like that happening again. It also additionally gives more reason for Eve to join the Guardians, which evidently Cecil wants.
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u/approveddust698 Mar 21 '24
But they did the same thing last season with the gang. Doing it again doesn’t feel right
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u/ianjm Mar 21 '24
How are you so sure Kate had a backup clone if the show is taking a different path to the comics?
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u/KaijuKing007 Mar 21 '24
Nah. They don't have the other Image characters, so it makes sense to keep her around so she can fight alternate Marks or be killed by Robot.
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u/-The-Follower Mar 21 '24
It’s effective because Rex thought she was dead, that entire fight was for Rex’s development, with Kate and Ray as tertiary focuses. Why is it that you think death is the only thing that gives a fight impact?
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u/TheAnimeJunkie Mar 21 '24
Because they aren’t dead so the next time we see a death on screen why would I assume they actually died? They can just come up with an excuse to make them alive and removes any tension from the fight if plot armor is involved.
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u/DarknessSerpent Mar 21 '24
Problem with having fake-out deaths is that the audience is not going to be invested in the stakes in future fights. You need characters to die sometimes.
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u/Late-Return-3114 Mar 21 '24
and the comics have way too many fake out deaths as is. if the show is adding more that is not good news
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u/geeker390 Pentagon - Parking in Rear Mar 21 '24
I'm holding my breath to see where they go with this. Don't write this off yet I'd say.
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u/MoeFuka Mar 22 '24
I can only think of one. Can you give some examples?
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u/Late-Return-3114 Mar 22 '24
oliver, mark (so many times), eve, kate, angstrom. i'm sure there's more but that's just off the top of my head.
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u/MehrunesDago Titan Mar 21 '24
That was a 100% impossible to survive situation if they were going to retcon the fact that Rae is supposed to die there they shouldn't have quadrupled down on the brutality and lethality of the scene itself, as it stands now it just pulls people out of it because of how utterly ridiculous it is that she survived. It's one thing to have an impactful fight that doesn't end in death and it's another thing entirely to have an impactful fight that does end in death only for 5 minutes later it be revealed that nah they actually lived through being crunched to bits and then suffocated and crushed.
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u/Very_Talentless Battle Beast Mar 21 '24
I'm torn since her death would've been really effective in that scene, but I really wanna see more of Ray
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u/SadCrouton The Viltrumites Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 22 '24
I think it does make the horror of her final moments… less horrible. Idk we’ll see but Rae’s death got a much bigger emotional reaction from me then Rays and knowing she’s still alive does undercut it a bit
Like she got crunched in a bite, then crushed on the expansion - she’s done
idk they might make me invested but im feeling nah
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u/Previous_Airline_984 Mar 21 '24
I mean I like show Rae better than comic ray but if they don’t cook smh
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u/LaughingIsAwesome Mar 21 '24
She shouldn't have survived and it doesn't make sense she survived. Does no one remember how much blood Komodo dragon coughed up? RAE'S BLOOD. The blood loss alone should have killed her.
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u/Dulow008 Séance Dog Mar 21 '24
She fucked him up from the inside then shrank down, it was his blood not hers.
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u/Radialpuddle Mar 21 '24
Comic spoiler it was both his and raes blood
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u/MehrunesDago Titan Mar 21 '24
Komodo doesn't even spit out blood in the comics bruh what are you talking about
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u/Lopsided_Sprinkles88 Omni-Man and Invincible Mar 21 '24
Could have been his own internal bleeding
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u/TheAnimeJunkie Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
How is she breathing while in his body? Not only was she chewed and then we heard her screaming and bones cracking. The lizard guy was fine enough to continue fighting and winning which wouldn’t make much sense if he had terrible internal injuries
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u/Otherwise_Worth7031 Mar 21 '24
Haven't watched the episode yet but incredibly disappointed to find out she survived. What a joke.
Fake-out deaths are so irritating.
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u/Mykonos714 Mar 21 '24
Fr. Big fan of the comics and really am not sure what they could do with her character from here…certainly annoyed. How could she even survive that…?
Really takes away from the scene, especially since kate survives too
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u/Otherwise_Worth7031 Mar 21 '24
They should've just had him swallow her straight up, no chewing and no silly little "oh she's being crushed inside of him" nonsense. Then it's kind of ambiguous, and it would make sense that she could survive it.
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u/Mykonos714 Mar 21 '24
Yeah exactly. The crunching was the big thing that’s like…really? She survived that somehow? I understand they probably want to make the show have its own differences, so comic readers don’t know exactly what’s gonna happen, but I wouldn’t use Ray being alive as one of those moments
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u/AwesomeMan2048 Allen the Alien Mar 21 '24
I’m happy that she’s alive but it is a little concerning from a storytelling perspective. As long as they do something interesting with her then I won’t mind. Like maybe she freaks out about almost dying and retires, or injuries physically stop her from fighting. Just do something to develop her character. If the status quo is restored then it will be a mistake.
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u/gekkoO0 Mar 21 '24
I think I'd consider 2 things 1. I'm not so sure whether she'll be stable, like I actually still assumed her to not make it after watching this episode, unless I missed a line in the show somewhere 2. But even if she makes it, I'm pretty sure this show is adapting the comics with extra's put in, perhaps the writers just wanted her powers for other scenes or reasons to change from the comics, killing of a character equals to killing of potential, and killing off potential equals to killing runtime. Point is, if she makes it there have to be good lore or plot reasons right?
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u/MrUsername24 Mar 21 '24
Eh if they cripple her they take her out of the story un the same way but allow her to stay on for emotional stories and arcs
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u/MFlazybone Invincible Mar 21 '24
I was at first but maybe this is one way to make up for not being able to use other Image heroes. Maybe we get more development and a different satisfying end?
I'm not opposed to more Rae as long as her character doesn't suck lol
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Mar 21 '24
I think they plan on having her and Rex interact more to build on his character
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u/MehrunesDago Titan Mar 21 '24
Rex gets a lil more pussy, bringing his total to 3 in the series rn he's tied for biggest poonhound with Omni-Man with a confirmed sex count of 2
Although actually since they went through Immortal's past lives and he was Genghis Khan he's got the highest confirmed bodycount by at least a couple thousand
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u/alfis329 Mar 21 '24
The only thing I remember her doing in the show or comics is dying. I don’t even know what her voice sounds like. I just hope she actually does something in the show since they brought her back
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u/damnspider Mar 21 '24
Yes, because it was such an impactful death and they just walked it back like every other superhero show, and I also feel like an ass wanting her to stay dead when I love her character.
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u/Asher_Khughi1813 JK Simmons body pillow Mar 21 '24
lol i forgot the episode came out today, damn i should've known and not clicked this even though it says spoiler
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u/JLifts780 Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
I’m sick of shows not having the balls anymore to kill off characters, sucks the wind out of future battles.
Also weird that everyone now loves her character seemingly because she’s hot I guess?
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u/deeweromekoms Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
The title doesn't make sense. No one ever said she was dead and then retconned it. I get that it was implied given how brutal it sounded plus her comic counterpart dying around this point, but this isn't the comic. I also have a thing for hot brunettes with glasses (I married one), so I'm not annoyed at all.
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u/MilkOfCows3195 Mar 21 '24
So many people defending this fake out death. People are like "she didn't need to die for the impact". Yes we know that Rex is still traumatized but it does undermine the last scene and now the stakes are lower in future battles. Especially knowing Kate survives as well, unless they changed that.
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u/weaselkidR Mar 21 '24
You tag your post as show spoilers and then proceed to reveal a spoiler from the comic. Good job
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u/Antique_Log3382 Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
I hate it. Audiences are wayyyyyy too used to the marvel way of never letting characters actually die and it sucks. It removes tension. Fights where i know for a fact all the heroes will be ok are boring. This show isnt for children. Let people face consequences. There is no realistic way she survived that shit,
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u/PromiseToHeron Mar 21 '24
Fr, the chewing and suffocation, she should have been a heap of bloody pulp after that. Everyone here is delusional and enamored with a character with 0 character.
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u/Odd_Lifeguard8957 Mar 21 '24
I like Rae, but I agree. There's no way she could have realistically survived that, especially not without coming out extremely mangled.
I am curious to see what they'll do with her, but I do think they kind of undermined themselves.
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u/approveddust698 Mar 21 '24
I think the biggest issue is at no point does the show, show us that she could survive that. Like if we know she was like antman or some shit where when she’s small she’s much tougher and more durable, it wouldn’t be an issue
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u/SirKronner Mar 21 '24
I'm just gonna accept that there's no stakes in this series, like an old-school cartoon if a character is named it can't truly die
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u/Radialpuddle Mar 21 '24
Every member of the guardians of the globe would like a word
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u/Thatonedregdatkilyu Mar 21 '24
Did she survive? People are saying both like a question and a fact
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u/True_Falsity Mar 21 '24
Unpopular opinion but no.
I know, “heroes must suffer consequences” but I feel like getting almost literally folded inside some guy’s guts is punishment enough.
Being honest, I never really like the comic version of Ray’s death where he was just chewed up and forgotten.
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u/himynametopher Mar 21 '24
I can’t remember is this where Rex dies in the comics? It seems they’re leaning into the Kate story line that comes out of this.
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u/NawAmeil Mar 21 '24
I spent all week clicking on spoiler images and then woke up and reflexively clicked this picture haha I'm dumb in the morning
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u/PepyHare15 Comic Fan Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 22 '24
I didn’t know she survived lol, where did you get that info? Also I’m not sure I really mind the change, in both the show and the comics Ray has little character and their “death” (apparently “”) was pretty forgettable, especially considering the other deaths happening around then. So far when the show makes changes to things from the comics I generally like the changes more than I loved the original, so I’m willing to see where they go with this and if they flesh out her character more
Edit: LOL forgot next episode came out
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u/MehrunesDago Titan Mar 21 '24
I actually really liked the way Ray went out in the comics and just the way that whole scene played out in general, it was just so quick and brutal and shocking in a way that really sold the danger and consequences of the world. Kate fucking dies and then Ray rushes in like a hero to avenge her and just gets caught and killed and it's moved on from just like that, because the only one alive now is Rex and he's gotta fight for his fucking life to make it out he can't linger on all that. The only thing I really liked better about the show's version was the very last sequence where Rex is being torn up running and is about to be shot, him crying in the comic was cool in a fucked way but I just like him being defiant more.
King Lizard is better in the comics too I think he comes off more crazy which is intimidating, and the way the backgrounds are done in the comic just sells the scene so much more too.
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u/The_Guermo Mar 21 '24
Actually your right. I knew Kate lived but in the moment I got caught in the now and didn't think about her returning.
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u/MehrunesDago Titan Mar 21 '24
He should have kept the scene exactly the same then. Ray could have survived, Rae couldn't have.
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u/zoon_politikon_ Brit Mar 21 '24
Back in the day, there was a handbock regarding Invincible characters.
Look what it says about Komodo Dragon.
"Komodo can utilize powerful toxins generated inside his body as both offensive and defensive weapons(...) Komodo`s teeth, nails and battle suit all contain serrated edges containing microscopic protein pockets, home to vast numbers of exotic bacteria(...) any contact with Komodo can pass these deadly bacteria contagions wich can prove fatal over the following days. The effect is not physical but phsychological(...)"
Let`s see how she deal with the aftermath. Hope she survives but being swallowed and struggling inside the digestive system of this villain? Doesn`t look god for her, if she dies will be even more brutal, because she will suffer a lot.
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u/Malthus_enjoyer Mar 21 '24
I was more impressed than annoyed tbh. Rex also survived a freaking shot in the head.
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u/Segunda_European69 Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
I had a feeling they were going to cop out on her death.
Edit: You can hear her fucking spine breaking in the guy's body.
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u/ArthurMorgan694 Omni-Man Mar 21 '24
I get that the fight is pointless. But I am actually glad she survived. I liked her, and that death was too far and too pointless.
I take it that she either retires or she has an honourable sacrifice later on.
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u/C-zom Mar 21 '24
I’m actually fairly upset at this. She went out on her shield doing what she does best. She got chewed. Crushed. Then smashed internally and you can literally hear her fall into his stomach before he says yum lol.
She flops out like a newborn deer visually utilizing all her limbs. Suit is intact. No protruding. I guess the user who said she got tiny again last second and would crawl out of the head wound is writing the show.
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u/420CowboyTrashGoblin Rex Splode Mar 21 '24
Yeah I was literally thinking about that comment as soon as I saw her.
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u/Covid669 Mar 21 '24
Yeah I think it’s dumb for multiple reasons.
First, what’s the point of keeping her alive? In the comic Shrinking Ray was just a filler character and she’s that in the show as well. At least Ray’s death made the fight feel more impactful and showed just how much of a shitshow the fight was (to be fair it still was in the show).
Secondly, how did she survive? Wasn’t she crushed? I mean that’s what it sounded like and that should have killed her and turn her into fine paste. She’s no viltrumite, she can just shrink.
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u/TheMauveHerring Mar 22 '24
They changed this how do you know Kate isn't actually dead? A bit too quick to say that the fight is meaningless since no one died.
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u/Matiyahu777 Mar 22 '24
Yep. Cheapens it. Everybody surviving impossible scenarios diminishes the stakes. Bade move by the writers.
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u/Hexalt Mar 22 '24
No, because her death was/would have been poorly written. We all still had the shock/gut punch and we know the series isn't above killing characters so I'm sure her time will come in new way now. I love when series take chances with lackluster aspects and gives some more life to their worlds.
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u/RealPasto Mar 21 '24
I never really understood why some think to add stakes to a battle, or to have a traumatic outcome that's felt throughout future episodes or events for a show/movie/book/game, someone has to die. Death isn't and shouldn't be the "want to make this feel dire and terrifying? Kill em!" card used in media every time. You can create moments that make the audience sweat and get emotional without bodies dropping. Because if all you do to add semblance of hopelessness to something is kill kill kill, it removes any impact from any future deaths. That's just my POV, so I wasn't upset when she was revealed to have lived
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u/MehrunesDago Titan Mar 21 '24
Yeah but they did the kill kill kill route and then walked it back extremely unrealistically, if the scene had played out different it would be one thing but they made an extreme point to show she died so walking it back now is dumb
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Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
I pointed this out in the comic spoilers thread but the discussion around this is irritating the shit out of me because you're acting like the comics also didn't pull this shit constantly. They had to come up with some bullshit reason at the end as to how to permanently kill a viltrumite because so many of them throughout the series would get fucking disemboweled and nothing would happen.
Allen's scene where he gets torn apart is from the comics.
Invincible has an issue with this from the very beginning and it didn't start with the show keeping a jobber character alive because truthfully, it wouldn't matter if Rae died or not right now. I'm not afraid for the life of Invincible or Atom Eve because a jobber character that had maybe less than 10 lines of dialogue got killed. This gives the audience a chance to actually care about her. It's not real stakes if all you kill off are the characters with no development.
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u/DDisconnected Debbie Grayson Mar 21 '24
Honestly I thought Kate would survive and not Rae.