r/XboxSeriesX Nov 20 '23

Starfield is still being worked on by 250 Bethesda devs Discussion

https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/bethesda-team
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u/Redisigh Nov 20 '23

There’s a reason Bethesda’s become a giant in gaming. They have a specific storytelling, game design and world building that’s unique to them.

Sure, other games may have better designed worlds, but something about Bethesda games just makes them unreplacable(?). There’s also the fact that they’re the only xbox games with an actual modding community and some really in depth mods.

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u/DanOfRivia Nov 20 '23

There’s a reason Bethesda’s become a giant in gaming.

Yes, their old masterpieces.

They have a specific storytelling

Being honest, their storytelling feels very outdated by now, even old trilogies like Mass Effect and Bioshock had a storytelling that has aged far better; not to mention TW3, RDR2 and just recently Baldur's Gate 3.

something about Bethesda games just makes them unreplaceable(?)

"something" is called nostalgia.

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u/ConsciousFood201 Nov 20 '23

Starfield is a bigger better game than Fallout New Vegas. Just because it’s not your favorite game, doesn’t mean those of us who grew up playing BGS games and loving them can’t appreciate what this game is and what it will eventually be with mods.

I think you want to argue there are better games but that’s dumb it’s just your opinion.

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u/Niet501 Nov 20 '23

Starfield > New Vegas us probably the most braindead take i've ever seen on this sub.

Starfield doesn't do anything better than New Vegas. Hell, Starfield barely does anything better than FO4.

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u/Redisigh Nov 21 '23

Imo New Vegas is neat but it’s just too dated for my tastes, especially with no mods. It’d might as well be a point and click shooter with how slow the player crawls back and forth and how the guns don’t even feel like guns

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u/Mast3rBait3rPro Nov 21 '23

zoomer take, just because it's dated doesn't mean that it didn't do all of the things starfield does but a long time ago. the point we're making is that the fact that the only thing starfield has going for it is that it's more recent is really telling

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u/Redisigh Nov 21 '23

My thing personally is just that the game’s past fame and achievements are kinda irrelevant if the gameplay’s so ass that I can’t even get into it.

I played maybe 5 hours of NV and loved its mechanics, quests, and more gritty realism but I just couldn’t deal with the gameplay.

At that rate I’d rather just play some kind of interactive novel just because of how much of a slog and chore the gameplay is

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u/Mast3rBait3rPro Nov 21 '23

to an extent I can understand that if you're just approaching it from the modern gameplay experience perspective but to say that the game is too dated is a bit ignorant because it was basically revolutionary in the gaming industry at the time. Obviously games that come out after and improve the experience even more are going to "feel" better.

If you want to get that modern experience out of the older fallout games you could mod them I guess, but they had a lot of charm during they hay day

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u/Redisigh Nov 21 '23

I’d love to mod them but they don’t have official support. Once I finish paying for college, a high end PC is on my list so that I can experience Bethesda’s older titles in all their glory though

I’ve seen mods for NV and such that actually makes it look more modern or enjoyable, so I’m looking forward to finally getting to the story without the older gameplay

And also- I’m not trying to say the games are bad, my point was that although they were revolutionary, you can’t exactly just say “Stop playing Starfield and just hop on NV” simply because of how different and aged the game is.

Ironically though, I appreciated the slight amount of mature themes that’s only present in older RPG’s like NV. Stuff like the hookers sitting around at the strip or Benny hitting on me really makes it feel like a bit more of a lived in post apoc city with real people as opposed to Starfield’s more sterile, flawed utopia vibe with zero feminine outfits and not even having a perk that specifically targets the opposite sex, like in every Fallout game.

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u/Mast3rBait3rPro Nov 21 '23

reasonable take, don't have much else to add