r/politics • u/bustersnuggs5011 Pueblo • 4d ago

Biden’s Family Tells Him to Keep Fighting as They Huddle at Camp David Soft Paywall

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/30/us/politics/biden-debate-anxious-democrats.html
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u/cmnrdt 4d ago

Guess what: anyone voting for Trump was going to vote for him regardless of who the other guy is. Which is more difficult, Trump convincing his supporters to switch their target, or Democrats convincing their entire base to get behind a completely new candidate less than 5 months before the election when most primary votes have already been cast?

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u/tripping_on_phonics Illinois 4d ago

Democrats’ entire base is already motivated to vote against Trump. The key demographic that your comment omits is independents who will most likely not vote for Trump, but will be quite likely to stay home or vote for a third party.

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u/barowsr 4d ago

Ding ding ding.

90% of the electorate is already set. About half are voting for Trump, period. Half are voting against Trump, period. It doesn’t matter if it’s Biden, Whitimer, Harris, Mickey fucking Mouse.

It’s that 10% that’s trying to decide who they will vote for, or if they’ll stay home. And news flash, we need 6-7% of those 10% to vote Dem. The question is will that 6-7% be more motivated to choose Biden, or Whitmer? Or Newsome? Or any other of the other 5-6 big name Dems?

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u/saypsychpod 4d ago

I agree except for Harris who polls extremely poorly

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u/mrpeabody208 Texas 4d ago

And I'm not sure Mickey Mouse is a Democrat.

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u/MechanicalTurkish Minnesota 4d ago

If you are a Scottish lord then I am Mickey Mouse!!

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u/Spiff76 3d ago

“How Dare He!” dramatic pause, fourth wall break, punch sound effect

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u/TheCwazyWabbit 4d ago

I watched him on South Park, he's gotta be a fascist.

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u/barowsr 4d ago

Even she was within same % gap as Trump in last data for progress poll. But nonetheless, of the eight-ish possible alternatives, she’s probably the weakest

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u/SkyriderRJM 4d ago

It is very possible Harris polls a lot better with Biden as her alternative.

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u/hintofinsanity 3d ago

She currently polls better than Biden

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u/NeonArlecchino California 3d ago

I am not a fan of hers, but I think she could do it if she paired with a progressive VP. Jamaal Bowman is looking for a job and selecting him would send a message about standing for progress and against foreign election interference.

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u/GoBackToLurk1ng 3d ago

Get rid of Kamala and get the successor in as VP. Obama what you up to these days?