So my wife got hit by the boom while sailing. As our boat is not that big, I had to move a cooler and a 7yr old out of the way to get to her. I assume all your boats are cooler free or you store them below deck.
If Im panicking, I might think theres first aid stuff in a cooler. I once watched someone headbutt the glass window to an unlocked pull open door of a fire extinguisher holding box. Yes, he got glass in his face. People get stupid in emergencies. Do we really want to make the problem worse by making your own little SAW trap?
I'm literally NONE of those scenarios is moving the cooler anywhere near necessary.
Fire? I'm what case would rescuer need to lift the cooler. Is the order Beer, women and children first?
Explosions? An explosion is a very immediate problem. Assuming it was an explosion that didn't eviscerate the area than why would you need the cooler? To destress with a beer?
Sinking? If I'm sinking why would I grab a cooler instead of say a life raft or any other buoyant object around
Let's say there is an emergency situation and you have to rescue a person on a boat. However, there are things on the boat. And some of these things are on the way to rescue said person.
Would you ignore all the things on the way and drag the person across whatever clutter you found, or would you clear the way first? If you're a first responder, would you clear the area for first aid or yolo around whatever is on the way?
In every example I gave, objects might be obstructing the way to help people, especially if they are unconscious. Be it a cooler, a chair, a table, a treasure chest, whatever.
An explosion could even blast the cooler off the boat into land or water. If someone would ever grab the cooler to take it off the streets or clear the water, they could potentially hurt themselves as well.
There are way more scenarios where some random and innocent person could hurt themselves - especially if they're trying to help you - than there are scenarios where you would prevent something from happening. Unless that something is trying to hurt someone.
That's completely alright. For the few that are legitimately on the fence on the subject or don't actually understand why that'd be a problem, hopefully my explanation was enough.
Nah. The reality is that people crave blood and want to see people suffer without having to consider basic empathy. You see it in any discussion of self-defense. People spend time and resources picking out the right tool that will be the most fun to dismember another human and act like you're insane for saying that running away is the safer move. They phrase their future self-defense claims as "I got to" instead of "I had to". Hell, look at Jordan Neely. People cheered a public execution because the guy "made people uncomfortable". It doesn't take much to make people support truly horrific acts against other humans, and the idea of "criminals" is just another way to other those and justify any amount of violence. Like cutting someone's fingers off because maybe they were trying to steal beer.
It doesn't take much to make people support truly horrific acts against other humans, and the idea of "criminals" is just another way to other those and justify any amount of violence.
So true. The same people who spend all day whining about high crime would hate to live in a crime free society, because then they couldn't satisfy their grotesque bloodlust.
They'd just want to see "crime" redefined. It's Nazi shit. Otherize groups, commit horrific acts, justify it based on theories about what they're totally planning to do, and then pick the next group. No hyperbole, it's the rhetoric and ideas that allow people to embrace violent fascism.
I'm playing devils advocate here, but technically if you open the lid of a cooler and flip it over its not a terrible flotation device depending on how large it is. Its all dependent on if the air trapped inside can offset your fatness.
If an accident of pretty much any type happens, things don't just disintegrate. Someone is gonna have to move them around at some point. If you are incapacitated, who's gonna disarm your boobytraps? Who's warning the helpers?
What if something happens while you're away? Are firefighters supposed to not touch anything and let it all burn down?
The whole point is to kill or maim somebody.
It's hidden so it doesn't prevent anything. Do you think it'll prevent the next person? Are you going to post pictures of what happened to the first guy?
oh my god why can't a single idiot on Reddit ever just say "oh, I didn't think of it like that but I see what you mean now. thanks for respectfully and cogently answering the question I definitely asked in good faith. I definitely DIDN'T snottily ask because I'm utterly convinced of my intellectual superiority and I'm definitely not butthurt to be proven wrong because I appreciate learning new things as they make me a wiser and more well rounded person."
there are tons of reasons people might accidentally engage the booby trap - people have already given you the most obvious examples like emergency first responders & kids. that's what you asked for. you thought there was " nO PoSsiBle LeGiTimaTe rEaSon" but hey look! you're wrong. get over it.
P.S. - even if someone is trying to steal your precious cooler, you can't maim them. that's not the legal punishment for thieves, like jfc who raised you? are you ok?? you can only attack someone in self defense and booby trapping is never that.
you're missing the point - nobody is talking about TAKING the cooler. you basically asked what reason would someone have to be there if they weren't trying to steal. well, emergency first responders would have legitimate reason! if you're trapped in the burning boat, the emergency first responders may need to move it to get to you to save you. that's only one example of many. nobody has the right to maim or injure unsuspecting people who have not done ANYTHING. "well, they were GONNA do something!!" is not an excuse. and it's a little psychotic.
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u/Leows 5d ago
First, name any number of accidents you can think of. Fires? Explosions? Sinking?
Now, imagine rescuers, firefighters, family members, friends, or whoever has to move these things around trying to help have their hands lacerated.