r/XboxSeriesX Nov 20 '23

Starfield is still being worked on by 250 Bethesda devs Discussion

https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/bethesda-team
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u/DanOfRivia Nov 20 '23

There’s a reason Bethesda’s become a giant in gaming.

Yes, their old masterpieces.

They have a specific storytelling

Being honest, their storytelling feels very outdated by now, even old trilogies like Mass Effect and Bioshock had a storytelling that has aged far better; not to mention TW3, RDR2 and just recently Baldur's Gate 3.

something about Bethesda games just makes them unreplaceable(?)

"something" is called nostalgia.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '23

I never played a Bethesda game before this year. Somehow, even without nostalgia playing a role I really enjoyed Starfield! Once again begging, pleading, extremely online gamers to realize that their subjective tastes are just that and not a reflection of a game’s objective quality.

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u/GoodApplication Nov 20 '23

Admittedly — and I genuinely mean no disrespect — you not having played any Bethesda games means you don’t have a point of reference for their style and don’t have experience with some of the best open-world RPG games ever made. A la, you don’t necessarily have enough experience with the genre at large to be annoyed at long term fans.

Starfield, like Hogwarts Legacy, is geared more towards casual, inexperienced gamers — which creates a more shallow, simplified, or washed out experience. It’s why both of those games are good, but they’re not great.

Starfield deserved to be a masterpiece, and it falls well short. It’s disappointing.

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u/RomanDelvius Nov 21 '23

I've played most of Bethesda's games and I love Starfield as much as all their other games.

Please -- and I genuinely mean no disrespect -- don't speak for all of us.

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u/GoodApplication Nov 29 '23

You’re allowed to! I love it too, honestly. Erhm, at least, I will once mods fix it.

But it doesn’t change the fact that it is a relatively shallow story experience with very hit-or-miss game mechanics, relatively stale design, and somewhat poor graphics for a new release.

Comparing it to other Bethesda games, the Mass Effect trilogy (!!), the old Star Wars KOTOR series, RDR1/2, Cyberpunk 2077, the Witcher series, etc makes this plain to see from an objective analysis.

I do still enjoy the game, but it fell well short of what it could or should have been. It’s simply a solid 7/10. And that’s disappointing.

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u/RomanDelvius Nov 30 '23

I don't agree with you, because those games set out to accomplish very different things from Starfield. I won't rag on RDR1/2, CP2077 etc. for being grim, gritty universes that make me feel sad and fearful of life. I prefer the hopeful and optimistic universe of Starfield. I also don't think Starfield's gameplay is shallow at all, at least, not in the ways that matter to me.