r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 • 4d ago

'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/essidus Minnesota 4d ago

The problem is that, right now, all of America believes that the Joe Biden we saw last night is an accurate reflection of how he is normally. If that's the case, we're in trouble.

Some people are saying that Biden has a cold or something. That might be (though it still doesn't reflect well on his cognitive function), but if that's true, Biden is going to prove it hard. He's going to need another extended public session showing how effective he really is. Otherwise, this debate is going to haunt him all the way up to the election.

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u/MrEHam 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yeah I agree. Here’s what I hope they’re considering:

  1. ⁠Run a bunch of ads that show Biden speaking clearly and forcefully to get that into everyone’s consciousness.

  2. ⁠Prep him for the next debate with a few key points to consistently hammer Trump on. Don’t worry about any stats or names that can trip up anyone regardless of age. Hardly anyone answers the questions perfectly anyways. He needs ZINGERS. And he needs to practice them daily until the next debate.

  3. Get Kamala some carefully crafted good exposure. Sticking up for Biden. Reassure people that she will step up if necessary.

Here’s what I hope everyone else is considering.

  1. ⁠Trump is a felon and he’s about to be sentenced.

  2. ⁠He tried to overthrow democracy and is unapologetic.

  3. ⁠Climate change is a serious threat that the republicans will accelerate if they win.

  4. ⁠The Supreme Court will be even more one-sided and we can say goodbye to abortions, birth control, gun control, and any protections for minority groups.

  5. ⁠I really hope we don’t have another pandemic because Trump screwed up the last one and everyone paid for it.

  6. ⁠Biden has four years of decades-high great results and had a great State of the Union address. He has an amazing team around him. That’s what matters. Get over a bad night where he stumbled on a dozen words.

Everyone should watch his fiery and well-spoken speech from today. It will make you feel a lot better about last night.

https://youtu.be/s5CVZHAjrW8?si=IDSZz7kgFHaTy_iq

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u/sharp11flat13 Canada 4d ago

Everyone should watch his fiery and well-spoken speech from today. It will make you feel a lot better about last night. https://youtu.be/s5CVZHAjrW8?si=IDSZz7kgFHaTy_iq

This is the Joe Biden I expected to see last night. Please everyone, share and post this video everywhere.

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u/felinedancesyndrome 4d ago edited 4d ago

This Biden is def a little better. But the lighting on him in this speech is much better than the lighting that washed out the top half of his face during the debate. It made him look even more half dead.

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u/SpaceTimeinFlux 4d ago

The CNN lighting was fucking atrocious.

Just like most of the shit that CNN cobbles together.

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u/WoodPear 4d ago

It was the Biden team that demanded CNN (and ABC) host the debate though.

They should have said something if they were unsatisfied with the lighting.

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u/cryptogram 3d ago

Yea but that’s also a Joe Biden with a teleprompter,  not required to think on his own or on his feet, and with no pressure. 

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u/sharp11flat13 Canada 3d ago

True. But even recently I’ve seen him speak clearly and rationally on the issues extemporaneously and he was fine. In fact his answers reflected a cool head and years of experience in administrative affairs.

I’m not saying there’s nothing to be concerned about here, only that since last night is not the norm, how anomalous is it and how might things progress, if they do?

I also think this

But I’d still support a potted plant over Trump.

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u/Rifledcondor 4d ago

Oh you mean when he was using a teleprompter and didn’t have to think about what he was saying?

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u/TheDude2600 4d ago

(Gets teleprompter back) (Still mumbles and stutters)

Ah yes guys I feel so much better!

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u/automaticfiend1 4d ago

If there's anything to hit Biden on the stutter we've all known he's had for 80 years isn't it.

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u/TheDude2600 4d ago

You're right.

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u/bonerdrag 4d ago

It’s evidence that he’s maybe not seconds away from death which to me is pretty reassuring 

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u/wobble_dobble 4d ago

When Putin escalates the war or China invades Taiwan, I guess we´ll just have to hope Biden is having a good and lucid day.