r/Invincible • u/TheDarkMuz • Nov 30 '23
In case you're wondering why the Insectussy was worth it COMIC SPOILERS
Lol we were robbed by Amazon indeed
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u/delerio2 Nov 30 '23
Bug-ussy so good he made a Viltrumate change his ways
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u/Repulsive_Being5281 Nov 30 '23
That was debbie, the bug-ussy just sealed the deal.
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u/Magic_Johnson_420 Nov 30 '23
Debussy? Isn't that the French composer?
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u/metalflygon08 Reanimen Nov 30 '23
Always finish on Bach, never DeBussi.
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u/69420over Nov 30 '23
Oh shit what is this from? Is this someone’s stand up.. I swear I heard it recently
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u/metalflygon08 Reanimen Nov 30 '23
Its a Family Guy skit where Pete is looking to buy some records of classical music. The shop owner says DeBussi is amazing, but when having a listening session you should always end it on Bach.
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u/Garlic-Rough Nov 30 '23
I hate how I will never see DeBussi the same way again because of your comment
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u/boogers19 Burger Mart Nov 30 '23
There's more Viltrumites. With much stronger loyalties than Nolan ever had.
The bugussy gets em all.
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u/County_Difficult Nov 30 '23
Bruh really can't fucking escape jjfolk 🤦♂️ fk this thread
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u/MigrantTwerker Dec 01 '23
It's infected all of comic/manga reddit. Every sub. I'm so glad I'm current on JJK manga or I'd be furious.
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u/County_Difficult Dec 01 '23
Trust me, I know. People lose their minds a lot especially when there's a week break
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u/RiflemanLax Nov 30 '23
“Some kids might be watching this. Tone down the boobs and ass, but… leave the violence.”
-Amazon, probably
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u/schebobo180 Nov 30 '23
Yeah I’ve always found it funny how people make a shit storm about T&A but have zero issues showing the most disgusting and brutal violence on screen.
I know that people are trying to stop seeming pervy but there is still something odd about it.
Reminds me of the discourse around Mortal Kombat 1, and how the series has gradually reduced the skimpiness of outfits. On one hand I get it, but on the other hand they have ratchets up the violence to hilariously OTT levels.
Like I just don’t get how someone is ok developing a game where the thanksgiving themed fatality is literally one fighter forcing food into another fighter and having it burst out of their faces with blood and guts, but are like “eww!” When one of their female characters is showing too much skin.
At the end of the day though, the developers should feel free to creat whatever they want but like I said its just weird.
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u/tyrenanig Nov 30 '23
lol I was about to comment about this. MK community is so weird when people are fine with the gruesome violence, even when it’s the female characters being dismembered on screen. But when it’s about them showing some skins? “Nah not in my game”
It feels like NRS bounced hard and overcorrect into the other side of the spectrum. Even a little bit of skins got censored, like how Nitara has pants with human skin color instead of showing thighs.
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u/Klientje123 Nov 30 '23
I think removing skimpy clothing is NRS way of 'maturing' the games and making things more serious, grounded, realistic idk.
But I don't know why. It doesn't make it better. It just makes it different. The dudes are shredded and shirtless and they haven't changed that in 20 years so it's weird they focus on redesigning women like that.
I hope the designers genuinely want this and this isn't some higher up saying ''old mortal kombat outfit not good need change or people will hate our game'' or whatever
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u/downvoteawayretard Dec 01 '23
It’s basically all modern media. We are completely fine with showing the most graphic gore and violence imaginable but are so sexually repressed as a society even the slightest amount of skin showing unsettles us.
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u/Cicada_5 Nov 30 '23
Violence is actually relevant to Invincible and Mortal Kombat. There's no rule you have to include equal amounts of boobs and ass if you have graphic violence.
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u/schebobo180 Dec 01 '23
I agree you shouldn’t. But like I said, there’s something morbidly fascinating about how we perceive violence and anything related to sex.
They are two very different things, but like I said I’ve always found it wierd when people get so squeamish about sex but are completely fine with some of the most gruesome violence in ever. Especially when the person is squeamish in “moral grounds”.
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u/Cicada_5 Dec 01 '23
To paraphrase someone who once discussed this, "your regular boner and your murder boner" are supposed to be separate. The American Pie movies, like them or hate them, are based on titillation and nudity is expected there. If they suddenly started throwing in lots of graphic violence, I'm sure we'd see complaints from the same people accusing Invincible and Mortal Kombat of being prudish.
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u/Lemonkainen Dec 01 '23
I think it’s similar to why people hate Dolores Umbridge more than Voldemort. She’s the sort of evil you’re actually likely to have to deal with in real life. Over the top violence is less likely to bother people because it’s pretty easy, usually, to tell that the media isn’t actually endorsing committing acts of violence, and even if it does it’s in a context that’s unlikely to be relevant to people’s lives. Women in skimpy outfits to appeal to the male gaze, on the other hand, is something that every woman has seen happen in real life. It’s also a lot harder to tell if the woman in question just happens to dress that way, or if it was done to treat her as a sex object. Even if you want to show empowered sexual women it requires a lot of nuance and careful framing of the sexiness to make sure it doesn’t come across as gratuitous. It’s much easier, therefore, to just avoid it entirely unless the story requires it.
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u/idontlikeshowers 15h ago
What you said is great. I bet your argument was just reduced down to being a prude but I see that you actually get it.
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u/NostrilRapist Nov 30 '23
Good luck censoring the incoming rape scene!
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u/RiflemanLax Nov 30 '23
As other folks point out, the insectoid folks are being changed up for PC purposes. I get it. No complaints really, I’m just not going to miss a dig at Amazon.
Mark getting raped, that could be a talking point though. I’d bet it gets left in, but maybe the screen goes black or something so the audience knows but they don’t have to show it.
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u/NostrilRapist Nov 30 '23
I'm against censoring but honestly, that scene was quite disturbing in the comic I might've skipped it either way
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u/strange_dogs Nov 30 '23
Honestly, cutting to black and just leaving the audio could make enough of an impact without being too graphic.
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u/NoCarsJustKars Nov 30 '23
Love the “I’m against censoring unless it’s something I feel uncomfortable with.” Dude think other peeps other yourself. Especially if it meaningless ones like sexy bug people.
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u/NostrilRapist Dec 01 '23
You misunderstood -- I didn't imply "I'm ok with censorship because I don't like it", I wanted to say I would skip it regardless if it was in, as it was disturbing for me
Even then, censorship is bad and they shouldn't cut that scene. It's kind of on point with Invincible's grim mood
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u/labree0 Nov 30 '23
As other folks point out, the insectoid folks are being changed up for PC purposes. I get it. No complaints really, I’m just not going to miss a dig at Amazon.
yeah i mean, god forbid we treat women as women and less like attractive objects we keep around for banging.
I am 100% happy with the changes they made. insect people are more than just insects with booba, they are people.
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u/parkingviolation212 Nov 30 '23
yeah i mean, god forbid we treat women as women and less like attractive objects we keep around for banging.
How many impossibly buff and shirtless guys routinely appear in comics again?
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u/labree0 Nov 30 '23
How many impossibly buff and shirtless guys routinely appear in comics again?
and this comic is full of those? because i see literally dozens of different shapes of men, and only "overweight" and "teenage body" in the original comic.
The TV show has been better about this, especially with the insect people, but it still isn't perfect.
Theres a difference between "superheros have literal superhero bodies" and "this entire race of insect people completely separate from humans deep in space has the most common attractive features of a human woman". if every superhero woman in the show was a bombshell, i wouldn't really have a problem with that. its when every woman in the show has that body shape that it becomes a problem.
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u/phatassnerd Let me break it down for you Mark Nov 30 '23
I find it funny when people try to act like the only reason women shouldn’t be objectified is because kids might see it.
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u/zorfog The Mauler Twins Nov 30 '23
I think it’s more just… societal standards have adjusted?
Like, in a lot of comics from 2000s and earlier, you’ll see women drawn like the bugs here - that is, super busty and voluptuous. I just started reading the comics and notice Eve and Debbie look like this too
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u/sfinney2 Robot Nov 30 '23 edited Nov 30 '23
Adjusted to what? More accepting of extreme violence but more prudish? Cause I think that's basically what they're saying.
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u/labree0 Nov 30 '23
adjusted to treat women less like attractive objects we keep around and more like people.
The extreme violence exists because its how viltrumites fight, but there was 0 reason to keep women as just attractive background objects.
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u/sfinney2 Robot Nov 30 '23
I don't think Kirkman does that at all, the female characters in Invincible are awesome no matter what they look like imo.
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u/labree0 Nov 30 '23
i never said kirkman does that.
but lets be real, an entire society of conventionally humanoid attractive insect people literally made for banging is very fan service-y.
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u/sfinney2 Robot Nov 30 '23
First, I'm pretty sure human torsos on ant bodies is closer to body horror than attractive.
But second, even if there is fan service - which could involve any character of any gender appearing intentionally sexy - I dont see it as inherently sexist. Movies, comics, novels, media in general is full of sexually attractive people to please the audience. So, if it bothers you anyway and is not sexist (which I would agree there is a line) I'd say you were being prudish.
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u/zorfog The Mauler Twins Nov 30 '23
No one’s blaming Kirkman, just describing a general trend in comics, movies, and other media, especially prior to like 2010
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u/throwaway332434532 Nov 30 '23
They definitely did tone down the violence. Compared to the comic there’s way less random organs and brains falling out
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u/G_I_Joe_Mansueto Nov 30 '23
To paraphrase Brennan Lee Mulligan and the Drawfee gang, what's been done here is a sin and a crime on a zooilogical level. These mammalian breasts imply the existance of bug milk.
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u/Unlimitles Nov 30 '23
im sure no one actually noticed it, but when mark said that his dad "found mom"
he was referring to how similar their personalities were, even though it's a completely different species.
Nolan found an Alien woman with the same personality/mannerisms as Debbie, and Mark Noticed.
I compliment them on that Detail, because I don't think most people would pick up on nor appreciate that.
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u/iamtheshade Nov 30 '23
So Omniman is just collecting pets of different species.
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u/Klientje123 Nov 30 '23
Maybe, but does he have a choice? He said himself he's gonna live a long ass time. And it's either this or be alone. And he has alot of 'human' emotion (especially compared to the average Viltrumite) he gets attached to people.
It may be kinda messed up, but he just doesn't have alot of choices for a normal life imo
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u/real_human_player Dec 01 '23
Nolan just has a type. I doubt he was looking for another Debbie. Debbie is probably just another version of countless other lovers.
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u/FlopsMcDoogle Abraham Lincoln Nov 30 '23
More like 2-5%. Viltrumite genes be strong, yo.
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u/Anomolus-man Nov 30 '23
Nah this is going to be in the show, they only started dressing like this later, this panel is way down the line.
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u/Repulsive_Being5281 Nov 30 '23
I'm OK with galactic genocide but fucking anthropomorphic bugs is unforgivable.
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u/ExoticShock The Astounding Wolf-Man Nov 30 '23 edited Nov 30 '23
This isn't The Bee Movie I wanted to see.
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u/Scrample2121 Nov 30 '23
2 arms In front to push it back, 2 arms in back to spread it open. Ideal female body unlocked.
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u/Cute_Event_4216 Debbie Grayson Nov 30 '23
By god the viltrumites were 100% right to destroy that civilization.
Why destroy the rest of the bugs though like it was Omni man who fucked one of them.
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u/EvenBetterCool Nov 30 '23
If they are like Earth insects, Ultraman just sat in a corner with some egg sacs
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u/ZoeyZoestar Nov 30 '23
Men can't appreciate female characters unless they can masturbate to them
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u/Luketanyr Nov 30 '23
Speak for yourself I can masturbate to both versions just fine
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u/TTurt115 Nov 30 '23
But that's how she looked in the comic. If anything her outfit is more detailed. This is such a weird thing to notice especially since the second image hasn't even happened yet
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u/zorfog The Mauler Twins Nov 30 '23
This is disappointing. I thought there would be more appreciation for little titties
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u/XMattyJ07X War Woman Nov 30 '23
Idk why people keep saying this when we haven’t even got to this part yet.
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u/sfinney2 Robot Nov 30 '23
To stir shit up, they probably don't know the comic even and just saw the picture somewhere.
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u/_b3rtooo_ Nov 30 '23
Love this meme, but I am always blown away by the people who genuinely wish they would have left literal BUG titties in the show lmao cmooooon.
The OVER-sexualization of comic book characters has often been pointed as a reason why the genre couldn’t get mainstream and reach the female audience. It’s a sacrifice that doesn’t hurt the franchise at all and allows for a wider audience
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u/Sparkz23 Dec 15 '23
Considering the current state of Marvel comics, I would say this was a major L. Men are still the overwhelming majority of comics consumer base, despite many, many attempts to attract the women audience. And our sexy drawings got axed in many instances.
Not everything needs to "appeal to a wider audience"
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u/_b3rtooo_ Dec 15 '23
What do you think about the "doesn't hurt the industry" point though. I just really don't think it has to be borderline ecchi to attract a male audience
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u/nude_tayne69 Nov 30 '23
How come it’s a planet of preying mantis ppl and not a planet of Leylas from Futurama
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u/gamenameforgot Dec 01 '23
it's weird we have a show where peoples' heads got popped and their eyeballs fly out, people get judo chopped and disembowled but we can't get a damn sexy insect woman
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u/SnooHesitations9434 Dec 01 '23
I don't get it... I need a second picture for comparison I guess. I've only seen the show
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u/Sangi17 Nov 30 '23
Invincible fans: “I can’t wait to see people’s reaction to the weird sexy bugs. It’s gonna be crazy.”
Amazon: unsexys the bug ladies
Invincible fans: “WHAT THE FUCK”
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u/Juinyk Battle Beast Nov 30 '23
no....I'm thinking Amazon actually fixed it. Why do they need to be overly sexualized?
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u/Marca-Texto Nov 30 '23 edited Nov 30 '23
Because the final boss took over the planet and made all the bug girls his army breeders so he’d obviously make them dress like sex slaves?
That isn’t supposed to be a pleasing image. He’s the bad guy, you aren’t meant to like what he does
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u/ChequyLionYT Debbie Grayson Nov 30 '23
Yeah, well... we haven't gotta there have we? Nolan wouldn't dress them like that. We'll have to see if Freddie Mercury does.
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u/evilpartiesgetitdone Nov 30 '23
I'd say you got the wrong guy but he also looks like Freddie so whatever
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u/ChequyLionYT Debbie Grayson Nov 30 '23
A joke people have been making to avoid outright saying his name for Spoilers.
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u/SpringPedal Nov 30 '23
Desexualizing the bugs while giving Mark and Nolan bigger asses. That’s power a move.
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u/TheAnimeKnower36 May 05 '24
Is this one of those cases if after you sleep with one female. Do they eat you afterwards?
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u/zackman12312 Nov 30 '23
Another show cursed with 8 episode seasons and rushed story lines. Glad to see it all animated but nervous to see how much gets cut out for tv.
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u/TheDarkMuz Nov 30 '23
I know what they will definitely cut...of you no what I mean...Mark can take alot of things but Amazon won't want to show that
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u/zackman12312 Nov 30 '23
Yeah, well see though. Its got potential for a powerful scene i think and theyd be fools to cut that out imo but im sure youre right and were gonna get jipped.
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u/JustyB76 Nov 30 '23
Honestly, it's about on par with the translations of all the other characters from the comic to the show. They turned down the horniness about 20-30%. Just look at the comic designs for Atom Eve, Amber, and even Debbie. It's a good change IMO as the page-filling gazongas and cheeks were a little distracting, especially during some of the heavier scenes.
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u/soge_king420 Nov 30 '23
This guy when a big breasted woman walks into a funeral to morn: “UM, CAN YOU PLEASE LEAVE! IM TRYING TO TAKE THIS FUNERAL SERIOUSLY BUT I CANT BECAUSE I KEEP LOOKING AT YOUR HUGE TITS!!!”
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u/brjder Nov 30 '23
i always laugh when the thicc bugs image is posted, due to the totally inconspicuous massive white rectangle in the middle of it.