“Medicare for All” would save the U.S $5.1 Trillion over 10 years

[u/The-Lucky-Investor]

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/30/easy-pay-something-costs-less-new-study-shows-medicare-all-would-save-us-51-trillion

[u/Pickle_ninja]

In America:

Person with a fever of 99.0F (37.2C): Get back to work.

Person with a fever of 100.0F (37.7C): Stay home take some cough syrup.

Person with a fever of 101.0F (38.3C): Stay home take some cough syrup.

Person with a fever of 102.0F (38.9C): Stay home take some cough syrup.

Person with a fever of 103.0F (39.44C): I'm going to try cooling down with a bath.

Person with a fever of 104.0F (40C): I think I should go to the hospital.

Person coming across a Person convulsing on the ground with a fever of 105.0F (40.55C): "OMG! CALL A $10,000 AMBULANCE!"

In Countries with Universal Health Care:

Person with a fever of 99.0F (37.2C): I'm going to see a doctor.

[u/Secret_Squire1 → u/Pickle_ninja]

American having lived in Europe and the UK.

No it’s more like having to wait several weeks to be seen by a GP to be told to go home and take Tylenol while resting. I had my foot run over by a car and was told the same thing.

[u/Cadet_Stimpy → u/Secret_Squire1]

It takes months to get appointments in the US now too. It’s not a socialized healthcare issue, it’s a medical professional shortage issue.

[u/r2k398 → u/Cadet_Stimpy]

I can get a same day appointment most of the time. At worst, the next business day. If it was a little serious, I would go to an urgent care. If it was really serious, I would go to an ER. Both of those are same day.

[u/Cadet_Stimpy → u/r2k398]

I waited two months to see my PCM for the first time. Waited from March to May. Even now there’s at least a few weeks wait. I guess since everyone has an anecdotal response about how they can see their PCM whenever they want I must just be making it all up in my head.

[u/Active2017 → u/Cadet_Stimpy]

Honest question, why is two months so ridiculous if you are not experiencing any problems and just going for an intake appointment? You realize other people are actually sick and are going to be prioritized right?

[u/Cadet_Stimpy → u/Active2017]

If I’m going to be waiting anyway, then I shouldn’t be paying a premium. Everyone says socialized healthcare causes long wait times, but it’s not much better when we’re paying monthly for health insurance and copays per visit, plus meds. One unlucky illness or accident could easily leave you with hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical debt for a subpar system.

We already pay more for healthcare. Why am I paying more for weeks or months long waits just like many other countries with socialized healthcare?