Fr if you’re actually “pro-life” then you wouldn’t want to be married to someone you consider a murderer. Shows how shallow the beliefs are… rules for thee but not for me!
I follow a tiktok account for a PP doctor, and she said one of the clinic protesters came in first thing in the morning for an abortion, and when it was done she picked up her sign and went right back outside to tell women entering the clinic that they were murderers and going to hell. All the anti-abortion politicians also seem to be completely fine with abortions when they're paying their affair partners to get them... The hypocrisy is insane.
This is the type of shit that proves abortion should be legal. ESH because they’re all hypocrites. Guy who stealthed her is also a major asshole. Poor kid 🙈
Thank you so much for posting this article! It was nice just knowing that there is such an eloquently worded piece of text available to potentially help educate people who don’t think their stance on abortion all the way through…
Umm that isn't what pro life is. It's being against abortion. They could have the kid and put them up for adoption and still be pro life. This isn't to say they are good people by any means. But pro life absolutely does not mean you raise the kid no matter what.
The term pro life means anti abortion though, so they are pro life if they are anti abortion. We can't just go around changing the definition of words and phrases because they don't fit our views, otherwise language is useless. They don't want to kill a baby in the womb so they are pro life. They aren't arguing they are going to have the baby and then slaughter it.
Like I can be pro space exploration. Doesn't mean I have to go into space to support it.
He's not. He should recognize abortion is a very acceptable solution for this situation and support his ex through the process. Then they can part ways.
Is seeing abortion as murder the only way to be against abortion? Seems like you're projecting something onto OP. Did he even use the phrase "pro-life"?
Ehhhh not necessarily. I agree that OP is an AH. But for me, I am pro life for MYSELF. I would never use an abortion as a form of birth control for myself. Ethically, I have always been of the mindset that if I am old enough to have sex, I am old enough to use proper birth control, and practice safe sex, and if I became pregnant of my own accord (not related to rape, etc.) that I would take responsibility and raise that child. I’ve always wanted children, and at this point, I would keep it anyways because I’m almost 30, and want to start a family in the next few years.
With that being said, I only hold that decision for myself. Because… my body, it’s my choice. I don’t hold anyone else to that, because it is their body, and their choice. I would never vote to take that choice away from someone else, because I would never want someone else to take my choice away from me. And even if I consider it unethical, I know that’s a me thing. I don’t sit around and think others to be murderers.
I think too often people are lumped in under an umbrella of extremes. This is a bit off topic, but just my two cents. And I’m not trying to debate, just adding that in! :)
They aren't pro life. They just personally don't want to participate in, or ideologically don't condone it for, contraception and think abortion should be rare. Now faced with it in their backyard, he's open to it, despite not approving of it. His position is, either abort or divorce.
Also consider, this is a position he did his part to avoid, thinking his wife wouldn't fall pregnant, as he was snipped. Obviously now she is, from someone else, but this is on her. He took reasonable precautions to walk the walk on this, but, this was an unexpected avenue to get here, and not directly his fault. And he still doesn't like the option.
It is more nuanced than you are realizing.
It is fair to both not like the idea of abortion, but still accept the necessity of it. This isn't the same as burning down abortion clinics, then using one when that same person finds out they have an unwanted pregnancy.
Hell, for myself, I don't like the idea of abortions, especially for contraception when precautions were not taken, but I vehemently support the right to them.
NO ONE uses Abortions for "contraception" uses. You do realize Abortions cost about $600-$900 dollars in my State? Most women who get them are either for Medical Reasons aka the baby is DEAD inside her. If she has a miscarriage they have to do a DNC which is an abortion. The baby has severe birth defects or a disease where they won't survive.
Raped. Etc. I have never known anyone who got pregnant and just said hey I'm going to March on over and get it done like it's a good old time. They also make you fill out TONS of paperwork, make you incredibly nervous and God forbid you get a religious person.
You are absolutely incorrect on that. Some people do. Is it stupid? Yes. Do people often do stupid things? Also yes.
You can calm down. While I may not like all the reasons some get abortions, I advocate for their absolute right to choose, even if and when I personally find it distasteful. And yes, many abortions are indeed for medical/viability reasons, I am definitely not disputing that.
Cool, but there are many who don't act as the few that you have known. I have personally known people to get abortions because of the sex of the fetuses. I literally know someone that aborted twins because they were male and the would-be mother wanted daughters. I am certainly not saying everyone is as flippant, but some actually are. And it is my position that these should not limit the rights of others who, in my view, are more responsible and respectful about it. Hell, I even still maintain that this particular woman should have had every right to do it. Because it is her body.
Paperwork? Depends on the state. Some are much easier than others. And, again, I support removing barriers to access, including state mandated guilt trips to those pursuing abortion procedures.
It's sad that there are people that exist that take advantages of things like this. It's such a big part of why one side struggles to support things that can actually be a huge help to society. Same thing with something like welfare - some people think it shouldn't exist because of a few taking advantage
But really even tho it sucks people take advantage it's so few compared to how many good people it ends up being the best decision for.
Like I dunno the mindset of "a few will take advantage so I'd rather no one have it" is just baffling to me. I'd rather people that actually need whatever be able to get it. That's how we build a healthy society, not the idea that "people have to deal with the consequences" and "pull themselves up by the bootstraps."
Society has only thrived because people helped each other through community since we spawned in. Too many people got an individualistic mindset
Incidentally, the sex can be known before 20 weeks. But, yes, I have known multiple people that have had abortions over the sex of the fetuses, and other, non medical reasons, too. That doesn't mean that abortion rights should cease to exist, nor that those women shouldn't have been allowed to do it.
In the case of the woman that would have had twins, she married into money and was wealthy. She had great access to healthcare.
How does that change my comment? I never said they couldn’t have abortions, I just said their morals are shallow bc they’re so easily hypocrites. Also ironic bc the anti-abortion crowd is so loud and disruptive yet cave so fast.
Well people don’t like to think about the ramifications of your voting positions, but being “anti abortion” is not just saying other people can’t have an abortion it is physically trying to stop other people from having abortion by state forces.
And what are you doing right here? It’s Friday, I took an edible and was browsing Reddit, it wasn’t that deep or something I put thought into. You’re overreacting like a child; consider getting those anger issues checked out!
Please don’t generalize. Most people who are Christian just believe in god and the 10 commandments (90%) of them would actually qualify as Jewish!! LOL!!
And it's gotta be as rare as possible, like after your wife cheats on you because you cheated. Those types of moments, not after someone is raped and impregnated by it of course.
It's kind of like trump getting on stage and lecturing us about abortions. Like I somewhat understand/support the prolife stance to an extent. I just find it crazy trump is the face of the movement knowing full well he would drive over the doctor to some random chick he knocked up if he found out about it.
It's different when I need one though, unlike those damn minorities and 11-year old sluts, I just made a mistake! (When I cheated on my husband as revenge for cheating on me)
Doesn't believe in abortion but willing to look the other way to make his own life easier. Almost like every pro-life person until they're in that same situation.
Fucking hypocrits are everywhere. Think about the would be kid, imagine if they ever found out about that. Not every conception needs to be carried to term. Stop letting the religious right dictate what is morally sound. So many of these people want kids to be born but then suffer their whole lives.
Yeah, that was my reaction as well. Totally fine with sleeping around on each other, but not fine with preventing an unwanted child from coming into the world… glad we found their “line” though, Lord knows it had to be somewhere.
They don't believe in cheating they just did it for whatever reason.
Abortion shouldn't be legal unless it's medically necessary and that does include rape if it's gonna affect her mental health which it will depends if the woman is strong enough to deal with it it's her Choice (my opinion)
In my country it's considered unethical to abort a pregnant for zero reason aside from it being a "mistake" , I jus wanted to give my opinion
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u/No_Instruction4557 4d ago
Y’all believe in cheating but not abortions 😂😂☠️☠️☠️