r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 • 4d ago

'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/NanoDaMan 4d ago

He forgot to mention his opponent was a TV grifter who didn't really live in PA. We didn't have many options in PA.

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u/jmcgit Connecticut 4d ago

Biden's opponent is a TV grifter too

Though frankly that's probably the only reason Biden still has a chance

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u/NanoDaMan 4d ago

This is true. I voted for Fetterman because he lived in PA. I wasn't voting for an outsider. So did many others, regardless of his views.

My point was that this is not a strong argument, because the scenario was very different.

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u/palm0 4d ago

Trump is a TV grifter that all but admitted during the debate that he is a Russian asset. He told us that Putin told him that he wanted to invade Ukraine and that he could get Putin to end the war before he took office of he were elected. So either another set of bullshit lies or admitting to collusion with Russia.

He also runs in a platform of being a person of the people but he was born into extreme wealth and has perpetuated his own wealth through criminal activities both before, during, and after his presidency.

He's also a convicted fucking felon carpetbagger.

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u/palm0 4d ago

You changed your argument from "his opponent was a TV grifter that didn't really live in PA" to "there were no other options."

But even though you're arguing in bad faith be calling my examples of parallels between Trump and Oz I'll pretend you argent. And point out that thanks to our two party system, there are no other options in the US Presidential race.

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u/Proper_Caterpillar22 4d ago

My feeling that his idea of ending the war involves sending many armed forces into Ukraine, to seize it.

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u/palm0 4d ago

He couldn't do that before taking office. So again it's either just another bushit lie or an admission that he is basically Putin's puppet and Putin is extorting the US to elect Trump.

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u/Proper_Caterpillar22 4d ago

My cynic thought was that if trump wins, Putin backs out and Trump sweeps in and gives it to him next year.

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u/biaggio 4d ago

Yes. The scenario was different, and the stakes are certainly very different.

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u/TreebeardsMustache 4d ago

A TV grifter who ought to be ruled ineligible by a straight reading of the law? Who does that describe? Fettermans opponent or Bidens?

Sounds like an exactly similar situation to me

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u/In_Formaldehyde_ 4d ago

No, it's not the same situation. FFS this sub is something else.

Mehmet Oz is closer to a Vivek than he is to a Trump. He has nowhere near the appeal of the latter to the Republican voting base. Fetterman winning against Oz signifies absolutely nothing about the upcoming election.

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u/jaymcbang 4d ago edited 4d ago

And being a Russian asset, Trump is also an “outsider”.

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u/emotions1026 4d ago

The difference is that literally no one liked Dr. Oz while Trump has his own cult. I personally think any conventional Republican who happened to live in PA and didn't make that ridiculous grocery shopping video could have defeated Fetterman.

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u/Jorge_Santos69 4d ago

Lol Trump does and says way more stupid hit than Dr Oz on the regular

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u/emotions1026 3d ago

Yes he does, and he gets away with it because as I said in first post he's a cult leader. Dr. Oz's stupid statements actually backfired on him because people don't like him.