r/politics • u/croato87 • 4d ago

America Lost the First Biden-Trump Debate Soft Paywall

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/america-lost-first-biden-trump-debate-1235048539/
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u/xman747x 4d ago

"The debate continued, of course. And, in fairness, Biden slowly picked himself up off the mat and began to steady his performance. Fortunately for Biden, Donald Trump was not landing haymakers. In fact, the 45th president repeatedly exposed his own weak chin, digressing — if more energetically than Biden — into bouts of verbal diarrhea, as when he said of Biden: “He’s become like a Palestinian. But they don’t like him because he’s a very bad Palestinian.” Or when he alleged of Biden, nonsensically: “He’s the one to kill people with the bad water including hundreds of thousands of people dying.” Trump, also flashed menace, pushing dark lies about Democrats seeking to murder babies “after birth,” while making bizarre claims about his environmental record: “We had H2O, we had the best numbers ever.”

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u/The_River_Is_Still 4d ago

He speaks his bullshit and complete nonsense confidently, that’s who I want running the country!

Never mind the absolute sacks of shit he’d have in his cabinet. Biden might be old, but he surrounds himself with people who have education and experience in area they’re assigned to.

Trump is a vile lowlife. One of the worst people in the public eye in history, in my opinion. He’s fucking disgusting and history is going to tear apart this timeline and how we let it get this far.

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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES 4d ago

It’s ridiculous that people act like the only thing keeping Trump back is political prejudice from the left. The dude has been famous my whole life, specifically for lying, being manipulative, and just being an overall bag of shit. He has never done anything worth celebrating. There’s nothing political about it, I wouldn’t want the guy running a hot dog stand either and I certainly wouldn’t eat from one he was working at.

I don’t care how much energy Biden shows during a debate. I don’t care how he talks or that he stutters. He’s still more capable than the other option. I would trust him to run a hot dog stand at least.

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u/Alarmed_Trip_8492 3d ago

not 'famous', 'infamous'.

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u/Acrobatic_Rate_9377 4d ago

nothing is holding trump back. he was the apex of power and will be again

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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES 4d ago

He’s such an alpha male

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u/relator_fabula 4d ago

Not enough people understand this. The President does not run the country, and a good President does not try to run the country. A good President listens, delegates, and surrounds himself with a lot of experienced, qualified people who can help run the executive branch. This is what Biden has done with empathy and compassion, with a genuine intent to help everyone in this country.

Trump is a lying cheating sack of pus who surrounds himself with yes men, opportunists, and fascists. He will hurt anyone to boost his ego, to get revenge, or simple because he likes it.

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u/Justdoingthebestican 4d ago

Too many Americans can’t even explain how a bill becomes law. If they can’t explain that, they have no understanding of the limits of a president and what they can and can’t do

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u/wirefox1 4d ago

I wanted to scream when he said Biden is the worst president ever. More of his vile projection. Anybody with half a brain knows who is the worse president ever, starting with which one tried to overthrow democracy in his own country?

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u/xman747x 4d ago

amen!!!

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u/The_River_Is_Still 4d ago

I’m so tired of ‘But Trump speaks so confidently…” lol, who gives a fuck? He can be fact checked in seconds. He’s a fucking joke and it’s insane he can even run with 34 god damn felonies. That tells you all you need to know about the Republican Party.

If that was a Democrat with a speeding ticket they’d never let him run. They’d find a way to have him removed… and that infuriates me. And it infuriates me more that the GOP has the support of some regular people who are too fucking ignorant to see they’re getting fucked over as well.

It’s like the adults have to come out in force just to make sure the children don’t put a known criminal and Russian asset back into the White House because it would be the death of this country.

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u/Pulsar1977 4d ago

who gives a fuck?

Lots and lots of people. It's the sad reality of politics: many (perhaps most?) people care more about confidence and charisma than facts and competence. Welcome to the world. It sucks.

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u/professorwormb0g 4d ago

Seriously. Most people have a poor handle on public policy issues and they don't believe either candidate and do not know how to find objective information nor do they want to invest the time to educate themselves. So they literally go by who looks and sounds the best.

People are superficial and decide things for aesthetic properties all the time.

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u/Pulsar1977 4d ago

It's psychology. The world, and life, can be overwhelming. So we tend to look for people who act like they know what they're doing, who say 'follow me, and everything will be alright'. They provide comfort to their followers, even if it's all a lie.

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u/nola_mike 4d ago

He can be fact checked in seconds.

The fact that CNN decided to not fact check this debate tells us all what we need to know. Media outlets don't want Biden to have a second term, he's too boring and doesn't get them ratings like Trump did when eh was being an absolute villain while in office.

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u/thelingeringlead 4d ago

They did fact check it on Twitter and other social media but not during the broadcast.

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u/nola_mike 4d ago

That shit should have been fact checked live during the broadcast so anyone watching could know the truth.

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u/pablonieve 4d ago

I’m so tired of ‘But Trump speaks so confidently…” lol, who gives a fuck?

A lot of voters, especially those on the fence.

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u/Inevitable-Revenue81 Europe 4d ago

You all tend to forget that this is a man that was raised on Wall Street when the lie kept the business alive and thriving. He’s an expert on perpetuating the lie so anyone without a brain will swallow him. He will bully anyone onto his beliefs and will because integrity as intellect are values foreign to him.

Con artist supreme. I wonder if USA have learned their lesson from the past when they lynched these men when US was still young.

What will US choose to believe, ignorance from that past and they will still be stuck in it for God knows how long or start confronting themselves. Either way Americans will have a lot to confront and learn what a political charade means.

God speed Americans, wish you best of intellectual light! Learn from the past that you chose to end and why.

Learn how to confront information and differentiate what is truth and lie.

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u/sqweezee 4d ago

Dude let’s not act like Republicans could find a loophole to stop a candidate with a speeding ticket but Dems can’t stop a guy with felonies. Both parties would know how to do that if it were possible

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u/o8Stu 4d ago

Both parties would know how to do that if it were possible

Dems did, in theory. But turns out asking SCOTUS to enforce the Constitution is too much of a stretch.

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u/SomeRannndomGuy 4d ago

Trumps conviction was a political show trial and massive blunder by the Dems. Republicans who don't like Trump or particularly like the idea of him winning another term said so themselves.

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u/The_River_Is_Still 4d ago

You’re on your own planet. Good luck with that

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u/SomeRannndomGuy 3d ago

I'm in my own country, which makes US politics a bemusing comedy sideshow.

Watching senile racist pervert Grandpa VS uncultured orange narcissist bigot Grandpa is very good fun though

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u/matphoto 4d ago

Trump also bizarrely tried to turn that against Biden by bragging about how many people he fired and how Biden doesn't fire anybody. Like somehow it never occurred to him that maybe Biden hires good people to start with that he has a mutual respect with?

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u/gsfgf Georgia 4d ago

Trump didn't really bloviate with his usual confidence either. Especially since Biden kept jumping ahead of Trump's attack lines. It would have been a lot better if Biden had made sense while doing so, but he did take the wind out of Trump's sails.

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u/Major_Magazine8597 4d ago

You ain't just whistling Dixie, pal!

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u/KingBadford Texas 4d ago

He speaks his bullshit and complete nonsense confidently, that’s who I want running the country!

This is my dad, unironically. One of the last posts I saw before I stopped using Facebook was "Trump may not be the smartest guy, but we need his strength and confidence."

My dad is from a rural area in the deep south and is...let's say, not the most educated guy. Yet he understands that Trump is an idiot and is full of shit. He just doesn't care.

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u/Overclocked11 4d ago

The Media: "Yeah, totally. Lets run non-stop features on this guy forever."

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u/FiddleheadFernly 3d ago

WE let it get this far? WE didn’t do anything!!! No one I know wants either one of these octogenarians to be the ruler of the free world- completely out of our control

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u/faberkyx 3d ago

Not from US but frankly I have no clue how Biden could still be lucid in 4 years where he has already clear issues now. He looks always completely lost ..and 4 years is a long time at this age

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u/mic92077 4d ago

Lmao, you must like living in high inflation and spending your money. Biden is the worst president, making Carter look great. Bidens cabinet is horrible. Wake and read and watch other news.

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u/The_River_Is_Still 3d ago

34 felonies says enough.

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u/bringonthefunk1973 4d ago

so sad that Trump is your next president 😪

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u/hellochristopher 4d ago

Biden should not be president your all fucking delusional if you honestly watched that debate and thought either one them should be up there. honestly reddit is fucking delusional for supporting Biden it’s a joke RFK ALL THE WAY BABBYY

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u/The_River_Is_Still 4d ago

Rather have someone old with a great administration than a lying psychopath. But you do you if you think a guy who got convicted paying off a porn star he slept with saying that he never slept with a porn star is normal, you’re damn gone yourself. Good luck with that

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u/hellochristopher 3d ago

Not a trump fan but ok I think your only hope is RFK after bernie was able to run