r/Invincible • u/mwthecool Omni-Mod • Nov 10 '23

Invincible [COMIC SPOILER Discussion] - S02E02 - In About Six Hours I Lose My Virginity To A Fish COMIC SPOILERS

Episode 2 - In About Six Hours I Lose My Virginity To A Fish

It’s summer break for Mark and his friends, but supervillains don't take a vacation. Mark is forced to face the consequences of Omni-Man's double life.

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u/japanesebreakfast Nov 10 '23

i love love LOVE that they’re giving more depth to the women in this story. eve and amber were both pretty shallow in the comics. until the fight with the viltrumites and eve’s first death she didn’t have a ton of personality, imo. i’m glad robert kirkman is making a concerted effort to give all the characters more development, but especially the women.

i can say the same about the pacing and changing around certain storylines! i see some people don’t like the added emphasis to the lizard league, but honestly, their role in the comics felt pretty goddamn random and they need to be framed as a bigger and more consistent threat.

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u/Poniibeatnik Atom Eve Nov 10 '23

I agree with all of this except for Eve being Shallow in the comics.

Eve imo was never shallow.

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u/japanesebreakfast Nov 10 '23

we can agree to disagree. i don’t think she was a completely shallow character all throughout, but in the early stages she definitely didn’t have as much personality as she does in the show. they’re also adding more scenes and backstory about her and her parents. i’m glad they showed more of her doing groundwork in chicago too rather than the White Savior Eve arc

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u/Poniibeatnik Atom Eve Nov 10 '23

"white savior"

You mean when she helped starving people in Africa? I don't get people who complained about that. Would it have been better if she just let them starve because "oh no it looks so bad that I a white person are helping this starving black people"

I say this as someone who's half black. People who complained about that are silly.

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u/japanesebreakfast Nov 10 '23

ok, as someone who’s fully black i didn’t like the storyline, it fits into the exact definition of a white savior to me. we don’t have to agree on that either

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u/Poniibeatnik Atom Eve Nov 10 '23 edited Nov 10 '23

But I don't get it. Its somehow "better" that Eve ISN'T helping starving people in Africa?

All because of her race?

Like "I would TOTALLY help those impoverished people in insert country here but I don't share their skin color so I don't think that would reflect too well on me/it might bother some people."

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u/Emergency_Fig_6390 Nov 10 '23

I think they’re talking about the white savior trope in fiction. No one is saying people irl shouldn’t help starving kids because of the color of their skin. They just mean its a tired trope in fiction.

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u/Poniibeatnik Atom Eve Nov 10 '23

I know but it just feels weird.

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u/MysteryMan9274 "Dude, I saw it on Reddit" Nov 10 '23

I think the way the comic portrayed it plays up the white savior stereotype. The black people were living in villages instead of cities, and they and Eve never spoke to each other. Eve didn't even ask what they needed, she just made some plants and immediately left. It definitely could have been better executed.

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u/Poniibeatnik Atom Eve Nov 10 '23

It definitely could have been better executed.

Definitely agree with this.

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u/Emergency_Fig_6390 Nov 10 '23

Maybe it just feels like, oh of course another white person comes to save the poor starving african children. Its just been done so much it feels weird to keep doing it. I like how they changed it up where eve is trying to still fix things in that same vein but going about it in a different way, while also showing that maybe she’s not always right and a quick fix with her powers isn’t always going to work.

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u/japanesebreakfast Nov 10 '23

i think we are both aware that that’s not what i’m saying here and i don’t feel like arguing with an internet stranger right now. i hope you enjoy your evening 💞

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u/Poniibeatnik Atom Eve Nov 10 '23

"i think we are both aware that that’s not what i’m saying here "

Not really? I'm genuinely trying to understand your perspective, because I don't get it.

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u/Splitstepthenhit Nov 10 '23

Feels like they were being a sealion or just willfully obtuse.

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u/sebramirez4 Nov 14 '23

I actually really liked that part, I always thought it was dumb Batman thought the best way to help people was dressing up as a bat and beating up criminals and as soon as we really knew Eve's powers I think people's first instinct is "holy crap she can just end world hunger" so seeing her actually try to do that and help people in other ways made her more endearing to me honestly.

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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Battle Beast Nov 10 '23

I'd agree. It's been a while since I did a full reread of the comic, but I remember that right away, Eve's shown to be pretty competent and capable. She teaches Mark some stuff about superheroing and kind of shows him the ropes with the teen team, the Rex stuff is bit cliché but it's good writing for a teenager superhero and the Mark love triangle is a bit too but I'm a sucker for those old superhero dynamics.

I would agree that she does become a bit more of a character after the conquest stuff, and the bit where she confronts Angstrom the second time might be my favourite Invincible moment. Just the way Eve utterly demolishes his vendetta without violence or force but just with words is something you'd never expect in superhero (cough cough, big two) comics.

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u/TDR1411 Rex Splode Nov 10 '23

Key thing is that Eve is a teenager currently

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u/Vegetable_Tear3941 Mark and Eve Nov 10 '23

i never saw eve as shallow in the comics, she was always cool but yeah i agree i really love her in the show. her scenes with her dad were kinda heartbreaking. can‘t really say the same for amber i just really don’t care for her at all. that’s probably because i know that in the comics she just fades away after awhile. for me the chemistry just isn’t there between them so i am not too invested in this relationship.

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u/SatinySquid_695 Nov 10 '23

Yeah, I agree. I always felt like Eve was well developed. How many other super hero stories are there where they forego fighting crime to just be a treehugger helping however they can?

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u/japanesebreakfast Nov 10 '23

i hated mark and amber being together in the comics. it NEVER made sense to me. beyond amber being pretty she was pretty vapid and didn’t contribute much to the story. at least in the show she’s interesting and has some degree of impact, even if she kind of sucks

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '23

I disagree. Amber in the comics was more developed. She feels very shallow in the show.