r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Mar 28 '24

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E07 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 7 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE

As Mark attempts to salvage his personal life, a new villain arrives, presenting Invincible with his greatest challenge yet. Donald grapples with his past.

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u/The_Throwback_King Mar 28 '24

Glad they gave Bulletproof that role-call scene with Black Samson.

Great summary of The Guardians' current dysfunction and, plus, it gave some degree of depth to the most one note member of the current Guardians lineup.

After the complete lack of details or scenes with Rae, pre gut-check, I respect the choice to give Bulletproof something.

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u/QueasyIsland Mar 28 '24

I agree but the Cecil is doing all this for White America line by Bulletproof was just cringe to me and forced by the writers. I never got the inklings Cecil is that kinda guy, and it’s evident to everyone his priority is the entire world before anything, not just White Americans.

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u/AmIClandestine Mar 28 '24

That's probably just bulletproofs outlook, characters having their own perspectives and opinions is what makes them characters after all.

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u/QueasyIsland Mar 28 '24

Totally it just felt sort of out of place in a great speech. I understood his entire sentiment and he honed in things which needed to be addressed, that just came outta nowhere as the audience hasn’t seen that tone/vibe from Cecil

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u/Odd-Emergency-6597 Mar 28 '24

Nah it felt right in place to me. I loved everything about Bulletproofs speech

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u/Lucifer_Crowe Mar 28 '24

It being between him and Black Samson felt right yeah

It doesn't necessarily mean it's true

He slates Rudy when he's consistently been the one carrying that whole squad.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Mar 29 '24

I don't think you're from America. That line fits and hits hard considering what's going on in the country.

Also, Robert Kirkman made Invincible an Asian character, because he noticed every superhero main character was nearly 98% white, even at a time whites were nowhere 98% of the population.

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u/Anjunabeast Mar 29 '24

nearly 98%

Just like Donald it’s poetic

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u/MyARhold30Shots Mar 29 '24

It's not out of place, you just disagree with him lmao

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u/QueasyIsland Mar 28 '24

Meh it’s Reddit, as soon as people see 0 or -1 they’ll just go along and bandwagon enmasse. It’s a very disingenuous way of upholding discussion and actually goes against the etiquette and rules of the website. But yeah, it was genuinely a raised eyebrow moment,no pretext just something thrown in there at an attempt to send a message that doesn’t follow the character in reference’s behaviour or morals

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u/240Nordey Damien Darkblood Mar 28 '24

Characters can have biased viewpoints due to their backgrounds. A character can dislike white bureaucrats the same way a character can dislike immigrants... therefore, it's in their character to say biased things...

Also, disregarding one line spoken by one character simply because YOU don't like the "messaging" it seems to give off may be a you problem.

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u/QueasyIsland Mar 28 '24

Where have we ever seen that’s in Bulletproof’s character to have that sentiment

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u/krilltucky Mar 29 '24

have you considered that those words are a part of his character that we haven't seen yet because we literally haven't seen shit from this guy?

do character traits not reveal themselves after the first scene a character is in?

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u/Emergency_Fig_6390 Mar 29 '24

Just now we just saw it. They’re developing his character and that sentiment is a part of that

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u/PeaWordly4381 Mar 29 '24

People like you: EVERYONE IS SUCH A SNOWFLAKE WHO GETS OFFENDED BY EVERYTHING THESE DAYS

Also people like you:

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u/PsionicCauaslity Mar 29 '24

I was under the assumption that "Cecil is doing all this for White America" isn't meant to be taken at face value. The entire scene, it really felt less like "Cecil is racist" and more like, "Bulletproof has a lot of baggage and, as a result, has a chip on his shoulder and assumes the worst out of everyone."

It should be noted that during the entire scene, he was taking the most uncharitable observation about everyone. I don't think he was supposed to come off as likable in that scene.

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u/Majestic-Pension1527 Apr 01 '24

Completely reasonable that a young black man character in a story taking place in a kinda-modern America would think that. Even if you don't agree with what Bulletproof said, that is perfectly expected for him. Don't always assume it's about pushing a message just because what a character says is part of the message. The problem is when it doesn't fit.

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u/Dacnis Apr 01 '24

Someone seems offended😏❄️

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