r/GenZ 6d ago

Do you think Andrew Yang would have done better in the fumbled first presidential debate this year, if they had swapped Andrew Yang in to replace Biden? Political

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u/Dra_goony 6d ago

Can we get anyone else than these 2 fossils

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u/Fentanyl4babies 6d ago

Guess I'm voting for RFK then

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u/CanIBorrowYourShovel 6d ago

I mean the reality is that with our system, and throwaway vote or non vote is functionally a vote for the encumbant. It isnt taking a stand. That kind of thing is not done in federal elections. You want to change that, get active at a local level.

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u/Fentanyl4babies 5d ago

He's polling at 15%. He only needs about 34% to win. Also, he beats either candidate in a head to head race. So if either drops out or is unable to continue then he could win.

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u/CanIBorrowYourShovel 5d ago

I hear you, but you absolutely know that will never happen and hasnt even come close since teddy roosevelt's bull moose party - and he had everything going for him.

Either that or this is your first election cycle and you just haven't yet realized the reality of just how cynical and terminally entrenched our system is.

You will never change it at the level of a federal election. A third-party choice has to come from several cycles of grassroots small government elections to build nationwide recognition.

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u/Fentanyl4babies 5d ago

Definitely not my first election. But we had both these idiots in office already once. So, I honestly don't care which one wins. To me it's the perfect time to support someone who is trying to shake things up. Also, RFK could approach Biden and say, "I'm not dropping out. So, you will lose. If you stay in, Trump beats both of us. If you drop out, then I can beat Trump. It's your choice, either I'm president or Trump." The current polls support this argument.

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u/CanIBorrowYourShovel 5d ago

Man.... i wish i had your youthful enthusiasm on it. And while i share your sentiment, it is important to be clear, one of the two is very much a worse option. Women have lost bodily autonomy, lgbt people can't get care, corporate rollbacks have caused long term harm to the environment, the american taxpayer, and the world in general. The other has just been a doddering old man whose policies have been milktoast at worst, beneficial at best.

But i digress. We do agree that the two both suck.