r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 • 6d ago

'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/BLF402 6d ago

If you go back and watch the debate last night Biden was more on point when it comes to the platform whereas trump was just spewing nonsense lies and self congratulatory rhetoric.

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u/jmcgit Connecticut 6d ago

Sure, but that’s not going to help him. You don’t win debates by being right, you win them by being persuasive.

Nobody expected Trump to go out there and tell the truth, but they hoped Biden would be able to expose his lies to a national audience and make him look like the clown that he is. If Biden can’t do that, it’d be nice if the candidate was someone who can.

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u/snorin 6d ago

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. How is Trump saying the same thing over again no matter the question persuasive. He just repeats I'm the best, no one has seen someone as great as me before. Biden is bad. He had nothing to say the entire time. I don't get how that is persuasive.

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u/FairPudding40 6d ago

I completely agree, but I feel like that after most of these debates (people really seem to think the yeller is the winner and I do not get it -- who wants a president who yells at everyone?!)

Fortunately, as results start to trickle in, it turns out an awful lot of on-the-fence republicans think Biden did much better than they expected and are feeling a bit better about voting for him now that they saw for themselves that he's fine.

Anecdotally, I've been shocked by how many people in my circle who are anti Trump but were not going to vote for Biden have texted me and said, "You were right, he's fine." He's a quiet, kind man who's a talented politician -- we could do a heck of a lot worse for president.

And Biden didn't need help getting off stage after the whole shebang was over (Trump did).