r/news • u/FreeChickenDinner • 4d ago

West Virginia couple charged with trafficking their adopted Black children to be used as ‘slaves,’ authorities allege

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/us/west-virginia-adopted-black-children-slaves-reaj/index.html
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u/Commentary455 4d ago

Their victims were found locked in a barn with no bedding or air conditioning. https://wchstv.com/news/local/deputy-details-devastating-conditions-of-sissonville-barn-where-children-were-found-locked-inside

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u/MajorNoodles 4d ago

What makes me sad is that their prison cells are gonna be a lot nicer than that

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u/Natural-Orange4883 4d ago

Yea but the other inmates won't be. Child abuse like this is considered as bad as a sex charge. They will have a lot of enemies in prison.

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u/mmm_guacamole 4d ago

Also, there's a disproportionate amount of black folks in the corrections system for some weird reason.

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u/omgdude29 4d ago

Couldn't have anything to do with increased policing in areas where larger concentrations of black people live almost like it was designed as a means to keep them living in poverty?

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u/Sage2050 4d ago

Probably not. I doubt it has anything to do with targeted laws and selective enforcement either.

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u/Kroniid09 4d ago

And super duper nothing to do with the 13th amendment's exception for slavery as long as the person has been "duly convicted".

Certainly nothing to do with that, and definitely nothing at all to do with the for-profit prison system.

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u/robodrew 4d ago

Broken Windows policy was about fixing broken windows obviously!!

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u/wwwdiggdotcom 4d ago

Wait, was it actually not? I haven’t heard about it since high school but we were taught crime went down once money went into repairing broken windows and picking up trash or something like that. Was it actually some kind of racist legislation?

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u/Iskali 4d ago

Selective enforcement. Broken window laws only get enforced on the poor side of town.

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u/xjay2kayx 4d ago

Kind of like when the police decided to use AI to help them with better deploying police resources and their model just showed them that they should deploy more officers to areas where they were already over patrolling.

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u/knowitall89 4d ago

It was less about repairing broken windows and more about excessive punishment for breaking windows (and other small crimes) in order to deter other crime.

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u/Chang-San 4d ago

Almost like the same type of policies people are still trying to advocate for today.

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u/Polywhirl165 4d ago

The policy was aimed at overly harsh punishments on minor crimes. The idea was if they can stop minor crimes, the major ones will also slow down. It worked to a degree, but was mostly enforced in heavily black areas.

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u/Unknown-Meatbag 4d ago

Definitely not sure due to redlining and baked in systemic racism. No nosiree.

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u/idwthis 4d ago

This is off topic, but I say nosiree all the time. It's nice to see someone else do it, too! I usually add a Bob to the end myself. And I never use it sarcastically, nosireebob, not me.

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u/Val_Killsmore 4d ago

Or the 13th Amendment. Can't forget about the 13th Amendment either.

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u/sinat50 4d ago

Almost everything to do with the 13th amendment actually

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u/pandershrek 4d ago

Might have to do with becoming adults after being locked in a barn their entire life and having stunted social skills.

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u/JacketDapper944 4d ago

Don’t forget that the 13th amendment conveniently does not protect convicted felons serving their sentences from forced labor (or, ya know, de facto slavery).

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u/pendragon2290 4d ago

Statically, the median income of an area is a better indicator than policing. Not saying there isn't a connection, income inequality is usually just the bigger piece at play. Most the time.

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u/Kierik 4d ago

They probably have the full protection of the Neo nazis in the prison as they were living the life they want.

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u/LZYX 4d ago

I don't think even Neo Nazis are putting themselves into a fight for some old racist child abusers. What would they get in return, milk n cookies?

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u/UninsuredToast 4d ago

As far as the Neo Nazis in prison are concerned it’s about sticking with and protecting your people. They don’t necessarily care about what they get in return but they will find something these two fucks can do to contribute to the gang

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u/googly_eyes_roomba 4d ago

They are ultimately on their own. They might get friendly with AB or something, but they won't be protected. Child abusers are fair game for anyone who needs to prove they'll hurt or kill people for a gang. If they want safety they are gonna have to get approved for cells in segregation units.

It's my understanding that this is voluntary solitary confinement. The kind of schedule and housing conditions that eventually make people go insane or request reintegration into general population regardless of the risk. Ironically, these MFs are probably gonna beg for desegregation some day.

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u/adorablefuzzykitten 4d ago

You are giving too much credit to Nazis.

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u/Born_Again_Communist 4d ago

As a felon, you can't take up for anyone who abuses kids. You might talk with them, or whatever, but you can't have their back ever. When they mess up in prison they are on their own.

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u/adorablefuzzykitten 4d ago

Good people on both sides...

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u/brandino5oh3 4d ago

You don’t get protection when you’re clicked up without putting in work

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u/nothingeatsyou 4d ago

Yeah but they’ll be put in the special “crimes against children” part of the prison where they put all the other sickos who would get murdered in the regular part.

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u/Dwestmor1007 3d ago

I mean there are plenty of black people in that section too….

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u/NuancedFlow 4d ago

It's almost like the 13th amendment has an exception in it to allow slavery.

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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 4d ago

Outside of out and out racism, it's called being poor.

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u/your5_truly 4d ago

schadenfreude intensifies

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u/bros402 4d ago

I hope they get the shit beat out of them in prison.

Not enough to kill them, though.

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u/Unusual-Anteater-988 4d ago

Not enough to kill them, though.

Just break their necks.

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u/bros402 4d ago

nah, they don't deserve paralysis and being unable to feel pain

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u/sembias 4d ago

They'll get in with the white power people and they'll be protected by cunts like themselves.

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u/Own-Ambassador-3537 3d ago

But probably killed by someone white over a perceived slight,ironically .

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u/Natural-Orange4883 4d ago

No they don't protect child abusers or rapists.

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u/Capt_Hawkeye_Pierce 4d ago

...white nationalists are pretty well known for rape in the American penal system.

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u/Much_Capital3307 4d ago

It’s seen differently. Rape between prisoners is seen as a display of dominance, while rape on the outside is seen as a sign of weakness. It doesn’t make a lot of sense but that’s how it is. That being said there’s a good chance they’ll be treated well by the Nazis since what they did was racially motivated slavery, which the Nazis support.

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u/poopyheadthrowaway 4d ago

If they're anything like MAGA folks outside of prison, they talk a big game about stopping child trafficking but support actual child rapists.

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u/Much-Resource-5054 4d ago

The only reason MAGA talks about stopping child trafficking is as a distraction to them being the biggest enablers of child trafficking anywhere.

It’s a distraction so you don’t look at them. It works and is still working.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

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u/Much_Capital3307 4d ago

If it’s beneficial to them yeah absolutely. That’s the Aryan Brotherhoods whole deal. They’re a business first and foremost. Just like how they have a partnership with the Mexican Mafia over their mutual enemy the Black Guerrilla Family.

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u/Capt_Hawkeye_Pierce 4d ago

Idk a lot of them are prison for rape in the first place. Women are pretty much in the same place in the hierarchy as blacks, Mexicans, or Jews.

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u/Much_Capital3307 4d ago

I can see them making exceptions for their own members because they’re not very consistent with their ideology. But they absolutely do target rapists outside their group in prison. And it’s not because of respect for women or protecting children, it’s because crimes against women and children are seen as weak and weak is the worst thing to be seen as in prison.

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u/AvertAversion 4d ago

Something tells me they won't mind when they find out the ethnicity of the children that were abused

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u/Pielacine 4d ago

Thank you for not making this a rape joke. I do hope people remind them daily how shitty they are.

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u/yeswenarcan 4d ago

The rape joke is the obvious one, but reality is they're going to get reminded how shitty they are with a shiv between the ribs.

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u/xelop 4d ago

Worse than obvious. We can't say rape is awful.. unless of course it's by a prisoner to a prisoner, then totally fine

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u/Alpha_Decay_ 4d ago

I'd speculate that enslaving black children for farm work is considered even worse in prison

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u/made3 4d ago

This is what people often say, I wonder if thats true. And how should the other prisoners know? They could just lie about what they did to land in prison

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u/Natural-Orange4883 3d ago

When they get to the first prison facility called the fish tank inmates paper check them. Which is make them provide there psi. Pre sentence investigation. If they don't have it or try lying inmates will call someone on the outside and use Google or what ever resource they need to get the information. Or dirty guards provide it.

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u/made3 3d ago

Have you been through this process?

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u/Natural-Orange4883 3d ago

Yes and the gangs in prison take it all very seriously.

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u/Few-Stop-9417 4d ago

Once the black inmates find out , that couple will be 20-25 years a slave in jail

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u/ManicChad 4d ago

Yeah and good luck to them finding an all white prison. They’re going to spend their remaining days in isolation just so gen pop don’t get at them.

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u/Bn_scarpia 4d ago

Bet they join up with the Aryan Brotherhood for protection

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u/tomdarch 4d ago

Won’t there be racist white gang people who would treat them as heroes? (Not to mention judges who wouldn’t want this unfortunate situation to cause too much difficulty for these otherwise fine, upstanding Christians…)

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u/StuckOnPandora 4d ago

Bottom of the Prison barrel is anyone who hurt kids. I'd speculate, it's something like, 'I might be bad, but shit...I ain't that bad.' There's voluntary segregation, gangs, but then there's the predators, and all accounts say it doesn't go well for them. So it doesn't matter if the children were Black, white, Asian, Hispanic, or otherwise, they're still kids.

Some of the Racial Segregation in prison isn't centered on a philosophy of hatred so much as a basic common denominator of survival. We have an unfortunate function born into us at birth that identifies the appearance of our parents with safety, this is according to THINKING FAST, THINKING SLOW. We're not born racist, one isn't born hating someone who looks different. We're just born distrustful of strangers, and it's entrusted to us, our culture and norms, to ensure that uncertainty doesn't become hate or distrust.

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u/Striking-West-1184 4d ago

Yeah I imagine the black people will not be particularly impressed with the situation

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u/Express-Row-1504 4d ago

That’s just wishful thinking. It’s good to think like that to make one feel better about the outcome. But my view of the world is more pessimistic than yours unfortunately. I don’t think they’ll have it even half as bad as what they gave out.

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u/PilgrimOz 4d ago

Who's gonna be first, will be the question. "Guard! Hello?! Guard? Mmmm? Ummmm..why the lights go out?" Hate me but I find it satisfies a want for justice for victims.

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u/BosiPaolo 3d ago

Sadly they will have also lots of nazi friends in jail.

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u/devilishlydo 3d ago

Inmates who can't be kept safe in the general population are often kept in segregation. Imagine spending 25 years with the same 5 child molesters.

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u/Ok-Fix-3323 4d ago

you know i hear about this notion alot, but i fail to see how a morally lesser person would care

i know there are people who don’t deserve to be there but that’s a minority

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u/Natural-Orange4883 4d ago

People who have charges like sex crimes or child abuse become targets for gangs. They get severely hurt by gang members trying to make a name for themselves or heavily extorted. There's a hierarchy in prisons and these 2 are at the bottom.

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u/philiretical 4d ago

Because we are better people than them. A barely better life than what they gave is exactly what they deserve. They will still feel like it's an injustice to them, obviously. They're bad people, but we have to draw a line that we won't cross or else we let ourselves become the people we hate.

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u/Synectics 4d ago

Well put. It's what annoys me about people locked up for crimes like Jan 6th, who complain about their prison conditions.

Yeah, prisons suck. A lot of people have protested them. But you never cared because only the "right" people had to go to prison. The moment it affected you or your family, you think prisons need improvement. 

It's that lack of empathy that I don't want to lose.

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u/Farseli 4d ago

I don't think we become what we hate until we copy them, and we can't because they aren't children. Anything we do to them won't be the same, so we don't need to worry about it.

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u/philiretical 4d ago

The lesson I would want people to learn is how to do better, not show how effective fear tactics work to control other's behaviors. It's how we still live with people doing stuff like this.

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u/ponzLL 4d ago

I feel like a good old fashion court ordained public lynching would be a suitable and ironic way for them to go.

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u/stataryus 4d ago

Jim Crow judge just shrugs

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u/SweetWaterfall0579 4d ago

Jail cells have a toilet and running water. Maybe even a window.

Justice would be locking the two POS in a shed of the same size, with a tin roof. Hot in summer, cold in winter. No windows for them. I guess they could have a bucket once a day, for ten minutes, which is probably more than the children got.

There really is no justice for these children.

My father had the best idea for punishment of the most heinous crimes. At dawn, in a field, prisoner is given a shovel. Make the hole as deep and as wide as you can! Sunset, push them in the hole and put a metal grate over the top. Too heavy to push off. Give them half a piece of lettuce and a heaping tablespoon of water once a day. Any spiders they catch would be bonus protein. See how long they last.

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u/Rudy_Ghouliani 4d ago

They can still make them work them fields tho

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u/mazzotta70 4d ago

Just wait until the crips/bloodz figure out what they did.

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u/kevnmartin 4d ago

They look like moldy potatoes. Behold the Master Race. Lol.

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u/Confident-Bluejay883 4d ago

Hold abuse is not tolerated well by inmates

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u/Witchgrass 4d ago

I live in WV. The shittiness of our prisons will surprise you.

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u/wprivera 4d ago

Neither of them will survive prison. They will be targeted and dispatched.

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u/mmm_guacamole 4d ago

Posting this here for educational purposes, not to distract from the heinous actions in this story.

Slavery is, unfortunately, alive and well in the US. Domestic Servitude is one of the defined forms of human trafficking, as is Forced Child Labor.

There are other cases like this one all over America.

The neighbors who called the cops knew something wasn't right. There are signs. They saved these kids lives.

Just a quick internet search of "human trafficking in the US" gives results with statistics from the FBI, the Polaris Project, ans various other organizations focused on dealing with it. You can also find information about what to look for, signs and behaviors that someone is being trafficked.

https://www.state.gov/humantrafficking-about-human-trafficking/#human_trafficking_U_S

There's a national (US) hotline for reporting tips.

https://humantraffickinghotline.org/en/report-trafficking

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 4d ago

Thank you for sharing this! Keep doing it!

I was a child slave in Montana around 2002. When the work dried up I almost got sold across state lines.

I didn't really understand how wrong it all was because it was mostly in public. Dad smiled and acted so proud of his little girl "helping out" that nobody seemed to notice or object to me doing most of his job for him while clearly being neglected.

Found the license with ID picture from the year I started doing physical labor. Thin pale nearly-blind child dressed for heavy labor. The pitchfork was taller than me but apparently that's no excuse for failing to do the work of a full grown adult man.

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u/OfficerGenious 4d ago

If you don't mind me asking, how did you become a child slave?

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 4d ago

Uh, well my parents didn't really love me or want me around or care about my well being. And dad had rules about how things that don't work don't get to eat or continue living.

I couldn't say No or refuse to work. I got beaten for not working fast enough or just because. And I couldn't get help from other adults because dad just had to make up lies about how I'm a spoiled brat throwing a fit or druggy tramp angry about reasonable rules, whatever would be believed for my age.

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u/OfficerGenious 4d ago

That's incredibly shitty. I hope they burn. As for you, how're you holding up? Did you get therapy? Are you okay?

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 4d ago

Honestly "the village" helped a lot more than therapy. Many people helped me, taught me, cared about me, so I could turn out decent instead of destructive. Coworkers, classmates, bosses, the parents of friends, I would've been lost without them.

I'm mostly alright these days. I've got lots of lasting issues but I'm enjoying life. My auntie looks out for me, now that she lives here and has heard about my childhood. She had no idea what was going on back then, I was fairly isolated from the extended family.

And I'm getting something of a second chance at childhood by nannying for cousins. We have "slumber parties" and go on adventures, lightsaber battles in the park.

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u/OfficerGenious 4d ago

That's wholesome as fuck. I'm glad you're moving forward and the community came through for you. I wish you the best and thanks for responding. <3

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u/LOVING-CAT13 4d ago

I am so sorry that this happened to you. Thank you for sharing your story.

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u/mmm_guacamole 4d ago

I read your other responses. I'm so glad you're not in that situation anymore and that you have such a strong support network. Slumber party nights sound like a blast!

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u/in_pdx 3d ago

Narcissistic abuse is like that. The abuser(s) not only groom the victim(s), but groom the other people around them to accept what they are doing, or pretend not to notice it. Some will also instinctively join in the abuse of the victim to keep themselves from becoming a victim.  Abusers tend to do the overt abuse in secret or only in front of or with people who are also under their coercive control. As children, we instinctively dissociate, internalize the abuse and fawn. Between our natural defenses and a circle of family or other coerced people acting like it’s normal and that you deserve it, it seems normal. To outsiders, the abusers will put on a show of kindness, generosity and overall niceness.  Edit: abusers also use character assignation and isolation to control their victim(s). 

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u/pimppapy 4d ago

Enjoy this information while you can, I have a feeling the Supreme Court is going to do some other BS that will keep all these stats under the rug.

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u/mmm_guacamole 4d ago

While I share your contact concern about the recent SCOTUS news, some statistics come from non-profits like Polaris Project and other private organizations, as opposed to the US govt. Ppl can support them with donations or volunteering with local orgs instead of hoping our currently falling apart govt. keeps slavery illegal.

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u/Vox___Rationis 4d ago

What is crazy to me is - who is buying them?

I can't even imagine the logistics involved in owning a slave and using their labor in a modern country, to the point where it would be cost efficient and worth the risk.

And if the buyers are outside of the USA than why would they buy from the USA instead of one of the less risky countries.

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u/COKEWHITESOLES 4d ago

They just adopt them from foster care.

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u/mmm_guacamole 4d ago

You have a good point about the logistics and cost benefit. I think what you're missing is that in situations such as the one OP posted, people don't own other people because it's cost efficient. They do it because they want to own other people.

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u/FeistyBlizzard 4d ago

That’s what’s crazy to you? 

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u/apothekari 4d ago

It's ok, SCOTUS will step in with adjustments to labor clarifications and eliminate any worker protections to bring the rest of the US in line with these 2 West Virginia Visionaries. Coming to your area in 2025!

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u/arrynyo 4d ago

As a black male, I'd very much rather choose the sea. But if they think they're going to go back to slavery, a very hard lesson is about to be learned.

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u/Canis_Familiaris 4d ago

You better be voting Biden then, because that shit is coming if the cheeto wins.

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u/arrynyo 4d ago edited 4d ago

I'm definitely voting blue ain't no way in hell I'll be sitting at the house complaining about what's going on and I didn't at least do my part.

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u/Canis_Familiaris 4d ago

Its super frustrating to see peeps being like "Oh man the SCOTUS is so crap but I can't vote for the old guy". Like bruh.... what they on?

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u/arrynyo 3d ago

It's sad. I don't understand people of color pulling for Trump when it's been a known fact he was a racist piece of shit before the 1990s! Ask anybody who lived in New York in the 70s and 80s and they will spit on his name happily.

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u/PineTreeBanjo 4d ago edited 2h ago

I love the smell of fresh bread.

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u/TheUnluckyBard 4d ago

I'd rather fight back.

Bullshit too. Nobody's fighting back. If we were gonna take up arms against tyranny and mass death, we'd have done it already.

The only people willing to show up to the dance were the Jan 6th fuckers. That's why it doesn't matter one fucking nit how many "liberal gun owners" are out there. We're still waiting for someone else to "throw the first punch," even though they've been slamming us in the face with a fire extinguisher since at least 2016. What counts as "the first punch" keeps getting redfined every time it happens, specifically because nobody's willing to fight back, ever, under any circumstances.

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u/arrynyo 4d ago

You ain't lying, but if they choose the right ones to try that shit with, they'll get the smoke they seek...if you picking up what I'm putting down

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u/JetreL 4d ago

I don’t think you are in the minority here with your last statement and I’m not black.

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u/_its_a_thing_ 4d ago

Nah, they'll just scream about "parent's rights" being absolute.

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u/rtwo1 4d ago

Unless the parents are homeless

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u/GayMormonPirate 4d ago

Ha. If they had let them sleep inside the house then everything else would have been legal. There's nothing that says that kids can't be made to do farm work for 10+ hours a day with no compensation. As long as they are 'home schooled', it would all be ok as far as the law is concerned.

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u/CatsScratchFeva 4d ago

As someone who grew up in WV, is no longer there but still loves the state - this couple came from WASHINGTON STATE and had only been in WV for only two years. We do NOT claim them, they are not West Virginians.

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u/ForensicPathology 4d ago

I bet they're also the type of people who try to argue that "No, slavery was OK, because they were given food and a place to sleep."

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u/VagrantShadow 4d ago

It's crazy to believe people think like that. I've seen people say slavery wasn't so bad because it made African blacks have a purpose in life and gave them christian values.

I was infuriated because the person I was arguing with, who said those things, they honestly believed every bit of the bullshit that was coming out of their mouths.

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u/ZenAdm1n 4d ago

Growing up I was told slaves were rarely mistreated because they were so expensive only the wealthly landowners could afford them. I was an adult before I saw photographs of slaves' backs. Google "whipped Peter" if you have any doubts.

I later learned through genealogy research my poor preacher 4th great-grandfather's parish owned 2 slaves before the southern Methodist Episcopal Church took an abolitionist stance. It wasn't just large plantation owners. Slave ownership was widespread.

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u/Lumpen_anus 4d ago

I still learned individual farming families were still GENERALLY too poor to own or buy slaves. There’s always exceptions, but most of these people I’m referring to could barely feed themselves, let alone slaves.

The “planters” or land owners had the disproportionate acres of land, money, over-seers, and cruelty.

I’d imagine it’d be easy for a church to pool money together to buy slaves, but it’d be pretty hard for a single farming family to do so.

That being said, I wouldn’t care if they executed these people.

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u/Aggravating_Heat_310 4d ago

I read a lot of the arguments for slavery at the time during college in a history of American policy class. The justifications people made are even more sickening than you might think. I kid you not, people tried to argue that slave’s lives are actually much better than free people’s lives because “we” are basically wage slaves anyway, at least they are guaranteed food, shelter etc etc etc. Like page after page after page of philosophical justification for slavery. Ugh.

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u/teensyboop 4d ago

And the kind of argument that 50% of us presidential candidates would pardon

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u/Earguy 4d ago

And they learned valuable job skills!

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u/weaponjae 4d ago

The way things are going they're gonna be paid Fox News contributors, or Acting Secretary of the Interior and USDA Inspector General next year.

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u/Ok-Fan-2011 4d ago

I hope this couple pays the price for all that they have done.

Yeah, their run for GOP leadership roles won't be cheap.

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 4d ago

ALL of their known associates should be questioned as well as anyone involved in the adoption. This shit doesn't just happen one day.

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u/AmazingGrace911 4d ago

I hope some nice family adopts them and gives them a good home.

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u/Hesitation-Marx 4d ago

I’m not sure there is a price they can pay that will even begin to approach justice.

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u/HauntingPersonality7 4d ago

I'd love to know about the adoption story and the organizations that supply these humans.

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u/mrbrick 4d ago

What ever they end up having to pay it won’t be enough. Absolute scum and degenerates.

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u/The_Original_Gronkie 4d ago

What is the punishment for literal Slavery? I honestly have no idea, but I'll bet it is variable among states, and harsh in some, and very weak in others. West Virginia? Its probably about as illegal as hiring an undocumented immigrant.

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u/SnooLobsters8113 4d ago

They need to be put under the jail. This is a failure on all levels. They shouldn’t have been allowed to adopt.

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u/rivertpostie 4d ago

How the actual fuck does a couple broach the subject of enslaving children? "Oh, honey, I was thinking..."

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u/podkayne3000 4d ago

I know there are good arguments against the death penalty, but these people should hang, or fry, or be drawn and quartered.

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u/GlowUpper 4d ago

Fuck, it would be illegal to keep an animal in those conditions.

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u/Old_Yesterday322 4d ago

and I wouldn't be surprised if half the town always knew about it

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u/youmestrong 4d ago

I believe a life sentence would be a decent warning to others.

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u/AdkRaine12 4d ago

Only if they live out their lives in the same conditions as those poor kids. What animals…

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u/Slightly-Drunk 4d ago

As a West Virginian, I hope they burn in the deepest parts of whatever hells they believe in.

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u/MrPloppyHead 4d ago

What makes people suddenly say, “well I think we should sell children, wait for it… as slaves. What do you think?”

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