r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Mar 28 '24

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E07 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 7 - I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE

As Mark attempts to salvage his personal life, a new villain arrives, presenting Invincible with his greatest challenge yet. Donald grapples with his past.

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u/flightofwonder Mar 28 '24

The animation joke made me laugh so hard, amazingly done

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u/thatguyned Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Did they also get super meta about when the next season would be coming?

They said atleast a year, atleast they didn't say 2?

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u/flightofwonder Mar 28 '24

I think you're right, they didn't give an exact date unfortunately, but said it'll be a lot quicker than the time gap between Seasons 1 and 2.

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u/thatguyned Mar 28 '24

Holy shit, can you imagine if THIS episode was the reason they delayed the second half?

They had a hitch in S3 production and decided to delay this episode so their little Easter egg joke was still legit.

I'm going to call this #invinciblegate

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u/Harold_Zoid Mar 28 '24

Sing the debat just because of Amazon greed? So they can stretch subscriptions to 4-6 months instead of 2 months.

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u/TerribleParfait4614 Mar 29 '24

Im sure the primary reasons were probably financially motivated rather than for making a throwaway line joke.

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u/n0dic3 Mar 29 '24

God, and the amount of people bitching under the trailer about it not all being released together and I LITERALLY SAID TO THEM "animation takes time, would you rather they overwork their animators" makes this episode a thousand times funnier to me!!

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u/thatguyned Mar 29 '24

The animation was done before the break though, the gap was an artistic meta choice by the show runner to give us a break after the mid-season climax (or so he says)

The more I think about it, the more I'm actually convinced this meta joke COULD have been a contributing factor.

Also they made some promises about "the production gap between S2/3 not being as large as S1/2" before S2 even started airing. Looks like they managed to buy themselves an extra 5 months with a mid-season break if you ask me.

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u/n0dic3 Mar 29 '24

Eh, if they didn't delay it they'd have to spend more time working on season 3 and people would be complaining about that, damned if you do, damned if you don't haha

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u/Trvr_MKA Apr 01 '24

I think it might be so the next season seems less far off

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u/IssaStorm Mar 29 '24

I would rather they not release it to begin with until it's all done. Or better yet, do it weekly or biweekly if you need to stretch it out a bit. Two 4 episode batches 3 months apart is deranged

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u/Glittering_Cod_7716 Mar 29 '24

Yeah my fiancé skipped watching this week and I wished I had just waited until next week to watch it as well tbh. Splitting it up was actually ridiculous man.

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u/PossibleLazy5407 Mar 28 '24

What copium you have. It was definitely because of amazon greed but alright.

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u/hurricane1197 Apr 08 '24

But why would the joke not work if it released earlier?

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u/SaKaly Omni-Man Mar 28 '24

Did they also get super meta about when the next season would be coming?

God I hope not💀

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u/RhymesWithMouthful Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

It took me like twenty seconds to realize that was Tim Goddamn Robinson. 

 This fuckin' world's so fucked up.

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u/SeacattleMoohawks Séance Mod Mar 28 '24

Tim Robinson, Ben Schwartz, Jason Mantzoukas, Seth Rogan. I’m sure I’m missing more. This show has all the best comedic actors in it lol.

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u/RhymesWithMouthful Mar 28 '24

That one Sequid was 40 Sequids?

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u/JuanRiveara Mod Spider Mar 28 '24

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u/RhymesWithMouthful Mar 28 '24

"Marcus, this is very serious, you can't look at gory videos while in the office."

"Gory? That's a cartoon I got on my Prime Video. I'm not in trouble at all."

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u/BlamingBuddha Apr 15 '24

Why can I hear this perfectly in Tim Robinson's voice?

Tell me. I gotta make money off this. It's just too good.

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u/ToxinFoxen Mar 29 '24

How to serve Forty Sequids

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u/reborndiajack Mar 28 '24

Need Jason Sudekis, Tom Gleeson and Greg Davies to make cameos soon

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u/MithranArkanere Abraham Lincoln Mar 28 '24

J. K. Simmons can do comedy like the best of them.

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u/Graynard Mar 28 '24

Paul F Tompkins!

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u/PhanThief95 Mar 28 '24

Walton Goggins too

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u/Legitimate-East9708 7d ago

I thought for sure JK Simmons and Seth Rogen were getting killed off this season, so when they were, I was like alright makes sense.

Then….

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u/VoopityScoop Mar 28 '24

The part where he says "ⁱᵗ ᵏⁱⁿᵈᵃ ˡᵒᵒᵏˢ ˡⁱᵏᵉ ᵃ ᵈⁱᶠᶠᵉʳᵉⁿᵗ ˢʰᵒʷ" is what started to give it away for me. That voice is unmistakable

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u/RhymesWithMouthful Mar 28 '24

"Don't do the voice."

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u/indigenous__nudity Mar 28 '24

Don't fuck with it

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u/Sleeze_ Damien Darkblood Mar 29 '24

This is exactly where I clocked it too lmao

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u/zumabbar Mar 29 '24

that was still him? he sounded so different in that shot i thought he was voiced by kirkman for a while there since it's cory walker comic art style

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u/Ybhryhyn Mar 29 '24

It was specifically made to look like Cory Walker in that brief moment 🤌

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u/Wraithfighter Mar 28 '24

Don't get me wrong, Tim Robinson was great doing that, but it would've been soooo much funnier if they got Robert Kirkman into a booth for that.

I mean, you're already going meta there, why hold back? :D

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u/MrSwarleyStinson Mar 29 '24

So cool Tim Robinson agreed to do the show, even after Steve Yeun used too small a slice

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u/RhymesWithMouthful Mar 29 '24

Well, Steve shouldn't have had such a sloppy mud pie in the first place.

Unprofessional bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '24

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u/RhymesWithMouthful Mar 31 '24

You should know… your wife kissed me on the cheek when I got here. And now look at you. All alone. Everybody's going to party at my house.

Happy birthday, Jacob.

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u/BlamingBuddha Apr 15 '24

(lmao this cracks me up so hard. I love his quotes)

Nobody even likes your house!

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u/UrntheCowpoke Mar 31 '24

Mark Grayson’s house is covered head to toe in shit

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u/m8_is_me Donald Ferguson Mar 28 '24

Takes a llllllllllllAWNG time with that Tim growl

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '24

Roll the window up Crooner

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u/ModeratorH8er Mar 28 '24

Great joke but I feel it’d work better in a show with generally good animation. Cause like we get all this without the particularly special fight scenes.

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u/mpc1226 Mar 28 '24

The fight scene after with the octopus was so bad that it felt reallyyy weird having it directly after that.

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u/MountainBig1915 Mar 28 '24

The PNGs of the bomb explosions made me laugh my ass off

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Mar 29 '24

This is why Anissa had to end it fast. It was embarrassing her too.

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u/ThisHatRightHere Mar 29 '24

Yeah I was honestly kind of insulted after they had that fight directly follow them saying “we use most of our time to make fight scenes look good!”

Granted, there was better animation later in the episode. But to have it be the fight to directly follow the joke left a bit of a bad taste.

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u/Zemahem Mar 29 '24

They left out the part that they sacrifice quality in other fight scenes for the more important ones as well lol.

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u/BlamingBuddha Apr 15 '24

Rex's "explosion" tubes can't disappearing and re-appearing on his body too after he "ran out."

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u/Bartimaeous Mar 30 '24

I’m hoping the animation budget they saved will pay off in the last episode.

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u/Nast33 Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Lampshading like that doesn't work when it takes 2.5 years inbetween seasons and the quality is still so suspect most of the time.

Legend of Korra had much better animation, many fight/action scenes and well animated characters/backgrounds/etc - and 4 seasons 13 episodes apiece got done in almost the same time it toook for Invincible to go from S1 to S2.

Look it up. First season started airing april 2012, 4th season ended airing december 2014. And that was Nickelodeon, not the massive corpo that's Amazon.

I'd tell whoever wrote that to piss off, don't blame this on 'animation is soooo hard' when it was done by choice to not have enough money for production to be done faster. Because it can get done faster and better.

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u/ModeratorH8er Mar 28 '24

Funnily enough just yesterday I was thinking about how I wish the Korra guys did the invincible animation. It sucks but paying a south-Korean studio would undoubtedly get better results than the Californian animation we get.

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u/North_Bite_9836 Mar 28 '24

People were criticizing Korra season 2 for the animation quality dip and it’s still way better than Invincible. Korra made meta jokes about its shitty season 2 plot later but never did something like mention their animation quality, even though they could’ve

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u/2-2Distracted Mar 28 '24

Studio Pierrot already gets enough shit from anime fans for it's adaptations (despite doing some godlike shit from time to time), no way were they gonna screw up Korra, even if they didn't bring it to the same level as Mir

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u/North_Bite_9836 Mar 28 '24

Dude they’ve done some amazing shots in the past. You can’t guarantee decent quality with a long running anime series. That’s why that model is obsolete these days…

I’m surprised they picked up the work instead of another Korean studio, but overwork isn’t uncommon in the anime industry

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u/tythousand Mar 30 '24

Lol I was just thinking about this earlier today, coincidentally. Season 2 of Korra still crushes most shows as far as animation. It just didn’t live up to the incredibly high standard set in season 1. Even so, when I rewatched it a few years ago I totally forgot about the animation change until the Wan episodes

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u/Karkava Monster Girl Apr 01 '24

"AND UNALAQ, THE INCREDIBLY BORING SORCERER OF THE NORTH!"

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u/Nast33 Mar 28 '24

They know their shit and have done some very high quality work at better pace. I'd say let the better skilled workers/studios do what they're good at.

If Kirkman wants his own US based studio to do it that badly, then hire more/better people to either improve quality or get it done faster - waiting so long for such middling animation is the worst of both worlds. I'd say it was worth it if it were Arcane-level visuals, but it's not. That meta bit was pathetic.

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u/SoochSooch The Mauler Twins Mar 28 '24

Didn't realize Kirkman owned Skybound until this post. That explains a lot. Of course he'd rather his company get all the money vs paying a better company to do better work.

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u/Nast33 Mar 28 '24

Nothing against that, but don't offer me a mouldy burger pretending it's a michelin star meal after 2.5 years.

If he's pocketing the cash, he should hire more people so they can bring up their standards, instead of employing a smaller number of animators who are are both overworked and under-delivering.

Just makes me dislike him.

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u/Conscious_Start1213 Apr 02 '24

With the time they had between season 1 and season 2 I don't think they're overworked. I think they just lack the animation skill for it even to be possible for great fight scenes. Anime studios pump out episodes in 1 weeks time and just their standard non-high budget fight scenes are way better. If mappa had the time they had to animate invincible it'd be the greatest looking animation of all time

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u/BlamingBuddha Apr 15 '24

Damn, I would love for MAPPA to animate Invincible.

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u/Anjunabeast Mar 29 '24

That’s how you end up with the train wreck the overworked anime studios in Japan and South Korea are currently facing

Just let the invincible team cook. Be patient for quality episodes.

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u/Nast33 Mar 29 '24

That's not an excuse, they're producing shit animation even after nearly 3 years for 8 measly episodes. If the Koreans and Japanese are overworking their people, just throw them more money so they can hire more people to spread out the work. I care for quality, not inane arguments.

This excuse is absolute dogshit when Kirkman is pocketing Amazon money and he may as well be keeping his own studio understaffed, I don't see how else they can take so long for 320-335 minutes of animation.

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u/Anjunabeast Mar 29 '24

Damn entitled much?

Read the comics if you don’t wanna wait for episodes

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u/Big_Daymo Mar 29 '24

We're paying for the product (Amazon Prime), it's not entitlement to expect a good quality show after nearly 3 years of waiting.

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u/Xciv Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Studio Mir is great. They did My Adventures with Superman so you can get a taste of what they could have done with Invincible in an alternate reality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njAUCWomGdg

I honestly think the peaks of Invincible's animation are as good as Studio Mir. The issue with Invincible is consistency. They have some scenes that look amazing (like the Anissa fight, and Mark's fight with his dad in season 1). But some of the fights just have too many shortcuts and look cheap.

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u/MyARhold30Shots Mar 29 '24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njAUCWomGdg

I don't think there's a single fight in Invincible that looks as good as the average The Legend of Korra fight though. Even the Anissa fight animation was just okay. The one fight in Invincible that I can say had "good" animation was Eve vs her mutated siblings in the Atom Eve episode.

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u/cadwellingtonsfinest Mar 29 '24

Yeah other than literal omniman killing the guardians there's been almost nothing eyebcatching at all

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u/sonicmerlin Mar 30 '24

The show reminds me of Family Guy. The way the characters move is almost like a Flash animation show.

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u/Yrcrazypa Mar 28 '24

My Adventures... was such a good show.

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u/Sillet_Mignon Mar 28 '24

Rip. 

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u/regretfulposts Doc Seismic Mar 28 '24

What happened?

(Like is it going to get another season or was it cancelled?)

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u/forever87 Samantha Eve Wilkins Mar 28 '24

idk what the other redditor is talking about, but season 2 is currently in production

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u/foxfoxal Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

They are doing X-men 97 now and the animation is amazing even on normal moments you get great character animation, not even counting the super fluidity and choreography on the fights and how original they are handling different power sets.

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u/Takonite Mar 28 '24

the animation in my adventures is so good

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u/ModeratorH8er Mar 28 '24

Oh yeah I watched my adventures with superman. Now I feel even more justified in wanting the Korra guys aha.

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u/BoBab Mar 29 '24

Mir also did Voltron which was great as well.

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u/fetorpse Battle Pope Mar 28 '24

The animating part of the animation is done by Korean studio Maven, only the production is done in America, your wish is already granted (almost no shows are animated domestically)

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

the studio you mention is not credited anywhere, where did you get that information?

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u/Xelltrix Mar 28 '24

It's true, but I'm not sure what the labor conditions in South Korea for those kinds of things, though. It's possible they have to put in hours we would deem unreasonable here.

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u/JagneStormskull Monster Girl and Robot Mar 28 '24

I'm not sure what the labor conditions in South Korea for those kinds of things, though. It's possible they have to put in hours we would deem unreasonable here.

I mean, South Korea is a functioning European-style democracy (complete with the US footing a lot of their defense expenses), I'm fairly sure they have reasonable labor laws.

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u/greatteachermichael The Immortal Apr 01 '24

Eh. I live in Korea and Korean working conditions are horrible. Yes, they have labor law but they get ignored all the time. It's getting better though.

I only stay here because I happened to get a rare job that treats me well and gives me 3 day weekends every week.

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u/Xelltrix Mar 28 '24

It's not like I'm implying they aren't developed or something. I know Korean LCS players play FAR more hours during the season than their NA counterparts for instance.

Like just compare the US working expectations to other European countries and see how we are worked to the bone relative to them. Then compare us to Japan and see we're living in luxury compared to their work expectations.

So again, I don't know what the work/life balance is like in South Korea so they may work far more hours than someone working in California would in the same time frame.

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u/greatteachermichael The Immortal Apr 01 '24

Korea and Japan have similar working cultures. The US is super laid back compared to Korea.

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u/Street-Pea1047 Mar 29 '24

should definitely outsource it to korea

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u/thesagenibba Mar 29 '24

what bothers me more than anything is how short the seasons are. i understand animation takes very long but 8 episodes? seasonal anime with some of the best animation you'll ever see runs for 23-24 episodes a season. of course acknowledging the fact that they're usually 20 minutes long and the japanese animation industry is notorious for overworking animators. i still dont believe just 8 episodes after 2 years is warranted

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u/Nast33 Mar 29 '24

It's really not. This isn't a situation where some suit makes ridiculous demands that equate to 9 women pushing out a baby in a month.

It's literally if you want it faster, hire more people since more animators = more frames per day. There aren't actors doing a complicated live action long war scene that takes 2 months to film, you can hire 30 people to animate a long section each handling a minute.

It's all down to how much you want to spend.

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u/Zorphorias Mar 28 '24

Weren't the animators for Korra badly overworked though? I really don't want that to be the price for quality/timely animation, not worth it.

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u/Nast33 Mar 28 '24

I don't know, I haven't read anything about that. Even so, they've been involved in numerous gorgeously produces shows, and there's a way to have top notch production without overworking people. It doesn't have to be well produced with overworking or look like shit without it, there's a middle ground.

Korra's 4 seasons didn't need to be made in 2.5 years, I'd be perfectly fine with 4 - a season per year. It would still look great, not bad at worst and average at best after such a long wait.

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u/Pacify_ Mar 29 '24

In world where Japanese 2d animation exists, its a little hard to take such things seriously.

The animation in invincible is painfully mediocre, no matter how you look at it. Which is fine and all, but its hard to explain the production times of this show on its animation

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u/Yrcrazypa Mar 28 '24

Nickelodeon has oodles more experience with producing animation than Amazon does. Amazon only started actually making animation on their own very recently, most stuff otherwise is just things they paid some companies for the rights to say they had a hand in it.

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u/Nast33 Mar 28 '24

It doesn't matter since Nick didn't produce Korra to which I compared the animation quality and production speed - Korra was produced by South Korean and Japanese(for S2) studios, while Invincible is produced by Kirkman's studio that's doing poor and slow work.

Amazon was just footing the bill, and is even in a better place since Invincible already has a fully fleshed out plot from beginning to end and storyboards so the production should be faster. All they have to do is adapt the issues into episodes and change some bits if necessary.

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u/Magabathanga Mar 28 '24

Yeah, the studio behind this is a fairly new studio. If in not mistaken, Invincible is literally their first 2d project. Idk why Amazon didn't hire more veteran studio for this, they have the money for it. Or at least hire some veteran action animators like those castlevania dudes... this show is really lacking in creative freedom and ambitions when it comes to animation....

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u/Nast33 Mar 28 '24

Apparently it's Kirkman's studio which I also learned today.

Just makes me dislike the guy for pocketing the Amazon cash and not hiring more or better personnel - if other studios can do much faster work on a better level, he's either got it understaffed (scummy of him to pocket all the cash and avoid spending on people) or full with barely competent animators (on him again, hire better people).

No scenario where he looks good with this.

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u/Magabathanga Mar 28 '24

I really hope next few seasons actually have bigger upgrade in animation man..... but at this point idek... how are they gonna handle bigger scale action with this quality....like the war scene really gonna be bunch of PNGs dragged across the screen lmaoo....

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u/d0ntreadthis Mar 29 '24

I feel like the animation jokes ruined my enjoyment of the episode because I couldn't unsee all of the bad animation for the rest of the runtime. I really wish they didn't bother.

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u/YanDuXian Mar 29 '24

It's ridiculous how fans just eat this lampshading stuff up when it's an obvious attempt at making light of the terrible animation quality. Amazon really needs to change the studio

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u/markvii_dev Mar 31 '24

I'm so happy someone pointed this out, when I was watching the scene all I could think about is how silly a meta scene like that was given the quality of the art and the inordinate production time

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u/Anjunabeast Mar 29 '24

Korra had its share of production issues and delays. But tbf that was mostly because of nickelodeon fiending for episodes

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u/Nast33 Mar 29 '24

I'd rather have those issues with that quality of results than what we're getting now. And since several people mentioned concerns of overworking animators in Korea/Japan - I'm leaving that aside since it's not up to me to resolve their work culture problems.

I'm just saying hiring more people leads to faster production, and if they can push out 52 episodes in 2.5 years (at half the runtime equating to 26 Invincible episodes). Even with the overworking concerns, I'd be down for extending their productions 3-4 months per season and we'd still be getting them twice as fast with higher quality.

In comparison we're gotten 16 over more than 3 years with Kirkman's underperforming company, which brings neither speed nor quality.

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u/Anjunabeast Mar 29 '24

Different studio different artstyle. Throw as much money at it as you want it wont look the same as korra unless you get the same team. And you can’t leave it aside cause it’s part of the subject, korra was animated by Asian studios.

Animation takes years. It’s just a fact. Overworking people and burning money isn’t an effective solution. Amazon needs to turn a profit too or else we won’t get any invincible episodes at all.

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u/Nast33 Mar 29 '24

No, not really. It takes less time the more people you have as you can assign chunks to different people, each cut in a scene can be assigned to someone else.

The art style is not hard to nail down either, it's not down to studios, it's down to capable people being paid to do decent work.

But why am I arguing with you, some people just won't stop defending this inept shit. 3 years for this.

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u/Anjunabeast Mar 29 '24

Dawg you’re the one who said you rather have the studio have productions issues.

And who’s arguing it’s a discussion. The thing Reddit’s for.

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u/here_for_the_lulz_12 Comic Fan Mar 29 '24

I get your point, but the exact same joke is in the comics (but about drawing comis, instead of animation), so this was planned and not just to cut corners.

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u/SomeAnonymous Mar 29 '24

Eh, hot take perhaps but this just means the invincible TV show is matching the comics, because the art in the section that was adapted into this joke is really ugly, imo.

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u/dudzi182 Run the Twins Mar 29 '24

To be fair, an 8 episode season of Invincible is longer than a 13 episode season of Korra length-wise. Not excusing Invincible’s mediocre animation though.

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u/haynespi87 Mar 30 '24

I dig that they do xmen 97 fight scnes are lit

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u/_Valisk Mar 29 '24

when it was done by choice to not have enough money for production to be done faster. Because it can get done faster and better.

The long delay was not planned.

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u/Nast33 Mar 29 '24

Are you talking about the 3-4 month midseason pause or the 2.5 year delay between S1 and 2? Because I heard Amazon decided on the mid-season pause, but have heard no such thing of the overall S2 production taking 2.5 years for 8 episodes of middling at best and plain bad at worst quality.

It's simple, more animators hired = more frames produced per day. Either Kirkman is not spending much on staff or his production studio is inept.

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u/_Valisk Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

have heard no such thing of the overall S2 production taking 2.5 years

[1]

With COVID, there was a longer break in production than we wanted there to be. It took some time to rebuild the team. [...] The delays were really just COVID. Making a cartoon is like assembling a factory and letting it run. And because of COVID, we had to shut the factory down. So to get into season 2 and 3, we had to rebuild the factory and get it up and running again, and that took a lot of time.

The official answer for the mid-season delay is also production-related.

[2]

this was the best way to get the show out to the fans, given the circumstances about how the show was coming, like production [...] we just wanted to deliver the show in the best possible way for the fans to enjoy as quickly as possible… Production takes time, and things happen.

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u/sonicmerlin Mar 30 '24

"factory"?

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u/_Valisk Mar 30 '24

Do you not understand the simile?

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u/Necro_Nancy Mar 29 '24

I think it's important to remember, that the people funding the show, and the people actually working on it (writing, animating, etc) are not the same people, and we don't know what constraints those people are under.

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u/falooda1 Mar 28 '24

I thought it was great

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u/sut345 Rudy Conners Mar 28 '24

Wasn't the Anissa fight animation really good? Am I exaggarating? It looked incredible to me. And I think that was the point of the joke

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u/ModeratorH8er Mar 28 '24

As much as I don’t wanna take away from your enjoyment by animation standards it really was nothing special. Even ignoring anime the legend of Korra had better stuff like 10 years ago. Still pretty good tho. Just that for me the dubious animation we get for 90% of the show doesn’t make up for a “pretty good” 10%

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u/sut345 Rudy Conners Mar 28 '24

No problem, at this point I dont think you can anyway lol. Maybe I dont have a good eye for animation, because I've watched Korra and a lot of top-tier anime too , Invincible in major scenes doesn't really look any worse to me, Idk, maybe because I really like the colorful and simplistic art design

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u/AllCity_King Mar 28 '24

That fight scene was excellent, don't let some reddit armchair animator tell you what is and isn't good. I'm right there with you.

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u/ModeratorH8er Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

Please just google like “cool anime fight scene” or smth. You deserve to have better standards than this. A generic 6/10 isekai has comparable (if not better) animation.

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u/AllCity_King Mar 29 '24

The pretentiousness of this comment lmao. Fuck outta here trying to tell me what I should be watching. Take your 6/10 Isekai and get fucked.

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u/kabbajabbadabba Apr 03 '24

the reddit armchair expert blasted 🤡🤡

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u/MyARhold30Shots Mar 29 '24

I'm glad you enjoyed it, I did too in the storytelling sense but objectively calling that scene "excellent" in terms of animation is wild lmao. Like someone else said, look up some anime fights, or watch a legend of korra fight scene.

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u/AllCity_King Mar 29 '24

Get that objectivity outta my face. You're not gonna sway my opinion on how I enjoyed it because there's other better animation out there.

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u/MyARhold30Shots Mar 29 '24

I’m not telling you to not enjoy it. Not like something has to be amazingly animated for it to be enjoyable. I also said I enjoyed it, the animation definitely just wasn’t excellent.

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u/kabbajabbadabba Apr 03 '24

he's dumb, ignore him

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u/thesagenibba Mar 29 '24

not trying to be rude but have you guys only watched a handful of animated shows in your life? there is genuinely amazing animation out there, i just don't believe you could call something that looks more than a couple of frames behind 'really good'. watch a fight scene from practically any shonen made in the last 5 years if you want to see what just 'solid' animation looks like

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u/sut345 Rudy Conners Mar 29 '24

I mean, I only watched a handful of anime but, on the screen there are definitely more particles... But that doesn't really improve my experience much by itself, it's just looks like an artistic choice. They all look great in terms of what matters to me.

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u/kabbajabbadabba Apr 03 '24

what are your top 5? I've only watched avatar, korra, Love death and robots (of which some eps are fkin beautiful), Dragon ball.

I'm looking for more, pls suggest.

any shonen made in the last 5 years if you want to see what just 'solid' animation looks like

example?

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u/thesagenibba Apr 03 '24

regarding shonen that showcase some of the greatest animation in history, take a look at this clip from Jujutsu Kaisen & this other one for a glimpse at truly amazing animation. there's also Frieren which quickly ascended to my favorite anime of all time, animation aside (the animation is ridiculously well done).

those are just a couple clips in regards to 'solid' and beyond animation. my 5 favorite anime of all time, with animation quality disregarded (they all have solid animation regardless) are

Frieren, Mob Psycho 100, Hunter x Hunter, Bocchi The Rock, and Nana.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

it really wasn't, it was very mediocre by current standards

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u/North_Bite_9836 Mar 28 '24

I was pissed we were wasting episode time on a shitty meta joke when animation is already no the selling point of this show. Who thought it was a good idea to be this snarky about one of the most valid complaints for your show? There are preschool shows with better animation lol

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u/portodhamma Mar 29 '24

The joke comes from the comic. Kirkman did the same joke but about repeating panels to fill pages

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u/Cautious-Affect7907 Mar 28 '24

Yeah you would also think they’d be aware the scene at comic con in background is literally just character models copy pasted throughout the scene, but with no movement whatsoever.

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u/nerdguy1138 Mar 28 '24

That was the joke though?

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u/CTeam19 Mar 28 '24

Like Psych making fun of the Mentalist. The joke they had worked because they were first. Harley Quin show with 4 seasons(46 episodes) and a special in 4 years would be a better making the joke.

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u/Kinkybtch Mar 30 '24

I'm pretty sure the writers were directly responding to complaints about the art in that scene. 

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u/STFU-Sanguinet Apr 01 '24

They ain't One Punch Man.

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u/BlamingBuddha Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

Yeah man I've especially noticed a lot of these stills seem MS Paint level. I can just see the paint bucket auto filling in the outlines in my head for some of these scenes, no joke lmao. For example Eve's hair in the front. Specifically (for example) when Cecil comes to visit her at her 'Treehouse,' if anyone wants a look.

Not to say I don't love this series. Quite a lot. I just wish they'd invest some more in animation like some animes that are doing way worse in numbers yet are able to texturize.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '24

Yep, that joke didn't land. It was just cringe

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u/Public_Height6011 Mar 28 '24

That made me crack up!

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u/MisterTheKid Battle Beast Mar 28 '24

The topper here is that what was a great joke was then used to heighten our understanding of the care they put into the breakup scene and how important they viewed it

When the actual breaking up starts they have this shot just on ambers mouth as she’s talking before it shows her face

Just really an awesome way to have your cake with the joke and eat it too by using it in a dramatic reference

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u/Jokonaught Mar 29 '24

You mean the scene with such caring shots of Mark's mouth being covered by Amber's hair?

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u/Poniibeatnik Atom Eve Mar 28 '24

Yeah I love it its awesome lol

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u/The_Banana_Man_2100 Steven Yeun Mar 28 '24

It's SO meta I can't stop laughing and I had to come here to see what other people had to say about it,.

It was geniusly "animated".

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u/TycoStrand Mar 28 '24

I just cackled as he was explaining the animation. it was perfect

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u/EminemsDaughterSucks Mar 29 '24

I hope they tone it down with the meta references and winks to the audience though. This doesn't have to be like the MCU.

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u/m8_is_me Donald Ferguson Mar 28 '24

Felt completely the same. Absolutely hilarious way to break a fourth wall just a hint

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u/AKOchoa Mar 29 '24

Then Mark specifically starting he was going to pay close attention the rest of the season 😂 he said it as I was thinking it and I really did for the rest of the episode

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u/NationalEmployee7546 Mar 30 '24

This is a nice rework of a joke from the comics with the same setup. Instead of the comic creator talking about cost cutting methods with hiding the characters mouths, it’s about reusing the same panels for dialogue between characters (which of course uses the same panels between Mark and himself).

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u/Karkava Monster Girl Apr 01 '24

I was really wondering how they would adapt that meta gag, and it worked pretty well.

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u/JustAStarcoShipper Mar 28 '24

The more it went on, the harder I was laughing.

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u/Ok_Vegetable_1452 Mar 28 '24

It was just a bit cute. no lie. but they cant tell me they cant find twenty good enough interns who would work on this for free.

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u/holdmybewbs Mar 28 '24

Yeah but then they kept with the shitty animation all to save it for Anissa flying through the sea creature for a 3 second sequence. As I was watching the beginning at the comic con, it was so difficult watching the background characters be still as statues.

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u/NicholasStarfall War Woman Mar 28 '24

It's kinda undercut by the fact that the animation is never that good but it was funny

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u/Only-Newspaper-8593 Mar 28 '24

MAPPA animators crying in the corner

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u/Lost_Fox__ Mar 29 '24

I thought it was a bit on the nose. I liked they were drawing attention to it, but I didn't like how it felt like they were letting you know the tricks, when they are so obvious, and it can make the show feel so low budget.

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u/Significant_Product1 Mar 29 '24

I feel like the animation joke would’ve been funny if the animation was good throughout the show up damn it feels like they’re cutting corners on everything

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u/Animegx43 Mar 29 '24

Honestly, just seeing them talk for that long like that just felt wholesome, even if it was just so the show could make fun of itself.

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u/LeGrandLucifer Mar 30 '24

I loved it. Kudos to them.

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u/NerdLawyer55 Mar 31 '24

Just amazing 😂

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u/fritzpauker Mar 31 '24

drawn out too long imo. it was funny for like 15 seconds

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u/QuarantinoFeet Apr 01 '24 edited Apr 01 '24

It would have worked better if it was actually a joke instead of just being a good description of the show. 

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u/OCGamerboy Mar 28 '24

Agreed. It was so self aware

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Mar 28 '24

I felt like we were getting roasted, but a good type of roasted

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u/PowerOhene Mar 28 '24

That was the greatest "unintentional" 4th wall break i have seen, since none of the characters pulled a Deadpool, but it has similar energy

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u/DestinyHasArrived101 Mar 28 '24

Very much so loved it

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u/thesagenibba Mar 29 '24

never seen something so meta before. it was also really well done; wasn't corny/cringe, but fit super well within the context

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u/hoseja Mar 30 '24 edited Mar 30 '24

It was overstretched and you need to actually back that joke up with quality, which considering the abysmal drop in this episode...

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u/LeftHandedFapper Séance Dog Apr 02 '24

Check out Gintama if you're at all interested in anime if you liked that

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u/99_Herblore_Crafting Space Racer Apr 02 '24

I didn’t appreciate them taking up episode time for this joke; I thought it could have been a great mid-season advertisement though.

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u/mknsky Mar 29 '24

I shouted “Oh fuuuuuck you” and promptly rewound to watch it again.