r/landscaping 4d ago

What would you do with a yard this steep?

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u/LAjones29 4d ago

As a Landscape Architect this is going to be very pricey and must be designed/ constructed by people who know how to handle that sort of thing. Something this big will require structural input. Not saying it can’t be done but it will be very expensive

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u/Delicious_Spinach440 4d ago

I'd be freaking out about drainage and wash. But I had a hill like this behind my house, one day an oak tree slid down it. No real damage, but it was scary

I've seen yards left a flooded mess after hacks landscaped it

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u/Slimdawg101 4d ago

this is actually common. if theres trees on a hill and it gets to wet then theyll just give up and slide down the hill. it happens mostly during flooding though, typically a normal rainstorm or thunderstorm wouldnt do that unless the tree was weak.

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u/foxfirek 4d ago

Would it be better if they do multiple small retaining walls?

As someone with a 6’ tall leaning retaining wall and a $150k quote to replace it I 100% do not recommend large retaining walls. Sadly I have no choice.

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u/Strongcarries 3d ago

I'd uh... get more quotes. I have quite a long 6' retaining wall and got quotes for like 25-30k and im in quite a high col area. Of course this is still insanely expensive but planning on tackling it myself.

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u/foxfirek 3d ago

I plan to get more, but that’s good to know. There are other challenges unfortunately. The other side of that wall is my neighbors property, and maybe 10’ away is her in ground pool.

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u/Strongcarries 3d ago

I'm not a structural engineer but I've done an exhaustive amount of research, and while a pool is a massive surcharge(excess load on the top of the ground being retained), I think the premise is still similar. My neighbors property is also going to be retained and so it's hard for me to imagine how to terminate my wall, I'd definitely talk to a civil engineer for your county/city when you're ready. Like I said, I'm planning on doing the most expensive stylized wall I can imagine, and in a high cost of living. I cannot imagine that price difference is indicative of the difference in strength, and more the contractor was giving you a fuck you price. Let me know how it goes, though, I'm in the planning phase currently, and while I'm not holding up a pool, it's a few extra feet of soil and a large concrete patio.

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u/foxfirek 3d ago

I don’t know where you are but I’m in one of the priciest places- so that doesn’t help. SF Bay Area.

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u/Ricki1222 3d ago

Do you mind sharing the length of your retaining wall? I’m in the Bay Area too and mid-remodel so your quote sadly sounds on par with the price of everything around here.

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u/foxfirek 3d ago

I’m not sure how long it is, I would guess the relevant part is 50’- 60’. The wall is a lot longer then that but it also starts at like 3’ in my front yard and is fine in the side yard but once it hits the back yard it gets larger and that part is leaning and needs replacing. I don’t think the front would be replaced.

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u/SaltwaterOgopogo 4d ago

would adding a deck with pilings be an easier alternative?

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u/ItemInternational26 4d ago

this is what i was thinking

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u/DaisyDuckens 4d ago

Money no object, this is what I’d do. With my budget, I’m planting native plants and leaving it at that.

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u/cmcdevitt11 4d ago

Just a few terraces would run easily 30 to $50,000

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u/ElectricFleshlight 3d ago

It's clear a lot of people in this thread think it's a simple matter of cutting out a chunk of soil and stacking some landscape blocks in front. The sheer amount of excavating, hundreds of tons of drainage gravel, dozens of layers of geogrid split between each of the terraces, leveling and stacking wall blocks, backfilling, concrete work for the stairs, permitting, inspections... It makes my back and my wallet hurt just thinking about it.

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u/alltheporns 4d ago

Really curious what general direction you’d recommend here?

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u/Previous_Baby4054 4d ago

Like how much do you reckon? 50USD? 100?

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u/crackeddryice 4d ago

Yes, but I think they meant just a small part of it near the house, not the entire yard?

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u/ArmK13 4d ago

As a land surveyor, we hate retention walls, or any walls on a property. Especially if they’re curved.

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u/zbowling 3d ago

I got a guy who will do it for cheap. Call my man Jose.

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u/locke314 3d ago

Yep. They say anything above 4’ should need structural design. If you terrace, im not sure at what point it becomes a new wall and just a continuation of the same.

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u/Fine_Broccoli_8302 3d ago

This is an extremely important point. If you don’t consider drainage and the structure of retaining walls, you could end up with a landslide taking the hillside. It’s not a trivial problem.

Retaining walls need permits in many areas, and the original builders hopefully had their designs and foundation work engineered and approved.

I lived in California and saw this happen more than once after heavy rains. You’ll need a competent engineer and landscape architect to make things safe. If I lived there, I’d hire one just to make sure the existing home was ok with zero work on the hillside.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-06/santa-clarita-landslide-homes-evacuated

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u/macnutz22 3d ago

can you give a rough estimate? just throw some ball park numbers if you guessed the height width and length?

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u/PeytonManDing 4d ago

I didn’t think it would be very expensive. Expensive for sure but nothing too crazy. What’s your ball park estimate for something like that?

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u/Dan_Rydell 3d ago

It’d be six figures