r/NYKnicks • u/UnbiasedNBAFan_ • 16d ago

[Windhorst] OG Anunoby is not ‘thrilled’ with the Knicks’ current offer and will test the market: “Let’s keep an eye on that. Most people believe he will stay with New York, but there have been indications he may want to test the market, because he’s not thrilled with what the Knicks are offering.”

https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1803103077999800398?s=46
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u/Dependent_Store952 16d ago

We’ll end up paying him

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u/zOmgFishes 16d ago

Yea I don't see a world where they don't pay him. They gave up their two best young asset for him. Those two guys would have combined to make 50+ mil annually anyways. He's getting his money.

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

He’s extremely injury prone and the salary cap makes the Knicks very cautious about giving big payouts plus Brunson has to get paid and Ihart and Mitch is already cutting it close. Very likely he walks and we go free agency or trade

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u/ygog45 16d ago

Very likely he walks and we go free agency or trade

We have no cap space and S&Ts are rare. If he walks we are absolutely screwed

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

I know he has in impact but if we get half a season and half playoff run with him how far are we really going, the FO is probably considering health of players more than ever right now because of how many injuries we just had. It makes sense that they’d build around a healthier roster this time around, I’m not saying the Knicks don’t want OG but I do think his value as a Knick took a dive.

Especially when you consider that if we were healthy we could have made it to the finals potentially, wouldn’t make sense for to make the same mistake again and push for injury prone players

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u/Ok-Side-1758 16d ago

So who are we getting to replace him? We traded our best young assets for him. Skimping on paying him would be an idiotic move and cripple our title chances

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

That’s for the FO to figure out but I can totally seeing them finding a player with slightly lower defense and slightly better offense but much healthier overall. Take the hit a bit in defense for a more consistent player

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u/Ok-Side-1758 16d ago

Which player lol. Are they just going to conjure up this made up player you created out of thin air. And the player you said sounds like a player that every team in the league would want so how would we even get them without dumping assets

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

Again that’s for the front office, I’m simply saying how they are most likely thinking. I doubt they are going to throw MORE money at a player that simply doesn’t play. And I can’t answer that because we still don’t even know what players are available,

how many times has us as Knicks fans said “man if only ___ could stay healthy”?

There’s no way we come off a playoff series with 7 injuries and expect to Front Office to not even consider health as a major factor.

TONS of great players in the league are skipped over because they can’t stay healthy, 76ers was a Playin team because they couldn’t stay healthy, and as great as Embiid is if they wanted to trade him, his health would be a major factor.

Same with OG, if we resign him, and his health gets worse we’ll have to trade him anyway and get even less for him, or worse be stuck with an expensive contract for a player we KNEW was injury prone and might regress to unplayable

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u/CornCobb890 16d ago

OG has played in 418 of 544 games in his career. OG averages 3 more games played than the average nba starter per season. Injuries are part of the game now. There are very few players who average 70+ games/year. There are some injury concerns but the Knicks are not going to let a restricted free agent walk, making their available max cap space go down by ~$40m and make any mid season trade for a star infinitely more difficult.

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

You’re Greatly fluffing the Numbers

https://preview.redd.it/aayfgrd7dd7d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93729ce40bf5bf4e9d2a4e159b17054c48367f09

The past 5 seasons he’s number have NEVER been over 70 and 3 of those five are 50 and under

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u/CornCobb890 16d ago edited 16d ago

How did I “fluff the numbers” when I posted the exact number he played and missed. You seem to be forgetting that 1 of his sub 50 game years is the Covid year as well.

Also, “The 57-page report emphasized the fluctuation between star players missing games. Between the 1990s to today, the average number of games missed per season by those defined as star players rose considerably. In the '90s, it was 10.6 games. In the 2020s, it's 23.9 games.”

https://www.nba.com/news/nba-sends-data-load-management-study#:~:text=The%2057-page%20report%20emphasized,the%202020s%2C%20it's%2023.9%20games.

Star players average 58 games played per season. No one is denying there are injury concerns but OG is completely average when it comes to injury proneness.

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

Because you’re making it sound like he’s above average in games, when the avg is around 65 , You even said he’s above average in games played, when the last 5 is an average of 55. Also this number doesn’t account for perfectly fine players sitting out games because they are saving them among other not injury related games missed.

What you should look at is how he is trending and how he is progressing lower overall

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u/Ok-Side-1758 16d ago

Name one near max or max player that his team let go in fa because he couldn’t stay healthy.

Kawhi literally just got the max from the Clippers and hasn’t had a healthy postseason in 3 years

What you think about the front office is 100% wrong. There is no way that Rose is thinking of letting OG go. They knew about his injury history when they decided to trade for him so a half a season isn’t changing that.

Injuries are a factor for every team. Celtics have KP, Nuggets have MPJ, Lakers have AD, etc.

Letting OG go when your son is his agent would be a whole different level of embarrassment for Leon and he isn’t going to let that happen

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u/LISparky25 15d ago

KP is a different level of injury prone, let’s be real here, did they NEED him to win a chip ?…def not imo but it was a luxury they could afford. Ain’t no way a team is taking a flyer on KP that isn’t already a stacked team.

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u/Ok-Side-1758 14d ago

He’s still on their salary cap and they are a second apron team because of it so I don’t get what you are saying. This is even more reason why we should pay OG

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u/Dependent_Store952 16d ago

Yeah but without OG we wouldn’t have made it out the first round. Pick your poison.

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u/CaroleBaskinsBurner 16d ago

We would have been in the play-in without OG.

We were I think 13-14 in games without OG and Randle. Going 8-1 with OG in the games after Randle got hurt is the only thing that kept us afloat. Especially going 5-1 to close the season after he came back for good. That's what catapulted us into the 2-seed.

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

We’ve made it past the first round without OG before

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u/therealjgreens 33 16d ago

We won 2 titles without OG...or any player on the team being alive

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u/Dependent_Store952 16d ago

OG raises our ceiling significantly. There’s no better option at this point in time and we’d be extremely stupid to let him walk.

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u/KERNALxXxSANDERS 16d ago

Very naive statement lol your mothers made it past the first round with me and boys but that’s not the point either

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

We literally made the same progress as 2022-23 season without OG what are you talking about?

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u/zOmgFishes 16d ago

I mean we traded some of the guys who helped us get past the first round for OG. They need to retain OG because IQ and RJ are no longer there AND they don't have a replacement if OG walks/

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

Rj and IQ we’re leaving regardless, RJ was terrible here and IQ wanted a bigger role

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u/zOmgFishes 16d ago

I mean yes. We need to pay OG because we gave both up and their salaries were going to combined for 50 mil regardless.

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u/KERNALxXxSANDERS 16d ago

We got basically swept with a FULLY healthy roster in 2023. We would have made it conference finals and possibly further with a FULLY healthy roster this year. How is that the same progress? You arnt worth arguing with, don’t watch basketball, are not a real fan.

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u/jiabivy 16d ago

Randle was injured, our second best player (and 1st best at the time)

We were still a second round exit, that’s quite literally the same progression

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u/RogueID 12d ago

You guys are a finals-level team with OG. Your net rating with him is nearly as high as the Celtics. Without him, this team is a middle of the pack playoff team. OG is very injury prone, but players like him are very rare and coveted. You're more likely to trade Mitch or IHart to free up money to keep OG than to lose OG. He's getting paid.