r/nottheonion • u/DerangedUnicorn27 • 6d ago

Convicted child rapist qualifies for Olympics

https://www.newsweek.com/steven-van-de-velde-dutch-beach-volleyball-olympics-1918442
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u/sunshine10zeros 6d ago

Usually the first step in rehab is admitting you have a problem? Or caused damage. He hasn’t or doesn’t take any personal accountability. And even didn’t pay the full sentence of 4 years .

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u/YoungLadHuckleberry 6d ago edited 6d ago

I hate ridiculous leniency like this with complete monsters in some European prisons

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u/mixile 6d ago

They have some of the lowest reoffense rates and lowest incarceration rates in the world. What's more important: reducing crime or getting retribution?

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u/ElderlyOogway 6d ago

Dude raped a 12 years old when her mother wasn't at home, he travelled to a different country after grooming her since she was 10, to do that. It was premeditated, planned and executed. Paraphrasing, I like Moore's point in retributivism: "it reaches a point where the monster is not the person who reacts strongly about the most depraved type of torture of innocents, but the one who is ok with it as long as it doesn't bother him no more". We should reduce crime and get retribution.

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u/sztrzask 6d ago

Cool. Except that, as the reality has shown, you can have one, not both.

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u/chahoua 5d ago

Kill child molesters.. No more molesting from them and retribution for the rest of us.

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u/Herbstein 5d ago

That's how you turn a child rapist into a child murderer. Leaving the child alive means more evidence, and more chance of them reporting it

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u/chahoua 4d ago

I've heard that before but I don't believe that to be true.

Logically you'd think it would be but people who commit these kind of crimes are not rational thinking people.

If you commit crimes like these you're not worrying about the consequences. Even in countries with lesser penalties you'd be a social pariah the rest of your life and the people you'd known before would hate you and you might get killed by relatives to the victim..

Tldr: I don't believe killing child molesters lead to more dead children.

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u/ElderlyOogway 5d ago

You mean in this case or overall? Because overall you certainly can have both. It's not an either/or option.

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u/sztrzask 5d ago

And if you googled that, you'd quickly learn that it's been debated at length in either or sliding scale. 

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u/ElderlyOogway 5d ago

I know it's being debated on the either/or, but it can be both. It's like saying "people are debating either or in laissez faire capitalism vs social state intervention", but it can be both. You're being purposefully obtuse.

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u/hikerchick29 2d ago

How the fuck is this getting downvoted? The man was an unrepentant pedophile!!!

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u/ElderlyOogway 2d ago

Truth hurts! And the next post on this same sub on the same topic (which has more upvotes) has very favorable views to the truth

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u/ElderlyOogway 2d ago

I agree with you. I'm also the person who you first replied.