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'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/essidus Minnesota 4d ago

The problem is that, right now, all of America believes that the Joe Biden we saw last night is an accurate reflection of how he is normally. If that's the case, we're in trouble.

Some people are saying that Biden has a cold or something. That might be (though it still doesn't reflect well on his cognitive function), but if that's true, Biden is going to prove it hard. He's going to need another extended public session showing how effective he really is. Otherwise, this debate is going to haunt him all the way up to the election.

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u/ReddittorMan 4d ago

That is what Biden is like without a teleprompter.

It is an accurate representation of how he communicates.

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u/darito0123 4d ago

It was biden on a week's rest and the most expensive prep money can buy, they built a replica stage and everything if reports are true

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u/MoodAlternative2118 4d ago

Exactly, this was supposed to be the best Biden could possibly look and what we got was terrible.

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u/bytethesquirrel New Hampshire 4d ago

It was biden on a week's rest

And getting a cold right before the big night.

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u/WretchedHog 4d ago

That is a pathetic excuse

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u/mostuselessredditor 4d ago

And then going to Waffle House?

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u/darito0123 4d ago

A cold doesn't explain almost all of what we saw

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u/craftymethod 4d ago

Its like he kept stopping himself from coughing and 3/4 of his vocal chords checked out of the building.

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u/bytethesquirrel New Hampshire 4d ago

https://youtu.be/HYghfyxtZnc?t=601

Looks like he's recovered.

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u/darito0123 4d ago

I think it's the difference between a teleprompter vs on your toes debate but I hope I am wrong

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u/fcocyclone Iowa 4d ago

The thing is, he was fine with the 'on your toes' stuff.

He honestly looked worst when he was trying to do the prepared stuff. Like he'd kind of hit his stride in the second half of the debate, but then the closing statements came and he was back to getting bogged down in details.

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u/bytethesquirrel New Hampshire 4d ago

if hes incapable of holding a train of thought, he can't follow a teleprompter.

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u/Cuchullion 4d ago

Case in point: Trump, who goes "off prompt" to ramble all the time.

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u/sideAccount42 California 4d ago

A cold after a week of isolation and then recovery in a day? Has he just had a ton of micro colds these last few years as well?

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u/fcocyclone Iowa 4d ago

Colds happen. They hit the elderly harder.

This is one of many reasons why there should be a maximum age on this job.

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u/SHlT-MY-PANTS 4d ago

He felt well enough to go out to a waffle house after and meet with people. If youre truly sick you're not doing that.

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u/MattTheRadarTechh 3d ago

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u/ReddittorMan 3d ago

Striking difference of a teleprompted speech with crowd support vs the debate.

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u/MattTheRadarTechh 3d ago

And how did the teleprompter do his on the spot crowd work?

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u/ReddittorMan 3d ago

Probably said something like [wait for applause] what’s your point?