r/XboxSeriesX Nov 20 '23

Starfield is still being worked on by 250 Bethesda devs Discussion

https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/bethesda-team
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u/Coreldan Nov 20 '23

the DLC alone will probably still be cheaper than the whatever-the-fuck edition, though. I paid it even with gamepass, but it was cos the early access lined up with a near empty work week, while the launch week for me was packed, so I just wanted to play :D

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u/BenXGP Nov 20 '23

I just bought the premium edition upgrade for £30 and then played Starfield via Game Pass. For that I got 6 days of early access, some unique cosmetics, access to the expansion when it launches and a digital copy of the soundtrack. Given I'd pay around that for a typical RPG expansion anyway, seemed like a no-brainer to me. Got about 12 days played so far so don't regret that decision at all

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u/abrahamisaninja Nov 20 '23

That’s how I saw it too. I figured if phantom liberty was going to be $30 I might as well just for the starfield upgrade too

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u/8BallsGarage Nov 20 '23

And that's how they got you 😅

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u/abrahamisaninja Nov 20 '23 edited Nov 20 '23

I mean I love Bethesda games so it was highly likely that I was gonna buy it anyway. I have like 80 hours in Starfield so to me it was worth it. Hopefully the dlc doesn’t suck lol

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u/8BallsGarage Nov 20 '23

Yea. I mean. They know. Like take two and rockstar know people will buy gta.

I tried a few times, on skyrim. And I get the fanship of the franchise. Enough so that I understand what starfield wanted to be, and what fans wanted it to be

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u/viciouskreep Nov 21 '23

Not at all 30 was pretty standard for a dlc not this new shit of here free dlc but if want the stuff in it it's gonna take 1000 hours to get it but sure u can always buy this one weapon for 20 to help u get there faster the old way was way better and the dlcs were way better too especially Bethesda dlc

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u/8BallsGarage Nov 21 '23

Utterly ridiculous. Dlc used to mean nothing more than some fancy colored weapon, or maybe some other world to travel

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u/viciouskreep Nov 21 '23

Far harbour, nuka world, dawnguard, dragonborn have u ever played dlc from back in the day clearly you e no idea what you're talking about or you're just here to bitch and moan either way stfu

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u/8BallsGarage Nov 21 '23

And I played those when you were nothing but cum, just about caught in a sock.

Unfortunately, your mom was available that night, and here you are.

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u/viciouskreep Nov 21 '23

Aw you don't have a valid argument so u turn to insults how mature from the "adult" n I'm 34 but sure we'll go with me being the adolescent despite nothing I said suggesting that

At least be creative you degenerate troglodyte

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u/8BallsGarage Nov 21 '23

Not trying to argue. Unlike the other 'troglodytes'

You generic piece of Bethesda cliche garbage

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u/RisingDeadMan0 Nov 20 '23

i got it for £18, you can buy it from iceland (country) with no VPN.

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23

i made the same math, thinking it will be a great game, so buying the DLC would be a nobrainer anyway.

i expected Skyrim or Fallout (not76) levels of entertainment, and i feel like an absolute tool now. i hate that i own that DLC, i just want to forget that shitty game, but now i will have to revisit it in 2024...

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u/Coreldan Nov 20 '23

Sorry you feel that way. I really enjoyed the game but I agree in the sense that I feel Skyrim probably has way more replayability. That said, in 3 different tries Skyrim never entertained me while Starfield I gobbled up fast.

I definitely got my moneys worth and then some. I still have things to do with base game, but its always the same with me that competing main story usually leads me to drop the game for a long time. Might finish The base game stuff after the DLC pulls me back in for sure

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23

i think the copy paste POIs are an insult. I don't care about the 25€ i paid for early access/dlc, i fucking hate that i wasted my time with that game. i played main story and factions, and avoided all exploration, because its so pointless.

everything beside the main path is terrible

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u/Coreldan Nov 20 '23

I definitely agree about that one which is why I've just ignored them for the most parts. It's why I dont feel there is as much replayability as with the other games mentioned.

However I think the main story, all the bigger side stories and even most smaller side quests (basically just do everything that isnt procedurally generated) is still an easy 100 hours played and I think I've been to "same god damn base" only a few times early on when exploring before giving up on that.

Should've at least made the story POIs unique and then random POIs their own thing, with some algorithm that it at least rotates you through everything you havnt seen yet before giving the same cryo lab 4 times in a row.

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23

time played is not a good measure for quality, and honestly i find the statement of getting your moneys worth very silly. i say it again, i wish i had played it less, than i actually did

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u/Coreldan Nov 20 '23

And you are free to feel that way, but its easy to look around and see most dont share that sentiment.

In general hours played isnt a good measure of much, but I regardless enjoyed what I played. Its why ive played Skyrim 10-15 hours three different times. It wasnt fun to me so I stopped. I dont play games that arnt entertaining to me so with that context the hours played says something

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23

i would say steam reviews dropping to mixed is a clear indicator that many do share that sentiment, in germany it sits around 3/5 on microsoft store and metacritic is pretty divided as well.

so there are many people i r/starfield that love the game, but the general consent is that it is deeply flawed and shallow

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u/cardonator Craig Nov 20 '23

The Steam reviews don't mean anything. As of right now, 69% of people on Steam still recommend the game. A lot of the reviews are quite fair but some are obviously quite garbage.

It's also the number 6 most rated game of 2023 which is crazy.

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23 edited Nov 20 '23

ok youre right, its goty

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '23

It'll be good one day at least it launched in a playable state. Did you also forget cyberpunk when it launched in a completely unplayable State missing almost every feature that they promised and then canceled every single feature that they had promised except a single DLC? I'm sure after a couple of years Starfield will be given the title of one of the greatest RPGs of all time.

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u/Happy-Viper Nov 20 '23

When Cyberpunk came out, it was an awesome world with a great story and cool characters, but endless bugs and so-so gameplay.

They could fix the bugs, and fix the gameplay, but Starfield at its core is dogshit.

The world is bad, the characters are bad, the quest lines are bad… even if they fix gameplay and bugs, that doesn’t leave a good game.

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23

cyberpunk was way worse for last gen console players. i played it day one on pc and it was allright. of course playing it now after the latest patches, transformed the whole game.

i don't think Bethesda has the capabilities to pull off something like this.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '23

Thats pretty ignorant to say, they absolutely do. Cyberpunk launched in a completely unfinished state, they had to add vehicular Combat 3 years after when it was promised on launch. They canceled almost every single major update for the game and head to focus on rebuilding the entire thing. The RPG system was complete trash on lunch. They had to update the police system as well because that system just had NPCs literally spawning in front of you. The game was only stable on very specific hardware. Batista absolutely has the capabilities to pull off making Starfield one of the greatest RPGs of all time, and it will have a much more robust modding feature set then cyberpunk could ever hope to have. Cyberpunks current modding features are extremely lackluster and boil down to custom skins on guns and cars.

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u/etoile-de-merde Nov 20 '23

Man, I loved Batista when I was a kid, he was one of my favorite wrestlers. But I don't think he works on Starfield.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '23

LOL I'm using speech to text and I don't think Google knows what Batista is

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23

i see this still bothers you a lot...lets see how bethesda does in two years time.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '23

It doesnt bother me, just ignorant to say bethesda cant make a great rpg. They made morrowind, oblivion, skyrim, fo3/4... they have made a lot of great rpgs... ignorant to say they are incapable regardless of your asinine opinion.

Why 2 years? You use different standard for cdpr and bethesda?

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u/SabresFanWC Nov 20 '23

Not liking this "Wait until 2-3 years after launch and the game will be good" trend.

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u/cardonator Craig Nov 20 '23

LOL imagine saying this with how present Starfield is in the heads of people that disliked it.

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u/Happy-Viper Nov 20 '23

When Cyberpunk came out, it was an awesome world with a great story and cool characters, but endless bugs and so-so gameplay.

They could fix the bugs, and fix the gameplay, but Starfield at its core is dogshit.

The world is bad, the characters are bad, the quest lines are bad… even if they fix gameplay and bugs, that doesn’t leave a good game.

The idea that it’d be the greatest RPG? I mean, it’s laughable.

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u/Happy-Viper Nov 20 '23

Don’t worry, brother, we took a chance and bet on art.

Sometimes, you get gold, sometimes you get Starfield. Just ain’t our luck.

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23

the truth is, i was a child that couldn't wait a week. offering early access is a terrible business tactic, preying on the weak...like me. but i learned my lesson.

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u/Happy-Viper Nov 20 '23

Lmao, same camp, brother.

I though, ah, like 30? I’d pay way more than that to play it! This is a bargain!

What a fool I was.

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u/Tea-Mental Nov 20 '23

Same, I'd uninstalled it before the official release date lol.

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u/S1egwardZwiebelbrudi Nov 20 '23

so sad...i was so excited after all the trailers and todds sweet lies.

remember how they talked about creation engine 2 and the first time you saw those uggly af trees in new atlantis? fuck!

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u/DustAdept Nov 20 '23

No you don't. Who's forcing you to play? For me $30 was worth early access alone.

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u/Th0ak Nov 20 '23

Not sure I would call a game shitty just because it was a big disappointment. My playthrough in which I tried to 100% the game logged just over 100 hours. I consider the $30 a decent investment even if I don’t have a reason to revisit the game.

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u/IamPlagueis Nov 20 '23

DLCs nowadays get very expensive I wpuldnt be surprised if it will cost 30$. Just think about it Devs sell Skins for 10-20$. So I would expect that a DLC will be more expensive then a Skin.

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u/IamPlagueis Nov 20 '23

DLCs nowadays get very expensive I wpuldnt be surprised if it will cost 30$. Just think about it Devs sell Skins for 10-20$. So I would expect that a DLC will be more expensive then a Skin.

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u/DaCheezItgod Nov 20 '23

If you have a PC as well you also have the game via the Microsoft Games Store there. You can port your save from the Xbox to the PC so you’re also just buying the game to own in two places

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u/Gonzo--Nomad Nov 20 '23

I was in the same boat. I knew I was gonna get boned for being impatient but went along anyway. Time is the most precious asset