r/facepalm 4d ago

The debate in a nutshell ๐Ÿ‡ฒโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ฎโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡จโ€‹

Post image

Our political system is the facepalm

14.9k Upvotes

938 comments sorted by

View all comments

2.8k

u/GayjinEntertainment 4d ago

"Trump what are you gonna do to help drug addicts in their struggles?"

"Theborderthebordertheborderthebordertheborder"

192

u/Squirrel_Whisperer_ 4d ago

Did you see what Biden did?

He turned an easy gimmie question on abortion into something nonsensical about immigration and where the moderators finally cut him off.

It was brutal to watch. I will vote for Biden's corpse if I have to and deal with Harris's presidency for four years but Democrats should strongly consider nominating someone else because we may lose again.

135

u/Coleslawholywar 4d ago

Truth, Biden was a train wreck, but at least he surrounds himself with smart people and listens to them. Trump stood up there for 2 hours and told insane nonsensical lies all over the place. He then made fun of Biden for not firing those who donโ€™t agree with everything he says. I really hope Biden steps down from the election. No one would blame him. His health isnโ€™t great and his son is in trouble. Itโ€™s time to retire and spend time with his family.

12

u/PupEDog 4d ago

I keep imagining him at night in bed just crying, wanting to get out so bad, hurting all over and exhausted, confused etc and all the pressure from half the country to keep going. I feel bad for him, but he did choose to be a politician and he did choose to run.

20

u/PeteGozenya 4d ago

What? He literally said he'd only run one term to beat Trump and then let someone younger come in.

He is doing this for himself, and there is no other reason.

If you want to pity someone pitty a person working full time and unable to afford living.

17

u/RegrettableBiscuit 4d ago

Yeah. He had plenty of time to help find some actual good candidates during the past four years, and build them up publicly. He didn't do anything, and so here we are.

3

u/mung_guzzler 4d ago

I dont think he really has a choice, the DNC probably figured he would do better than other candidates, the incumbent president usually does quite well, and pressured him to run

5

u/PeteGozenya 4d ago

Very possible. Incumbent do usually have that as an extra point for moderates and undecided.

I'm not a Biden fan by any stretch of the imagination, but as a moderate, he is more appealing than Trump. Trump is an extremist.

3

u/chuckart9 4d ago

Iโ€™m in the same place you are. I hate Trump and think Biden has no business in the White House.

3

u/PeteGozenya 4d ago

I'm glad I'm not alone. But people are slowly starting to realize that the 2 party system is flawed. It can't be repaired because it's working exactly as intended. It needs to be scraped.

I don't think we should have any political parties.

2

u/chuckart9 4d ago

I would love ranked choice voting. I think that would help

1

u/PeteGozenya 4d ago

Yeah my wife is a fan of it.

Personally I think we should just let everyone run. Person with the most votes in that state win, person with the most electoral votes is president.

But it would take a lot of voting reform. Maily the minimum number of electoral votes to win, but again it's designed this way to prevent a 3rd or even 10th party.

Though it would make it a hell of a lot harder for our Oligarchs to know who to back. And that is a massive issue we just accept. Everyone talks about it so we don't ignore it we just accept it.

1

u/chuckart9 4d ago

The biggest problem is that it takes an ungodly amount of money to run. Even for smaller local offices you need thousands and thousands to run a campaign. The only way to get that money is to be wealthy or make promises.

1

u/PeteGozenya 3d ago

Oh yeah it's disgusting how much money goes into just getting elected

→ More replies (0)

1

u/Sudden_Construction6 4d ago

Incumbents do well because people fear the unknown. Love or hate Trump, he's not unknown. He's got 4 years of presidency under his belt.

Bring in someone to replace Biden and then tables turn to Trump being the "incumbent"

Replacing both of them or voting 3rd party would be the best option, but I doubt that'll happen.

1

u/Blue_Bettas 4d ago

From what I understand, a big reason he's running currently is because Trump is running. If Trump wasn't running, Biden probably wouldn't be either. At least that's the impression I got from this article.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-not-sure-he-would-seek-re-election-if-trump-was-not-2023-12-05/

1

u/PeteGozenya 4d ago

I mean that his excuse. But the party has plenty of people who pole better against Trump than him.

We really need to stop electing these old ass white guys into office.

We need someone in their 40s or 50s who has a grasp on what it actually means to live paycheck to paycheck

2

u/Blue_Bettas 4d ago

Seriously, we already have a minimum age requirement for presidency, there should be a maximum age limit too. I don't think either of our current choices should be running. I also think the presidential debates should be open to all of the political parties, not just the Democrats and Republicans. Maybe if other parties were allowed to debate, more people would be aware that there are other options, and we'd have a shot of getting someone more middle of the road instead of being stuck with one of two extremes.

1

u/PeteGozenya 3d ago

We definitely agree on a lot of points. But I think that's just part of being a moderate.