r/Invincible • u/BrichardRurphy • Nov 23 '23
The most unexpected part of the comic for me COMIC SPOILERS
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u/Infamous-Laugh-7796 Brit Nov 23 '23
Didn’t all the wives meet each other when robot had them or something
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u/zingerpond The Mauler Twins Nov 23 '23
Yes, they all looked kinda pisst and many of them had small children. Kregg tries to talk about how he loves them all and then kinda comically suddenly says he's needed in space and just leaves
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u/awakenDeepBlue Nov 23 '23
I remember that one of them didn't look pissed, and it was hilarious.
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u/Relevant_Scallion_38 Nov 24 '23
Actually it was like 3 of them. Some looked angry, some looked confused, others looked worried for him.
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u/Sir_Gwan Nov 24 '23
My favourite is always that one pink haired woman who's just chilling on the sofa with her baby, so nonchalant about Kregg's multiple other wives.
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u/AdStunning2459 Subway Train Nov 23 '23
And he told them to talk to each other, like, tf are they supposed to talk about 😭
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u/boogers19 Burger Mart Nov 24 '23
Visitation days?
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u/Kostya_M Nov 24 '23
I mean he can fly around the world in minutes. Not like it's hard to visit multiple families
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u/boogers19 Burger Mart Nov 24 '23
That has nothing to with these women deserving some sort planning and structure in their children's lives.
It really doesn't matter how fast he can move if 4 different kids all have softball games at the same time that 5 more have ballet recitals. In 9 different cities.
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u/Eastern_Kick7544 Nov 23 '23 edited Nov 23 '23
I like to think they eventually forgave him and had one huge fucking family.
Edit: I also love the idea that he bought and rides a Harley. Biker viltrumites are way more dope than the shit you can buy in town.
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u/Frequent_Camera1695 Nov 23 '23
not every woman is ok with polygamy just because their husband/lover has superpowers.
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u/Eastern_Kick7544 Nov 23 '23
Yeah I know. It’s not even about women I’d hate to be in that position. but I like the idea of all those kids being raised around thier siblings and in a loving community. If it takes a village to raise a human I can’t imagine how much effort it takes to raise a viltrumite.
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u/potatoeman26 Nov 23 '23
Same as a normal kid. At least until they’re around 18
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u/TheMotherFucker420 Nov 23 '23
Nah, mark was a late bloomer. Not all of them get there powers at 18.
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u/Eastern_Kick7544 Nov 23 '23
Seems like if they live thousands of years 18 is a human construct.
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u/Frousteleous The Sequids Nov 24 '23
18 is currently a human construct, but it sure has some important uses.
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u/potatoeman26 Nov 23 '23
18 is when the hybrids gain their powers, using Mark as a reference
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u/Haram_Barbie Nov 23 '23
Terra gets her powers at 5, and Lucans son gets his pretty young also. Marky was well under 18 too. I think Mark was just an outlier
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u/TheMotherFucker420 Nov 23 '23
He was a late bloomer.
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u/Morbidmort Nov 24 '23
The other examples we have are either not human hybrids or are only 25% human.
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u/Eastern_Kick7544 Nov 23 '23
Yes I know but I’d say they are still children considering the lifespan
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u/potatoeman26 Nov 23 '23 edited Nov 24 '23
I’d say it depends entirely on physical development. They live long but still mature the same as humans. It’s just they don’t grow old like we do
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u/Doctor_moose02 Nov 23 '23
He crashes it on purpose as a party trick to add to his wife collection
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u/Eastern_Kick7544 Nov 23 '23
That makes it better. I’m picturing a fucked up akira slide where he just walks away
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u/Negativety101 Nov 24 '23
"Space Racer!"
"What do you want Viltrumite?"
"I want to know where to get an awesome space bike for my son's 16th birthday!"
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Nov 23 '23
It’s so interesting that Viltrumites are inherently capable of empathy and compassion as a species, but their culture forbid them from expressing such virtues.
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u/MemeNRG Nov 23 '23
I love the deconstruction of their ways of life and culture and how they begin to value life instead of taking it constantly
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u/Sir_Toaster_9330 Nov 23 '23
that's like 90% of most warrior cultures on Earth
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u/Skafflock Nov 23 '23
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u/maledin Allen the Alien Nov 23 '23
That ork in the middle. Imagine how inconvenient everything would be to do if you replaced your lower jaw with… that.
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u/Mrwright96 Nov 24 '23
And some off earth too, viltriumites, Kryptonians, Saiyans…
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u/Negativety101 Nov 24 '23
The Zentradi start going native if they hear pop songs, and they had no culture other than war.
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u/Natural_Chance1008 Battle Beast Nov 23 '23
It reminds me of Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Monogamy is discouraged. Hedonism and orgies are encouraged. The main characters are often fighting against their own instincts to conform to the societal norms of the book.
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u/coulduseafriend99 Nov 23 '23
somewhat like the Trisolarans. Nice, hadn't made that connection before.
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u/ranni- Nov 24 '23
i feel like the trisolarans are way more sympathetic an alien menace than the viltrumites, though. they're truly in a kill-or-be-killed-or-solve-an-unsolvable-problem-in-physics situation.
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u/coulduseafriend99 Nov 24 '23
Yeah it's definitely a much more brutal meat grinder of an environment that doesn't allow deviation from strict survival. As to how they were able to develop super-advanced technology in the first place, well, I suppose it's better not to think about it too deeply, maybe (the easy answer is that they're just a much older civilization than humanity)
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u/ranni- Nov 24 '23
yeah, best not to think about it. three body problem is really good at having it's cake and eating it too with the big sci-fi concepts. sometimes it's just a parable, sometimes it gets into the actual science, and it's very good about knowing which will actually further the storytelling.
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u/NoTale5888 Nov 24 '23
They murdered all the ones who disagreed with them when before they went on a galactic rampage.
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u/helimelinari Nov 24 '23
I think they have never been able to change in this manner because all tge planets they conqured were bug or squid planets up until now.
Humans, who are physically looks same with them were able to create that empathy I think.
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u/Royal_Locksmith6045 Nov 24 '23
It reminds me more and more of Dragon Ball Z
The Saiyans in its early history were actually very peaceful, but over time they became more and more of a warrior race spent on conquering worlds. They became cruel and heartless, but only because of their priorities. Vegeta proved they could be good.
Lol I love the parallels.
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u/nebulagazer5 Donald Ferguson Nov 23 '23
Now that you said it like that it reminds of the Jedi order from Star wars and how they also forbid relationships
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u/Medium-Science9526 Comic Fan Nov 23 '23
Yeah the turn around was pretty swift but then again Nolan switched fast after Mark's birth. Kregg is undeniably the best though.
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u/Tbrahhh23 Nov 23 '23
Doesn't Kreig ( I think that was his name ) have like 10+ baby mamas lmao
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u/zingerpond The Mauler Twins Nov 23 '23
He's named Kregg
and he fucks
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u/The-Kylo-Ren Nov 23 '23
Wonder who his VA is going to be
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u/OCGamerboy Nov 23 '23
IMDb confirmed it will be Clancy Brown.
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u/withinallreason Nov 23 '23
We theoretically could hear him as soon as next episode if they compress Thraxa into one episode. At the latest we'll probably hear him in Episode 5 though, so it'll be cool to see
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u/IAmTheGodkiller Nov 23 '23
I love Clancy Brown, one of the all-time greatest VAs imo
But his voice is absolutely not what I imagined for this guy lol
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u/Deinocerites Nov 23 '23
It’s just going to be a Viltrumite Mr. Crabs. Jk, Clancy Brown is amazing.
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u/bigsteven34 Nov 23 '23
“Oh no, I’m needed in space…”
I lost it at that line!
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u/Kostya_M Nov 24 '23
You gotta figure at least a couple thought that was an excuse and got even more pissed
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u/SWPartridge Nov 23 '23
I love that some of them don't even seem mad 😂
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u/phoenixmusicman Nov 23 '23
Idk they all look either mad or upset to me except for the one at the back who is like 🤔
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u/atlasbear Nov 23 '23
I would love for them to flesh out these characters struggle with understanding and appreciating humanity. One of my favorite parts of the series
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u/Eastern_Kick7544 Nov 23 '23
I agree. It’s kind of rushed in the comics but it’s a really cool plot point
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u/BatBoy100 Nov 23 '23
I love comics, and invincible is my favorite, but it seems to be a common thing and I think it's just because of the medium
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u/klw2264 Nov 23 '23
How great would it be if there was one episode of Kregg just trying to tend to his dozens of wives and children all over the planet, along with his viltrumite responsibilities?
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u/N0VAZER0 Nov 24 '23
yeah I'd really like a slice of life episode that jumps between these three integrating into human society
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Nov 24 '23
I want to see Kregg's heroic turn when he comes to save one of his girlfriends turned into him struggling for a minute and we as the audience don't know what he'll do before he suddenly blasts onto the scene.
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u/Beneficial-Advance98 Dec 04 '23
Honestly i would love that, especially Kregg and Lucan being shown genuine affection for the first time in there absurdly long lives, and having to show it back it. It would be weirdly relatable to a lot of guys i know lol
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u/Invincible-spirit Nov 23 '23
Nolan was right
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u/awakenDeepBlue Nov 23 '23
Damn, human women are just something else.
They can consistently undo centuries of indoctrination.
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u/CorrectDrive2520 Nov 24 '23
So are human men because didn't the female virtual might settle down with a human male and have a child with him?
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u/VampiroMedicado Nov 24 '23
Didn't she also rape Mark?
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u/TheChartreuseKnight Nov 24 '23
And had his kid as a result.
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u/VampiroMedicado Nov 24 '23
Didn't remember that, I need to buy the Omnibus to re-read it next year.
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u/TechWiz717 Nov 24 '23
Yes and it was fucked but it was before she’d changed. She regretted what she did, never got a chance to tell Mark herself, but Eve and Nolan did get told before she died.
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u/Spiderwest Nov 24 '23
Both of the female Viltrumites who had meaningful appearances in the comics (Anissa and Thula) also ended up in a relationship with human men.
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u/TEmpTom Nov 23 '23
This is why the evil Invincibles of the alternate universes made no sense to me. It took less than a year for Earth culture to assimilate even the most ruthless Viltrumites, people who were conquering, raping, and genociding across the Galaxy for millennia.
It made no sense that Mark, a person who was born and raised on Earth with zero exposure to Vilturmite culture, to suddenly turn into a megalomaniac murderous psychopath.
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u/coulduseafriend99 Nov 23 '23
iirc a bunch of them turned evil psychopath after losing their Atom Eves, hence the one with harem of lookalikes
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u/nerdguy1138 Nov 24 '23
That's the other thing. Alternate!Eve died stupidly. She knew he was going to kill her and she's still just throwing weak ass energy balls at him?!
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u/SharknadosAreCool Titan Nov 23 '23
i think it's more that in other universes, mark is exposed to viltrumite culture way earlier. i dunno I'd it's said in the comics, but i personally think the reason invincible is who he is in the main timeline is just because he got his powers later. more time for omniman to crack, more time for Mark to be a human, and a much more mature Mark than if he got his powers as like, a 14 year old kid. if omniman is harder on Mark when he's younger then he probably never even feels loved beyond his mom.
if omniman never cracks due to Debbie + 18 years of Mark, and Mark doesn't crack because he gets shitcanned by his dad if he does, then the other viltrumites never need to infiltrate Earth and don't feel that, either.
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u/Maytree Nov 24 '23
I figured that in the other universes Debbie died when Mark was very young, most likely because Nolan got careless and a supervillain killed her. That would throw Nolan back into his Viltrumite mindset and he would start training Mark pretty brutally and indoctrinating him in Viltrumite attitudes. "Think Mark. Don't get attached to these creatures. They die far too easily, just like your mother did." "Yeah, Dad, I'm never risking feeling that loss again. They're cattle."
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u/mods-are-liars Nov 24 '23
I don't overthink infinite universe inconsistencies, angstrom said Invincible turned in "most" realities but that's mostly meaningless when talking about infinity.
An infinite number of Marks went evil and an infinite number of Marks were good. Don't worry about it, it served its purpose telling the story.
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u/Philorsum Nov 24 '23
Its probably just most of the ones hes seen or has knowledge of.
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u/nameless_stories Brit Nov 24 '23
If were being honest, most of the viltrumites turning good after a few months is more unbelievable than all those evil versions of Mark tbh.
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u/N0VAZER0 Nov 24 '23
I always thought Angstrom was talking out his ass when he stated most universes have an evil Invincible, a good Invincible verse is as infinitely likely to happen as an evil Invincible verse just by the nature of what the multiverse is.
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u/BustinArant Spider-Man Nov 24 '23
Yeah I figured he made them evil in some cases with his wicked meddlings.
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u/teby____ Nov 24 '23
always assumed it was because in this universe its mentioned frequently that he’s a late bloomer of his powers, which is rare for Viltrumites thus Nolan didnt have time to indoctrinate him. Whereas, most commonly in other universes he gets his powers earlier thus having Nolan indoctrinate him much sooner.
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u/StarshipTuna Cage the Elephant Nov 23 '23
I hope they spend more time on this part in the show
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u/El_grandepadre Nov 24 '23
I would even take a 5 minute montage of them settling down, meeting their partners, getting to know them, and then going from their cold "I just need to breed" face to a more caring expression.
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u/BestBoogerBugger Nov 23 '23
I silmultaniously LOVE and HATE this part, all for the same reason.
The idea of memembers of alien god species being affected by different culture and emotional intimacy, realizing that their minds and heart work no different from everyone else, due to being denied emotional maturity via fascist empire doctrine for centuries not being ready to deal with these emotions and succumbing to them....is so magical.
But at the same time...
It's so fucking goofy.
These guys look less like cold warriors discovering what it's like to be human for the first time, and more of "autistic kids are figuring their emotions" LOL
Like Omni-man took decades to become all lovey dovey over his wife, and it took him having a kid to become more human. Yet these chucklefks start behaving like this after...what....year or two on Earth? Couple months?
Like are you seriously telling me, that Viltrumites never experience any form of bonding on their planet? In any form? For CENTURIES maybe MILLENIA of their lives????
How did this stupid civilization NOT collapse on itself in few decades of it's existence?
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u/nerdguy1138 Nov 24 '23
I mean when you throw your entire civilization into doing one thing and one thing only....
It's still stupid. But I've seen it done well before.
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u/ChequyLionYT Debbie Grayson Nov 25 '23
I mean, Viltrum is collapsing. There's only a handful left, out of a species of millions of nigh-immortal super beings capable of cracking planets. Their incompetent, murderous, and fragile system reduced what should be unstoppable into a flickering, dying flame within a single Viltrumite lifespan.
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u/Just-A-Lucky-Guy Robot Nov 24 '23
Viltrumites, both men and women, are suckers for the human heart. Come to Earth, you’ll get cuddled and pampered into submission.
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u/Dveralazo Nov 23 '23
Human females must be otherworldly for these thousand years-old warriors to fall completely for them
Meanwhile human males are found lacking as the viltrumite woman refuses to engage with any of us.
Do you think things would have ended differently if a brave human gal would have volunteered for non-Freddy-Mercury?
Ah but in a more serious tone, its curious how one of them struggles with finding the right word. He says 'cares' but I think what he needed is the world 'love'.
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u/TheKiltedStranger Nov 23 '23
She changes her mind.
Just needed the right guy.
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u/WhiteWolfOW Nov 23 '23
Wouldn’t be about that if she gets pregnant, she will be pregnant with a belly and vulnerable for a long bit? Pregnancy is not easy for women. At least is like for us humans, easy for men, extremely hard and painful for women
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u/Eastern_Kick7544 Nov 23 '23
I could picture a viltumite woman going into labor like it’s just constipation.
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u/carissadraws Nov 24 '23
I imagine a viltrumite woman and elastigirl would give birth with ease lol
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u/Dveralazo Nov 23 '23
Freddie called us cattle and she agreed so much empathy for us she didn't have(at least,at the time).
Meanwhile,the other were risking getting dismembered for their words.
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u/WhiteWolfOW Nov 23 '23
Well she also says she never wanted an offspring, so either way she wouldn’t want a kid. With a human or any other species. But I guess that yeah, she also finds human men repulsive and she’s not wrong. It’s not clear from this if she’s just a supremacists or it’s a problem with human men specially. Cause she also doesn’t really seem to be found of human women either
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u/Dveralazo Nov 23 '23
Yeah,I think we need a broader sample. All viltrumite women think like her or is just her own point of view?
At least years of indoctrination were melted in the case of the other two,but is she a harder bone to erode?(sorry, don't know the equivalent idiom)
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u/coulduseafriend99 Nov 23 '23
I know you keep calling him Freddie but I always thought he looked like UFC fighter Robert Whitaker
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u/HelloChimp Nov 23 '23
I think she just values strength to a degree no human man could accomplish
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u/whatnameisnttaken098 Nov 23 '23
non-Freddy-Mercury?
Evil Freddy Mercury, otherwise known as Mr.Fahrenheit according to the Guild of Calamitous Intent files.
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u/Hugh_Wotmeight Nov 24 '23
This part doesn't make sense to me, unless I'm missing something from the comics:
Shouldn't Anissa be a chance to create more pure blood Viltrumites? Why should she partner with humans?
If anything every female Viltrumite would be impregnated first before moving on to humans on Earth, and she would be discouraged from mingling with humans, exclusively reserved for them to secure as many pure bloods as possible.
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u/Background_Bird_3637 Nov 24 '23
She didn't want to have kids, it didn't matter if it was humans or viltrumites.
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u/Eastern_Kick7544 Nov 23 '23 edited Nov 23 '23
The only viltrumite woman we have any information of is kind of an asshole. We have Anissa and knife hair
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u/drakeekard Nov 23 '23
"Sir, Earth booty changes you! You gotta try some!"
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u/Negativety101 Nov 24 '23
Alternate universe where Thragg does, years down the line.
"Man dear, I'm so glad I met you. I might have done something crazy like sire an army with Thraxxians and kill Emperor Nolan, and then get killed by Mark or something!"
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u/drakeekard Nov 24 '23
"Imagine I end up fighting Mark in the heart of the sun! That would be crazy!!"
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u/bofoshow51 Nov 24 '23
This shit unironically makes the core of Invincible surprisingly wholesome. Imagine, humanity is so fundamentally and holistically good that continued exposure turns an entire race of super-powered immortal gods into good caring people.
Again, Viltrumites have been a tyrannical and violent scourge on the universe for thousands of years, and just a couple months on earth makes every one of them 180. Utterly incredible.
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u/jks93 Nov 23 '23
I just started reading the comics after watching the series so please don't get mad if I ask why does the artist for Invincible all ways have the bottom teeth shown is seems weird to me.
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u/zmd182 Burger Mart Trash Bag Nov 23 '23
I don’t know the answer but i’m commenting cause i also want to know.
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u/YoydusChrist Nov 23 '23
Believe it or not, Viltrumites are people too. Not just terminators. We saw Nolan change, is this really so different?
It’s excellent writing to show the bad guy like this.
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u/Complex_Mechanic_455 Nov 23 '23
General Thraggs face as Kregg admits loving his baby mamas is peak comedy
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u/ComplexNo8986 Nov 24 '23
Take the Viltrumites away from their conquering roots and they become really good spouses, that’s kinda wild. Also Krieg had 12 wives, this man is a certified Rizzler.
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u/G-R-G Art Rosenbaum Nov 24 '23
It explains why Omni man switch strangely fast for having thousands of years of brutality he became empathetic within 20 years on earth
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u/GoatPerversion Nov 23 '23
I didn't understand why Thragg wasn't on earth procreating with human women. The whole thing was his idea, why wasn't he contributing?
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u/SouthWorry Nov 24 '23
I feel the show will expand on this part and I'm here for it
steve harvey not wanting to cheat is actually cute, people will like the turnarounds
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u/PhantomRoyce Nov 24 '23
Me in the group chat when the boys are too busy with their gfs to hop on Fortnite
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u/Monkey_King291 Duct Tape Man Nov 24 '23
The Viltrumites gaining humanity and compassion is really wholesome, shows they're not just drones following orders
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u/SteelDumplin23 Nov 24 '23
It definitely shows that the viltrimites aren't actually ruthless terminators after all
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u/armyofbeees Nov 23 '23
I loved this part genuinely seeing the viltrumites change like this was so wholesome