r/worldnews • u/DownWithAssad • 5d ago

Russia sentences 15-year-old schoolboy to 5 years for criticizing Putin regime and war against Ukraine Russia/Ukraine

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u/Ghost9001 5d ago

Little weak man scared of a 15 year old boy.

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u/CarnegieFormula 5d ago

This is to prevent others from following suit by making an example

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u/I-RonButterfly 5d ago

...Because he is weak.

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u/canonlynn 5d ago

Exactly, everyone knows that kids will say stupid shit that they will have to learn not say, when a dictator goes for the kids it must send a cruel message even for the true supporters.

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u/ArenjiTheLootGod 5d ago

Except that the kid wasn't saying stupid shit, he was speaking the truth and that's what has got the Russian government scared. Even if cruelty was the point, handling it this way is spectacularly dumb because now far more people are going to hear the kid's message than if they had just left him alone. I mean, we're hearing about it and it's rare to hear anything coming out of Russia these days that isn't state propaganda or hourly threats of dropping nukes.

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u/Livid_Camel_7415 5d ago

handling it this way is spectacularly dumb because now far more people are going to hear the kid's message than if they had just left him alone.

This is a very Western take. You keep hoping for a trigger, this is not how Russia works. If anything, this signals for the rest of the people that it's time to be extra quiet, because they are putting children in prison now.

You approach this as someone who takes responsibility for society, because you live in a democracy and you feel that you have a dog in the race.

Russians have no such experience, for them, government is like the weather. You just adapt. Whatever happens, happens anyway.

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u/Fogmoose 5d ago

What a sad way to live life. And what many in the US on the right would probably like to see their country become.

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u/Luke90210 4d ago

If that reality took place in the US, most of these rubes would be slaughtered. Once the right seizes control, why would they let others remained armed? In most of these types of revolutions, often the true believers have to be the first to go.

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u/hanzo1504 4d ago

Isn't that also what US politics is like though? Obviously less authoritarian and there's two parties, but what's the difference between those two really? They're both center-right to right and they both sell out to different interest groups.

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u/MrsACT 5d ago

It’s so hard to upvote this because it’s so horrific, but you’re right, sadly. And this is exactly what will become of the USA if we can’t get the decent people to vote against mini Putin

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u/Fogmoose 5d ago

What a sad way to live life. And what many in the US on the right would probably like to see their country become.

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u/breadiest 4d ago

They did do it once before. Though it was much less of a sole trigger and more of a gradual level of utter suffering for everyone which eventually caused spontaneous revolution in 1917.

They barely had a dog in the race then, in fact its probably very similar to the level of power they have now.

Eventually something will happen, lest all their issues are overblown and they improve their quality of life somehow.

Generally, comparatively low quality of life over long periods of time always leads to shakeups of leadership in any society.

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u/Cdru123 4d ago

If that happened in a western country, anyway, people would also end up having to adapt

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u/RiffsThatKill 5d ago

Yeah but every now and then some of them go apeshit and a revolution happens. Which just goes to show you, even if they realize they can change it...do you really want them to? You never know who comes in after to pick up the pieces and entrench themselves in state power.

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u/Livid_Camel_7415 5d ago

You never know who's going to be the next guy in charge, but you can rest assured that he is going to be your enemy. You worry about capability, the intent is always the same.

No different than another flavor of Kim taking charge in North Korea.

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u/Fogmoose 5d ago

Every now and then? Like once in the last couple of centuries?

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u/Dark_Rit 5d ago

Yeah and that was because the masses were starving. I'm sure some starve in Russia now, but it isn't a big enough number to incite a revolution. It would be miraculous if Russia became a western style of government, but it's not happening.

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u/Fogmoose 5d ago

Every now and then? Like once in the last couple of centuries?

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u/RiffsThatKill 4d ago

Precisely.

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u/Fogmoose 4d ago

I wouldn't classify that as 'now and then'. I would classify that as "rarely to never".

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u/RiffsThatKill 4d ago

And I wouldn't waste my time quibbling over very non-specific language. So classify it however you want, I don't give a shit because that wasn't the lynchpin of the comment lol

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u/AxDilez 5d ago

Barbara Streisand effect fr

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u/canonlynn 5d ago

My point was that normal people know not to judge kids for what they say because they have years of learning ahead of them. I also agree it is very stupid for the government precisely for the message it sends to its supporters, that humans who are not even fully developed can be jailed for criticism.

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u/Loose_Hornet4126 5d ago

You’re reasoning this out. But I don’t think you get the point that was being made. Perhaps you’re just not able to understand how the world operates at times now and throughout history. It’s naive to assume the right thing is what prevails in these situations.

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u/canonlynn 4d ago

I know about coercion and fear, don't worry about me.

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u/XWarriorYZ 5d ago

If this were really true, one of the thousands of Russian “martyrs” would have been the tipping point for revolution by now. Instead, the Russian people just keep taking the abuse because even if they did hear about what happened to this boy, they would think “he was stupid for speaking out” not “the government is terrible for doing this”.

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u/paanbr 5d ago

Truth hurts.

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u/Delta64 5d ago edited 4d ago

You nailed it.

You want people to forget something?

Starve it of any and all attention.

It's really weird how mainstream media collectively collaborated in 2016 to give Trump as much screen time as possible, and then they behaved like an unforseen disaster had happened when he won.

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u/noiraxen 4d ago

Good thing for him then I suppose is that he doesnt want them to forget. He wants to make sure they remember the price of speaking up against him.  
  
Reddit always yapping about how little/weak/scared putin is and how he is creating a martyr and will wake people up/make them turn against him.  
  
He has been a dictator for over 20 years with hundreds of "martyrs" dead bodies and "turning points" behind him.         
  
Pretty sure he knows better how to keep his power than random redditors.  

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u/Delta64 4d ago

Looks like Putin is getting his WWIII: North Korean troops are to arrive at the frontlines in Ukraine within a month.

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u/Numerous_Society9320 5d ago

handling it this way is spectacularly dumb because now far more people are going to hear the kid's message than if they had just left him alone.

I think this is wishful thinking. This news article is from a Ukraine based human rights group. It's in English. Only 5% of Russians speak English. It's very possible that the vast majority of Russians will never hear about this, and if they will, then it's because the Russian government wants them to.

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

I can't load the article right now, but why are we believing the headline exactly? It seems pretty far fetched as written. I mean, Russia obviously is not cracking down on every single person who criticizes the government, so what is the actual truth? Is he leaking info, or what? Because the headline exactly as written is clearly not the whole story.

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u/minnesotalattes 5d ago

Communism doesn't care what you think

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u/ArenjiTheLootGod 5d ago

Russia hasn't been a communist state since the USSR fell back in the 90s, they merely traded one form of authoritarianism for another.

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u/why_does 5d ago

every kid should say it, for fun

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u/Prestigious-Wolf8039 5d ago

This kid was speaking the truth! Nothing stupid about him.

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u/fiduciary420 5d ago

Just like donald trump. Who will totally behave this way if enough uneducated, bad people vote for him this year.

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

Why didn't he do it last time then?

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u/neutral-chaotic 5d ago

It wasn’t for lack of trying.

There were enough conscientious objectors in his administration to stem the tide last time. A mistake he won’t make again.

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

Like who? Name somebody in his administration who actively prevented him doing something specific. Cause otherwise this claim is complete nonsense.

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u/neutral-chaotic 4d ago

Mike Pence upheld the electoral vote certification in spite of Trump requesting he “do the right thing” and not.

Trump wanted to drive to the Capitol at that point to spur his supporters on. His Secret Service refused.

There are several others, but your refusal to see the truth either means you’re a troll or too obtuse. Either way, you aren’t arguing in good faith and this is my last response to you.

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u/feraxks 5d ago

Because last time he didn't think he could get away with and there were still enough sane people around to keep him in check. Now he his surrounded by people even more insane than him and they will do anything necessary to stay in power. Project 2025 isn't a playbook for making America great again. Its a playbook for how to stay in power.

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

If he didn't think he could get away with it, why'd he attempt a coup? He surely also believed he wouldn't get away with that, by your logic.

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u/feraxks 5d ago

He thought he could get away with it. He was wrong. but that isn't what we were talking about. We were talking about jailing people that are critical of him.

Nice of you to try to move the goal posts.

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

It's moving the goalposts to ask why he didn't do anything of the sort in his first term? Explain.

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u/fiduciary420 5d ago

Because he needed to get re-elected. Educated grown ups understand this.

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

Wtf are you talking about? You think he cared so much about getting re-elected that he didn't do anything remotely similar to this? So then by this logic, you also think Biden will become an authoritarian, right? I mean, the only reason not to is to get re-elected, right?

The fucking gall to say that and call yourself an educated grown up...

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u/fiduciary420 5d ago

Logic doesn’t even need to play into this. Biden is a normal president, weak trump is a compromised criminal. He didn’t do the authoritarian shit because his job during his first term was to stack the courts with conservative trash, which is a requirement for breaking authoritarian in his second and subsequent terms. Educated grown ups went to history class and know how fascists have seized power and how trump and his complicit compromised republicans were working the playbook. And still are.

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

If you knew history, then you'd know that liberals are famously bad at preventing fascists taking power.

LMAO at "logic doesn't need to play into this". Sure bro, you go ahead and worry about your feelings, just let us adults use logic whole you do.

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u/fiduciary420 5d ago

Yes, liberals have historically been bad at getting uneducated weaklings to understand why voting for conservatives is problematic, I will give you that. What year did you graduate college? 😀

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

2017, not that it matters. Plenty of dumbasses graduate college, doesn't make them right.

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u/Eyes_Only1 5d ago

“It’s the liberals fault that the GOP are nazis!” Is a new and very stupid take.

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u/SilverWear5467 5d ago

So the actual Nazis, in 1932, killed every known member of the communist party, because they were a threat to them. All of the liberal politicians were spared, because they were not in any way an impediment to their plans and granted the Nazis clout by association. It wasn't until 1939, when the plans were already underway, that they felt it was beneficial for them to kill the liberal politicians.

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u/minnesotalattes 5d ago

Trump will be the only one to stop the war you dummy

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u/fiduciary420 5d ago

Yes, he will stop the war by making sure Ukraine can’t defend itself, allowing Putin to wipe out the Ukrainians and take their land. Only the trashiest republican pieces of fucking dog shit think this is a great idea.

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u/Antique-Cry4807 5d ago

They aren't defending themselves if they are completely dependent on outside help. Who ever wins this will only get a huge never ending welfare case. Let em have it if they can take it. I think Ukraine does pretty good without us. And Russian army kinda sucks.

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u/Dark_Rit 5d ago

Russia can't afford to perpetually wage war on Ukraine though, we're not trying to support Ukraine for decades upon decades. What eventually happens is Russia is forced to give up or sacrifice all their young people to the war effort, crippling their economy for decades.

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u/fiduciary420 4d ago

Guess we should have just let the Nazis have Europe then, right republican?

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u/Past-Pomelo-7386 5d ago

…and terrified

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u/minnesotalattes 5d ago

I'll buy you a ticket , ypu go tell him that to hos face

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u/ofon 5d ago

weak people don't make it through the KGB like he did...ruthless may be a better word.

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u/I-RonButterfly 5d ago

You mean the guy who was almost deposed by a chef and his armed goons and cowered off to a secret villa out of fear?

Is cowering in fear a demonstration of strength?

I'll give you this. He's ruthless to teenagers who say mean things when he's hiding behind his thugs.

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u/nowtayneicangetinto 5d ago

Yes, he wants other children who scare him to not speak up. This, he's afraid of little boys and girls because he's a massive massive massive pussy

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u/Obscuriosly 5d ago

Streisand effect gonna fuck up that plan

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u/dontpet 5d ago

It's unfortunate but Russian leaders want us talking about this boy and seeing that our gets lots Of coverage. It means parents will clamp down on it swiftly with others.

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u/dagobahh 5d ago

Well, duh..

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u/TheKanten 5d ago

"Putin would like the voters to know that he is hard on children."

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u/CarnegieFormula 5d ago

I think it’s to deter the next generation (youth) from speaking freely against their own country

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u/thereIsAHoleHere 5d ago

Now dictators are pulling from the Napster playbook. Wild times.