Undecided voters say they now support Joe Biden after debate

[u/OkRoll3915]

https://www.newsweek.com/latino-voters-donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-election-1918795

[u/Murky_Effect_7667]

You are among the few people that are being real here if trump wins the sanctity of democracy that is already in tatters will be gone. I doubt he gains the control to be a dictator like some people believe but the Supreme Court will fuck us all over til the day we die. The precedent will be set that liars and cheats can and will win in not just in capitalism but the presidency. I get it politicians typically lie but trump literally is incapable of speaking the truth and using information to make decisions he does what he wants and makes up the reality he wants while his followers eat it up. The Supreme Court already legalized bribery this month everything is at stake here

[u/Reclusive_Chemist → u/Murky_Effect_7667]

It's less Trump himself than the sycophants he surrounds himself with who are the danger. They're making the plans, his hand would just be the one signing the executive orders or bills they ultimately craft.

[u/Embarrassed_Worth504 → u/Reclusive_Chemist]

Yeah, Trump isn't smart enough to be a dictator. The clowns around him though....

[u/Spu12nky → u/Embarrassed_Worth504]

Trump sucks, but he is far from stupid.  Unfortunately he is smart, and convinced a bunch of blue collar good old boys that he gives two shits about them.  He has played the Christian conservatives like a fiddle.  The stupid people are those that unquestionably believe whatever Trump says.  

[u/phriot → u/Spu12nky]

It's probably immaterial, because the outcome is the same, but Trump is not smart - he just has an intuitive low cunning that makes him a good con man. He's not a virtuoso playing a violin; he's a monkey who bangs at the typewriter so much that he produces Shakespeare far more often than you'd think.

[u/Ted_Rid → u/phriot]

Heard a good take on him: that his main skill is reading the room.

So when he goes rambling on weird tangents at rallies, his narcissistic impulses are very finely tuned to what creates a positive reaction, so he throws a bunch of random shit at the wall, then when the audience responds to one piece of shit he quickly pivots and makes that the focus.

A useful talent for a conman, or a used car salesman ("you look like the kinda guy who values engine power...(no reaction from buyer)...but even more importantly, reliability! (yes, got a bite!), well this car is super reliable, but also powerful. Do you have a family? You could load them into this beauty with all the luggage and cross the country 10 times, no problems" etc)

Great for getting people onside, but making up policy on the fly like that is obviously shithouse.

[u/Embarrassed_Worth504 → u/Spu12nky]

I vehemently disagree. I do not see a competent authoritarian in Trump. I see someone who says things with no knowledge of what he is talking about. I see someone who did not ever effectively govern as leader. I see someone who knows how to profit off of other other people. It doesn't take much intelligence to con US Christians and blue collar workers. Not to mention his clear mental, cognitive and intellectual impairments and handicaps.

[u/SteelBandicoot → u/Spu12nky]

Trump will do whatever the highest bidder wants.

[u/Fireman16dye → u/SteelBandicoot]

Trump is the highest bidder

[u/BeefWellingtonSpeedo → u/SteelBandicoot]

Why do you think Biden is different?