r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Nov 17 '23

Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S02E03 - This Missive, This Machination! EPISODE DISCUSSION

Episode 3 - This Missive, This Machination!

Mark starts his college career, Debbie struggles with personal trauma, and Allen the Alien returns home to find a new threat facing the Coalition of Planets.

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u/8dev8 Cecil Stedman Nov 17 '23

On the one hand I get Cecil’s issue

On the otherhand.

Mark ignoring orders to save lives really should reassure you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '23

Honestly, Cecil really bothered me in this episode. I know he's been manipulating Mark all season (and even before), but telling Mark that he's like his father for choosing to go save billions of lives is especially scummy.

Cecil is really smart, but constantly gaslighting a teenager is not a good idea to turn them into a well-adjusted adult. I think at some point Mark is going to realize that Cecil only cares about control.

That's why Cecil's such a great character. He's somewhere between good and evil.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '23

To be fair, I'd want Mark on a short leash too if I was Cecil. From his perspective, Mark is Earth's best chance against Omni-Man. And if he goes rogue, dies in space, or just leaves to do something coincidentally at the time Omni-Man returns, the Earth is pretty much screwed.

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u/2SP00KY4ME Nov 17 '23

If it takes six days to get there, they could've spared an hour to go talk to Cecil. He could've at least said something like "alright fine, let's listen to what he has to say, bring him over and if he checks out, you can go", even if Mark would refuse.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '23

Yeah. Cecil probably could've gotten Mark to listen if he tried to compromise. They're both pretty stubborn at times.

That said, just because it takes 6 days, doesn't mean they can spare any more time. Billions of lives were (allegedly) at stake with who knows how many dying per hour (allegedly). Mark was (allegedly) their only hope, which is why they took the journey, but that doesn't mean they could spare any additional time amidst such (allegedly) tragic and dire circumstances.