r/facepalm • u/wach_era13 • 2d ago
So, a woman has to have kids and married to be a role model?š¤¦āāļø š²āš®āšøāšØā
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u/miauguau44 2d ago
Meanwhile Lauren Boebert was a grandmother at 36.
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u/brannon1987 2d ago
In their eyes, she's the perfect role model. She got pregnant early and made sure her kid followed suit.
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u/HermaeusMajora 2d ago
There's that and then all the meth she's been doing.
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u/brannon1987 2d ago
And the groping in a public theater on camera
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u/lagx777 2d ago
While vaping
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u/Free-Initiative-7957 2d ago
In front of children, after being asked to stop by the pregnant lady who was concerned about inhaling whatever the trash was partaking of. And then posted about it, joking as if she thought she did the show a favor by giving them a shout out, instead of having any sense of shame or decency about ruining the night for the audience as well blatantly disrespecting the entire cast, crew and venue by acting like an unconscionable fool.
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u/Capones_Vault 2d ago
And not a peep from her party. Trash, all of them.
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u/Sloth_grl 2d ago
I just realized that no one talks shit about the guy. Why isnāt he being called out on his behavior? Why arenāt people criticizing him? Even I wasnāt and Iām a woman.
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u/Capones_Vault 2d ago
He's trash too but he's not representing the "family values party" like she does.
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u/koolaid_snorkeler 2d ago
And that "do you know who I am?" shit. Very classy stuff, around the trailer park.
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u/NeevBunny 2d ago
Isn't her boyfriend or husband or whatever he is also a pedophile? Seems like the earliest possible pregnancy is something they're trying to push on all fronts
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u/zeptillian 2d ago
They are trying to lower the age of consent.Ā
They want women married off by age 14 like the Taliban.
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u/ThatScaryBeach 2d ago
Republicans are working on 12. 12 years old is a child.
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u/alolanalice10 2d ago
14 is a child too but 12 is unthinkable
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u/ThatScaryBeach 2d ago
Indeed, why is lowering the age of consent such an important part of the Republican agenda? We get they hate taxes, we get they don't want gun restrictions, but why do they need to lower the age of consent so badly?
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u/BewBewsBoutique 2d ago
She married the dude who flashed her when she was a child, for them sheās āproofā that the way they treat women and children āworks.ā
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u/driverman42 2d ago
And I hear she's great with hand jobs, especially when children are present.
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u/Manuels-Kitten 2d ago
The gran of my stepdad who became a grandmom at 31 (had first at 16, that kid had a kid at 13) would be his role model lol š
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u/Soggy_Difficulty_361 2d ago
Pretty low bar set, to give more credit to a woman for doing essentially what is a natural process while discrediting another for her achievements and talent.
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u/Satanicjamnik 2d ago edited 1d ago
While giving a dry handjob to some dude in a public place while vaping. Virgin Mary is envious of her virtue.
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u/Free-Initiative-7957 2d ago
On a first (and last, because at least he had sense enough to be embarrassed when he sobered up) date no less.
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u/Raskel_61 2d ago
She's emulating the other Mary.
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u/CapAccomplished8072 2d ago
No , I am quite sure that one cheated on Joseph
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u/lorax1284 2d ago
"Oh, that shepherd? The lean, muscular one who works in the fields all day? Nah, he had nothing to do with it, he was just a witness. Yeah. He saw god force himself on me and make me pregnant. It's god! What choice did I have?!?"
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u/nescko 2d ago
The same people that vote for a trash human like Boebert are the same ones who look down upon women over 30 who donāt have kids or arenāt married because they arenāt fulfilling their ātraditional dutiesā in their eyes. It hurts their frail ideology that women canāt be happy unless theyāre a bangmaid
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u/Ok-Rabbit1878 2d ago
āā¦who look down upon white (and some subgroups of Asian, because theyāre fetishized) women over 30 who donāt have kids or arenāt marriedā¦ā
They have very different feelings and rhetoric towards Black and Brown women who are married or have children young.
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u/MohatmoGandy 2d ago
Married a pedophile who exposed himself to her when she was a minor. Got pregnant and dropped out off school to have a shotgun wedding. Later seen jerking a man off in a crowded theater. The absolute best role model for young girls, because sheās white and she pushes out the children.
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u/lorax1284 2d ago
and don't forget that she's literally shameless and will say and do anything, even when saying it makes her 100% a hypocrite.
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u/-Opinionated- 2d ago
Iām not American but i started following some American politics when Obama ran for president because āa black man vs white womanā either one was be a first.
Then i started seeing Lauren boebert videos on reddit. I thought she was a caricature by the left for the longest time. Thereās no way someone like this could be actually politically relevant.
Welp.
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u/Sheknowswhothisis 2d ago
Why are all entertainers expected to be role models?
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u/Caesar_Passing 2d ago
As a kid, I never got the concept of "role models". For all their many faults and mixed messages, my parents drove home the virtue that we each live and do what we do, to be ourselves. Like, other kids have different rules that they live by. That's because they have different lives, different parents, different things are more or less important for them (values), and so on. I guess in short, the "run your own race" sentiment. I was also in karate for a long time, where the prevailing ideology is that the person you should be trying to be better than, is yesterday's you.
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u/Lizard_Friend_44 2d ago
I never really understood it, either. There's people that I admire for one reason or another, but to call them role models? To act like they have to do everything right and never make a mistake? To bring up another pop star, I grew up loving Britney Spears and her music. My parents never complained about her performances or anything she did. She wasn't raising me, my parents were.
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u/Caesar_Passing 2d ago
Well said. I kinda feel like, if you're worried about other people being role models for your kid, you might want to reassess your parenting approach, lol. But maybe that's not entirely fair, I don't know. My parents put a lot of wild expectations on me, but none of them were to be "like" someone else.
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u/Latter-Direction-336 2d ago
As a kid, I seldom looked up to anyone as a role model
Occasionally hiccup from httyd and Optimus prime, from TF Prime and a few other series but not usually other kids. Mostly because I was the oldest at my daycare by like 5-8 years but still
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u/NoMarionberry8940 2d ago
I would argue that as an independent, self made billionaire, Swift could be an excellent role model for anyone.
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u/consort_oflady_vader 2d ago
Because goddess forbid young girls see a self made, woman billionaire. The horror! /s
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u/LadyReika 2d ago
For a lot of these incels it is because it makes them even more irrelevant and they can't stand that because they refuse to reflect on why they get rejected.
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u/maybe_steel8175 2d ago
Self made billionaires don't exist. She grew up in a mansion, and every business in existence makes its money solely from the exploitation of its workers.
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u/Useful-Soup8161 2d ago
Sheās not a business though, and she pays her employees better than average. Sheās also an outlier because sheās the only person to become a billionaire just off of music.
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u/Catsdrinkingbeer 2d ago
Agreed. I remember growing up and having to write "who is your role model" type essays. I ALWAYS wrote about someone I knew personally. If I picked someone famous it was someone who was famous for doing something role model-esque, like Sally Ride or something.Ā
That's not to say musicians or actors or athletes can't ALSO be role models. But their profession alone doesn't make them role models. And it shouldn't have to. That's not their job.
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u/No-Fishing5325 2d ago
Last month they were attacking Dolly Parton because she never had kids. She has done more to make sure other people's kids have a better shot at life than many parents do with their own kids.
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u/baronesslucy 2d ago
My thing is, why do these people care. How does the fact that Dolly Parton never have children adversely affected their lives? It doesn't affect their lives.
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u/DangerousTurmeric 1d ago
They are terrified that more women will figure out that they can live outside of the rigid roles the christofascists have set out for them and then the supply of bangmaid-mommies will dry up, and along with it the pipeline of new babies to brainwash into their "faith".
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u/Amelaclya1 2d ago
Honestly they probably hate that Dolly promotes literacy. People who read don't tend to stay conservative.
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u/DrSendy 2d ago
More accurate headline: "Publication no one cares about anymore tries to be edgelords, 10 years after being an edgelord was cool".
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u/LillyL4444 2d ago
Written by a dude who thinks that a felon with 3 baby mommas is a good role model and Presidential materialā¦
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u/JadeStratus 2d ago
Bingo
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u/Captn_Insanso 2d ago
Thatās a bingo!!!
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u/thesilentbob123 2d ago
You just say bingo
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u/firstman0 2d ago
You have to breed with as many women as possible to show your alpha-nessā¦./sā¦.. lol
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u/NoMarionberry8940 2d ago
Yet, women should confine their breeding to ONE man....
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u/Hekatonkheire81 2d ago
They use this weird argument of efficiency to defend it too. When would we ever be in a situation where a man had to rapidly impregnate as many women as possible? If it ever came to that, whatever killed off that many men would be the bigger problem.
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u/SinfullySinless 2d ago
Hey hey hey- Trump is a man. Men can date around all they want to. IT IS THE WOMEN WE MUST MARRY OFF INSTANTLY. /s
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u/mi-chreideach 2d ago
Who was the incel that wrote the misogynistic trash? I don't want to give Newsweek the click.
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u/modest-pixel 2d ago
John Mac Ghlionn, do yourself a favor and look up images of him and everything will make sense.
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u/mi-chreideach 2d ago
Yikes! Yep, it makes sense. Dude would be ideal to have in your house during the summer because nothing is wet around him.
* Apparently, he also writes for the cult newspaper, the Epoch Times. Why is Newsweek stooping that low?
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u/Unique_Anywhere5735 2d ago
Because they're Newsweek. Always right-wing.
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u/Ok-Cauliflower1798 2d ago
Very true, but in the past few years they have veered from ādental practice waiting room right-wingā to Epoch Times fascist trash lunacy.
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u/galstaph 2d ago
And also calls Eurovision out for being too progressive
What was once a stage for showcasing musical talent has transformed into a platform where the bizarre reigns supreme, where men can identify as women, and vice versa, in a circus-like freak show.
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u/ExactDevelopment4892 2d ago
So does that mean single, unmarried men in their 30s are also bad role models?
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u/blackandtangoose 2d ago
Right? Where is the article about unmarried, childless Travis Kelce being a shit role model?
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u/baronesslucy 2d ago
A issue was made of Taylor Swift dating several different men in a couple of years. The author or the article didn't made an issue of men celeb who I'm sure have dated or slept with several women over the course of a couple of years.
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u/KnightofShaftsbury 2d ago
Don't know about all men in their 30s, but I definitely know I am
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u/Immediate_Towel3579 2d ago
I ain't a swiftie but this is by far the worst article I have read in a while
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u/Big-Improvement-1281 2d ago
Like there are a ton of reasons I donāt think sheās a great role model (most celebrities arenāt and thatās fine) but this isnāt one of them
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u/Feminazghul 2d ago
"Unrepentantly single and childless billionaire Taylor Swift started her songwriting career in her teens. She is probably a witch and certainly a bad role model for impressionable girls who should be waiting for their fathers to marry them off to a mature man who can care for them. For example, a man who writes opinion pieces in Newsweek. Also, I can't stop cranking it over pictures of her and that's entirely her fault."
Keep reducing women to a reproductive function, assholes.
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u/DharcDaniel 2d ago
Honestly, it's better to not bring up a child in Hollywood in today's age. So many freaks and weirdos in the industry who would love to do absolutely deplorable things to them. That, and most kids aren't built for that much exposure/popularity. A big reason why a lot of child actors turn into messes in their early 20s.
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u/Thowitawaydave 2d ago
You know who else doesn't have kids? Dolly Parton, and she's a goddamn treasure.
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u/femwithcrown 2d ago
I would guess that he doesn't like Dolly either. So really we should not care about a single word written by a douche like that
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u/barleyoatnutmeg 2d ago
Based off a comment from someone else who said the quthor of the article is a trump supporter, a better example would be what he thinks of Laura Ingraham from Fox news who doesn't have any biological children and is not married
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u/The-Doggy-Daddy-5814 2d ago
Me: A 34 year old woman who is married, has children and is a stay at home mother is a good role model?
Them: Yes.
Me: Iād like you to meet my lesbian friend who fits your requirements.
Them: Wait. Thatās not what I meant.
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u/MindlessApple845 2d ago
Hey, itās 2024.
*proceeds to write the most socially conservative, backwards article for no reason other than to push a patriarchal narrative for the sake of no one other than themselves.
Fuck THIS GUY
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u/Mattdude311 2d ago
Corporate America needs you to have those children!! š°š°š°š°š°
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u/FoxyInTheSnow 2d ago
What the fuck, Newsweek?
I donāt think sheās a particularly great role model either, but you really shouldnāt be attacking women for not getting married and popping out babiesā¦
ā¦ oh, MacGhlionn is a āfamily valuesā advocate who writes for Epoch Times.
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u/RoughDirection8875 2d ago
Nobody ever said shit like this about Betty White and she was definitely someone to look up to. And what about Dolly Parton? She has no kids, yet she is what I would consider an amazing role model.
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u/eatmyfatwhiteass 2d ago
That's because other people tried in interviews and got raked over the coals with class. They weren't women to fuck around with.
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u/brought2light 2d ago
They attacked Dolly last week.
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u/RoughDirection8875 2d ago
Oh shit, I hadn't seen that. Well I'm sure they got torn to shreds on the internet for that, at least I hope so.
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u/VanderHoo 2d ago
Source Article: Thereās Nothing Loving About Dolly Partonās False Gospel
TL;DR Jesus does not agree with "love everybody the same". Jesus clearly hates gay people, abortion, and anyone that normalizes the existence of such. Dolly also doesn't praise Trump - Jesus says that's a red flag.
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u/Hero-myth 2d ago
Remember when Jesus got married and had all of those kids?
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u/Connect_Cap_8548 2d ago
Excuse me, I do not appreciate you disrespecting my Lord and Savior by leaving out the part where he gave his sons machine guns and told them to always vote conservative. /s
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u/ScottdaDM 2d ago
"If your kid needs a role model, and you ain't it, you're both fucked."
---George Carlin
As true now as the day he said it.
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u/thethirdbestmike 2d ago
In his next column, he will write how Trump is a role model. You know, the guy with 34 felonies and loves raping kids.
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u/itsapotatosalad 2d ago
The example she sets is āyouāre not a baby machine, you can be your own personā and this drives right wingers insane.
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u/Icy-Needleworker-492 2d ago
Taylor funds a food bank for a year, in every city where she performs.
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u/Domino_Dare-Doll 2d ago
The example thatā¦a woman can do what she loves and be successful for it while enjoying the freedom to just be herself?
The horrorā¦?
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u/ProMedicineProAbort 2d ago
Ah yes, the "a female is nothing, has no value and should not be looked up to if there is no man to manage her or children to define her."
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u/TurangaLeela78 2d ago
And yet she is a gazzillionaire with infinity awards and endless fans and can do basically whatever the hell she wants. Chick is winning and people hate it. Maybe she doesnāt WANT to be married or have kids yet or ever. So?
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u/nihodol326 2d ago
Well women living the life they want and not being birth machines is bad for scociety because reasons.
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u/ConstantParticular89 2d ago
Also what about all the highly influential male celebrities who date around (Leo DiCaprio) or cheat on their wives (Jay-Z)? Itās only a problem when a woman does it? šThe author can go find a short walk off a long cliff. As a man, start with cleaning up your own house.
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u/Individual_Ad9632 2d ago
The example that girls and women can live their dreams even if those dreams donāt revolve around a husband and family?
Good.
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u/purplegladys2022 2d ago
"Taylor Swift, self made billionaire before the young age of 34, complete failure on life because no ring and no babies."
The patriarchy is jealous.
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u/mysticdragonwolf89 2d ago
At 34, Swift has a job, has a steady income, has supportive parents, has expressed her views as freely as any can in America, voted, promoted voting, has made her own choices, and is a supportive partner to her SO.
Perfect role model.
What this author hates is that she isnāt a baby factory and/or married.
But being married isnāt really the issue ā itās that Swift is a strong independent influential woman who promotes voting and that is what the author is angry about, much like all the rest of the right.
She isnāt in the kitchen like a traditional woman, nor subservient to a male like a traditional woman, or keeping her mouth shut like a traditional woman
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u/leese216 2d ago
Fewer things scare uber conservative men more than a successful, content, happy, woman who is unmarried and childless.
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u/Borsti17 2d ago
Got stinking rich doing something she loves. Happy relationship. Gives back to the community.
Truly awful, that.
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u/Little_Assistant_551 2d ago
Ofcourse a successfull woman is a bad role model because she didn't pop a buch of kids, how are we supposed to confince girls that the only thing they are good for stayimg ome serving the man? /s
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u/Feminazghul 2d ago
And don't hold your breath for the article deriding unmarried and childless Travis Kelce for failing to get hitched and make some babies.
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u/baronesslucy 2d ago
If you notice, only women are attacked. This author doesn't seem to attack men who don't marry or don't have children.
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u/Happy-Initiative-838 2d ago
Remember when Newsweek was a respected source of information?
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u/chalky87 2d ago
Or, and hear me out, achieving a huge amount of success in your career, being financially independent and financially smart, helping others and working hard is a fantastic role model for young people regardless of relationship or parenthood.
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u/Different-Island1871 2d ago
Their predilection towards cult behaviour is showing. Taylor Swift is a fine role model, but these people seem to not understand that you can have more than 1 role model. If you just religiously follow a single personās example, you are in a cult.
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u/Shot_Try4596 2d ago
Whose example are they following? Seems to me the persons that conservatives like this revere are either the biggest hypocrites to their claimed values or whose teachings are in direct opposition to what they do and say.
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u/Feffies_Cottage 2d ago
Women are not brood mares.
What is just as disturbing as the a handmaid-tale like article, is that it was published in Newsweek.
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u/Kooky-Chair7652 2d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/BritishSuccess/s/xZIwHXNawa. Yeah sheās a real bad person huh? /s.
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u/alephthirteen 2d ago
The religious weirdos are loose again...
Who the fuck left the cage open?
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u/NoeTellusom 2d ago
Turns out not using fact checkers anymore has turned Newsweek into a right wing shill site.
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u/Aldevo_oved 2d ago
NOOOO YOUNG GIRLS SHOULDNT WANT TO BE TALENTED AND RICH THEY SHOULD BE GIVING BIRTH
bruh
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u/Pcaccount1234 2d ago
Her being unmarried and childless does make her a role model imo. Women are constantly forced or brainwashed into rushing into marriage and motherhood when many times it's not their cup of tea
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u/Wise_Carrot_457 2d ago
So the chick I went to high school with that got pregnant at 15 and by the age of 25 had 3 kids with 3 different guys and married a 4th guy sheās pregnant with 4 months after meeting him is a good role model?
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u/TheWeenieBandit 2d ago
What example does it set? Oh nooo, my daughter might realize you can be rich and famous and successful without ever relying on a man to get you there, oh nooooo
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u/InsertMoreCoffee 2d ago
Lmao "unmarried and childless" at 34 is like half of the Millenial Generation, and a lot of us prefer it that way.
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u/nobody546818 2d ago
You have to be mentally ill to look at Taylor Swift and say āohhhh so close, self made billionaire in your thirties, globally renowned celebrity, doing what you love for a living and in what I assume is good health and a happy relationship. BUT YOU DIDNT HAVE KIDS INSTEAD, FAILā
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u/darth_voidptr 2d ago
If my kids are single and childless at 34, I will be too focused on whether they are happy and financially independent to care.
But my teenage kids donāt care about taylor swift, sheās too old. Thatās the brutal truth of that biz.
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u/Lifesalchemy 2d ago
Yes. You must get hitched and shit out kids to be a real adult woman. Good god.
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u/Dreams_From_Beyond 2d ago
She's not supposed to be a role model. She's an entertainer and nothing more.
I'm also curious as to who he's voting for and if he's religious, because a lot of crazy "women are meant to birth children and nothing more" are usually the whackadoo Christians who support Trump and the abortion bans.
I'm willing to bet $100 the "journalist" who wrote this thinks Trump is a great role model.
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u/Seraphiem93 2d ago
The self-made billionaire isn't a good role model because no baby. Worst take of the year
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u/onlyletmeposttrains 2d ago
I agree with the headline, but only because she holds unfair grudges until the bitter end and has a carbon footprint the size of Montana, criticizing her for being childless and unmarried at 34 is gigastupid
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u/EmperorGrinnar 2d ago
Who is the author of this article? Stefan Molyneux?
That guy is obsessed with her ovaries, despite having a wife and kids of his own to be concerned about.
Edit: nope. It's written by John Mac Ghlionn. A name I've never seen before. Dude is weird.
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u/livvylavidaloca10042 2d ago
Iām not a Swiftie by any stretch of the imagination but I will ALWAYS defend her in this department. Getting married, having kids, etc. is (or at least it should be!) a choice; if thatās not something sheās choosing right now, then thatās her decision. Itās not something she NEEDS to do now or ever.
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Crazy. Thereās actual things you could argue makes her not a great role model, like how she uses her private jet so much which causes a shit ton of pollution, but this? Shes actually a strong independent woman which seems like a great role model imo, and I say this as a big Swift hater
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u/bunkscudda 2d ago
It always amazes me how many people believe that gender is binary, while simultaneously having a list of requirements that women must conform to in order to be considered āreal womenā
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u/baronesslucy 2d ago
Why would you even care whether Taylor Swift has children. She is criticized for dating several men over the course of a couple of years, but how many celeb men have dated or slept with numerous women in the course of a couple of years.
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u/Peligreaux 2d ago
Complete load of crap. Has whoever wrote this opinion ever expressed the same thing about a man?
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u/AlwaysOutsider 2d ago
āAt 34 Swift remains unmarried and childlessā Letās just not mention the fact that sheās a millionaire, aside from the the private jet problem sheās a pretty okay role model isnāt she?
-Not a swiftie
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u/x271815 2d ago
Are we seriously having this discussion in 2024? And that too about someone as talented as Taylor Swift?
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u/mfs619 2d ago
Meanwhile she is a model, country music star, pop star, self made billionaire, happens to be dating down when sheās dating a future NFL hall of fameār, is still friends with her high school friends despite becoming famous, and has donated hundreds of millions to charity. ā¦..Yea sheās a terrible choice as a role model bc she isnāt interested in children or marriage right now.
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u/brechbillc1 2d ago
āTaylor Swift is not a good role modelā¦ā
Agreed, thereās quite a few good reasons as to whyā¦
āBecause she is unmarried and doesnāt have kids!ā
And you were so close, yet so far.
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u/Upper_Guarantee_4588 2d ago
I suppose a first lady who used to be a Hooker would be better, right?
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u/Monster-Leg 2d ago
Swift sucks for a lot of reasons but being unmarried and childless at 34 aināt it
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u/SSSims4 2d ago
TS is more successful than that excuse for a person writing this crap will be in 10 lifetimes. Just like going through with pregnancies or having sex with someone - marriage and children are a choice. Women get to choose for themselves outside of incest Trumpanzee communities.
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