r/southpark • u/PewdiepieSucks • Oct 04 '18
Catholic League President Calls 'South Park' Creators 'Cowards' (after last night's episode) gross
https://www.thewrap.com/catholic-league-president-calls-south-park-creators-cowards-over-a-boy-and-a-priest-episode/1.2k
u/badassewok Oct 04 '18
It's nice seeing south park on the news again
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u/silent_kevin_gnapoor Oct 04 '18
While South Park is on the news, A priest is on a little boy In every church In every country On every planet
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u/MrGrrrFace Oct 04 '18
Religion is molesting other planets now?
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u/D00zer Oct 04 '18
I'm sure the Gelgameks are definitely molesting children.
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u/pcliv Oct 04 '18
Well, the Gelgamek vagina IS 3 feet wide with razor sharp teeth. Do you really expect them to have sex with THAT?
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u/Xoqute94 Oct 04 '18
Hell, I’m Catholic and really enjoyed last night’s episode and Red Hot Catholic Love.
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u/ClockworkDreamz Oct 04 '18
I'm a damn dirty liberal, and some of my favorite episodes are the ones where they're making fun of us... it's gotten to the point where PC Principal has become one of my favorite characters. People really need to get sense humor and stop taking themselves so seriously, and not just laugh when they're making fun of people they don't like.
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Oct 04 '18
Everyone I've asked here in Canada loves when they poke fun at us. Those follow the only road and the royal wedding episodes were some of my favourites.
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u/Dont_call_me_Shirly Oct 04 '18
I love the royal wedding
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u/RichterNYR35 Oct 04 '18
As is tradition
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Oct 04 '18 edited Oct 05 '18
Yes the prince is now sticking the princess's arm up his ass, there it goes, he's really making a good go of it.
Edit: To what they actually said.
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u/ThelostWeasley13 Oct 05 '18
And now the prince is attempting to pull off her arms, as is tradition.
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u/bhfroh Oct 04 '18
You're a dick, Scott. You've always been a dick. Then you got radiation poisoning in Ottawa and became a giant dick.
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u/-Kite-Man- Oct 04 '18
We love when they make fun of us because we're like that retarded kid cousin who's excitement tops out when we hear our own name get mentioned when they do the Name Song on Sesame Street.
You don't have to do much to make us happy. Just say "Canada" and we all go "HEY THAT'S US THEY SAID OUR NAME YAY!!!"
- This is Matt and Trey's own explanation for this phenomenon, btw. As a Canuck, I gotta agree.
And we absolutely do not like it when anyone makes fun of the things we give enormous shits about like our politics or healthcare or multiculturalism. Once you get past naming us, few people are less self-involved and ironically angrily committed to their international reputation of being "good dudes". But SP wisely stays away from mentioning that.
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u/MrGneissGuy Oct 04 '18
Went to Canada and tried to watch TV. Ended up watching the comedy channel where it was basically America’s funniest home videos but with interviews from American Comedians. Now I die laughing at “The Canada Channel, the only channel in Canada.”
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u/Hip_Hop_Orangutan Oct 04 '18
Most of my favorite episodes and why I loved the movie so much is them making fun of Canada. Also why I actually enjoyed Super Troopers 2 because of all the Canada jokes.
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u/M12Domino Oct 04 '18
One of my favourite episodes is the one about Canadian Immigrants
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u/CanadaEh97 Oct 04 '18
I loved those episodes especially when I was living in the USA. My friends and I were cracking one liners from those episodes for weeks.
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u/Totally_a_Banana Oct 05 '18
Do you know what a dire wolf is?
It's like a wolf...but dire.
(From the Canada part of the Stick of Truth game)
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Oct 04 '18
Pc principal is my favorite more recently introduced character. It got sealed in for me when he beat Cartman's ass, when he tried to frame him for raping butters.
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u/Boner_Patrol_007 Oct 04 '18
We’re aging liberal hippy douches
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u/ClockworkDreamz Oct 04 '18
It's true, I was jamming out to some queen today as I ate a tofu burrito with all the avocado.
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u/organicpenguin Oct 04 '18
The fact that Isaac Hayes stuck around for a bit after the scientology episode has to say something about Matt and Trey's character.
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Oct 05 '18
“Stuck around” isn’t entirely accurate. He didn’t do any voice acting since the 3rd episode of that season, and the Scientology episode was the 12th, so its not like he was really with them during that time frame. Also, Haye’s son has claimed that the decision to leave wasn’t made by his dad, but by people representing him.
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u/_Face Oct 04 '18
Get out the Cumby!
I lold so much at that simple stupid noise.
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u/dcanderson4247 Oct 04 '18
Ikr? I had to rewatch a few times before finishing the episode
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u/viralunicorn Oct 05 '18
I’m a Christian, raises in the Catholic Church, and I love when South Park makes fun of Christianity, it’s hilarious. My mother sees it differently, she has a great disdain for South Park “mocking God.” She’s missing out on the fun.
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u/The_Mighty_Rex Oct 05 '18
My whole family is Christian (not Catholics) and even my grandma thinks SP is funny as all heck. Some people just don't have a sense of humor.
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u/j0kerclash Oct 04 '18
"The October 3rd episode of “South Park,” titled “A Boy and a Priest,” portrayed molesting priests as pedophiles. This is factually inaccurate: almost all the molesters–8 in 10–have been homosexuals. (Wtf?)
Therefore, the cartoon-victim characters should have been depicted as adolescents, not kids.
(Okay, thanks for giving us that distinction)
In Hollywood, the creators of “South Park,” Trey Parker and Matt Stone, are seen as courageous. They are really cowards. It takes courage to tell the truth."
Their response is in absolute shambles, I honestly can't fathom why they'd try to respond in the first place.
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u/Xoqute94 Oct 04 '18 edited Oct 04 '18
Honestly, I’m not surprised. When the Pope said that the church must apologize to the gays, the poor, and exploited. Bill Donahue was asked on CNN if he would follow this advice and he gave this answer:
“As a matter of fact, I want an apology from gays.”
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u/RogueZ1 Oct 04 '18
I didn't know Catholic League President = Bill Donahue... this is now making way more sense lol
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u/prince_of_cannock Oct 04 '18
I'm pretty sure the Catholic League IS Bill Donahue.
No reputable group would ever have that jackass as its PR spokesman. Never, never, never.
(Thank you for having a cute Cartman as your flair BTW.)
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Oct 05 '18
Didn’t they make fun of Bill Donahue in the Easter Special a while back?
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u/Rybred225 Oct 04 '18
Did he really fuckin say that? Did he say what he wanted the apology for? What a loon.
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u/HighSorcerer Oct 04 '18
He wants an apology for them offending him by existing. Classic abuser behavior, blame the victim.
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u/warningtrackpower12 Oct 05 '18
“As a matter of fact, I want an apology from gays.”
Hahahaha I can totally see that as a joke in a south park episode.
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u/Fhwqhgads Red poofball supremacy Oct 04 '18 edited Oct 04 '18
Nice to know he's so knowledgeable about such things. Nice to know that sex with adolescents is OK.
He might as well admit it, he's not fooling anyone. None of them are.
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u/friedpikmin Oct 04 '18
It's just baffling that they are blaming homosexuals. I haven't seen the episode, but I have a feeling they are missing the entire point.
Could the molesters have been gay? Sure. But kids were still molested in their organization. The sexual orientation is completely irrelevant. It's so rampant and does not happen nearly at the same level as other religious organizations, so clearly something is wrong with their way of doing things.
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Oct 05 '18
Its not the church responding. Its the crazy catholic league head Bill Donahue.
Not excusing the church for everything, but its the standard rich asshole pretending to speak for everyone when he just speaks for himself.
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u/Insanepaco247 Oct 05 '18
The problem is that to them, it's not irrelevant. The organization isn't corrupt; it's those horrible horrible homosexuals who were sent by Satan to infiltrate them and make them seem evil to the outside world.
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u/Murgie Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18
Go check out /r/Catholicism, they blame shit on what they refer to as the "Lavender Mafia" on a regular basis. Apparently gays have been running the Church this whole time!
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u/john_the_fisherman Oct 05 '18 edited Oct 05 '18
Not attempting to align myself with Bill Donahue or the Catholic league, but there is a growing unofficial but legitimate thought among Catholics that the incidences of child molestation within the Church is because of homosexual priests.
I have mentioned this elsewhere, but joining the priesthood was/is a reasonable path for many closeted young homosexuals to avoid social stigma, and an easy explanation as to why they were not married or have any children. I think this was especially relevant in past decades and can explain why the majority of pedophiles within the Church are older. This is not to say that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than other sexual orientations, but that homosexuals who joined the clergy for the wrong reasons (social convenience) and who were obligated into a life of "celibacy," are more likely to break their vows. This can explain why the overwhelming majority of the victims have been male, when assumedly the priests have equal access to both sexes.
I will add that since (Western) society has been a lot more welcoming to the idea of LGBTQ, I have faith that the the number of child assault cases within the Church will only go down once the older generations ages out. Also, if it needs to be said, this is not a defense of how the Catholic Church has handled or even covered up these incidents.
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u/CreamyGoodnss Oct 04 '18
I honestly can't fathom why they'd try to respond in the first place.
Just like a little boy can't fathom why a Catholic priest is raping him
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u/goavsgo1988 Oct 04 '18
I’m glad someone broke this down better than I could have. I figured I was reading the statement wrong because it made zero sense. But holy shit, what a poor response!
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u/furiousxgeorge Oct 04 '18
Keep in mind that despite what the media may lead you to believe this douche doesn't actually speak for Catholics. His organization has no official ties to the Church and he is generally regarded as the douchebag he obviously is outside of extremely conservative Church circles.
The Catholic League is kind of like the Catholic NRA. A lot more conservative, extreme, politically involved than the bulk of the people it supposedly represents. The way they court controversy by wading in
guns blazingin defense of accused priests definitely reminds me of how the NRA reacts to school shootings. They completely lose sight of priority #1, the victims and future potential victims, because they are obsessed with their own self indulgent self interest.21
u/Corne777 Oct 05 '18
"Come on that's unrealistic, we don't rape kids that young, we wait a few more years then rape them.".
A+ defense, South Park should be embarrassed by this oversight.
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u/Sks44 Oct 04 '18
The vast majority of the abuse cases against catholic clergy have been against teenage boys and not preteens. People like Donahoe blame gay men in the clergy for this.
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u/j0kerclash Oct 04 '18
Thats a good summary of what he's saying.
The fact that it's teenage boys rather than pre-teens hardly makes it better though, and since being gay doesn't make you a child molester, Donahoe's point isn't really justifiable.
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u/Sks44 Oct 04 '18
I had a roommate who was a hardcore caflick and he’d make this argument. Basically, he said the priests who were shuffled around were gay dudes who would be like “I banged a teenager. My bad.” And the older gay priests would be like “been there. Don’t do it again. We’ll move you.”. Meanwhile, the media paints it as priests banging second graders because that’s a much more horrific crime. Because they don’t have the balls (according to this line of thinking) to go after the gay dudes in our modern gay friendly culture.
To me, both are awful crimes. As SP has pointed out, just because the general populace is dumb and thinks X, doesn’t excuse shitty awfulness. It’s two cannibals arguing over which one is worse, the guy who cooked the meat or ate it raw. Both you muddafuckas are cannibals.
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u/j0kerclash Oct 04 '18
Yeah pretty much, the only thing I'd disagree on would be the sexuality of those that are moving the child molesters; sexual orientation doesn't inherently mean that their sexual behaviour is more or less deviant than other sexualities, there is plenty of motivation for a straight veteran priest to try and bury the situation as well, I understand that this scenario could happen, but the assumption that it's a homosexuality problem within the church is a scapegoat for them covering it up, and in doing so justifies the vilification of homosexuality even though there are other limiting factors which are clearly creating a culture of child abuse within the religion.
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u/roque72 Oct 04 '18
Have any of these "gay priests" ever been caught fucking each other? It wouldn't be illegal, so you'd think it would be easier for them if it was really the case.
Also, if you watch The Keepers on Netflix, it tells the true story of priests in a girl's catholic school, with the help of police, raped the girls and murdered a nun who found out. They're pedophiles who are abusing their power.
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u/SergioFromTX Oct 04 '18
I don't remember there being any victims in this episode.
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u/j0kerclash Oct 04 '18
The assumed victims by the clean up crew are the children, nothing actually happened but it's implied that it happens often in other churches.
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u/SergioFromTX Oct 05 '18
Of course, I agree. I was just pointing out another way that Bill Donahue's complaints didn't apply to the actual episode.
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u/Insanepaco247 Oct 05 '18
Well you can't expect him to actually watch the thing. Much better to skim for a few key words and phrases that confirm your bias than to get to know the thing you're talking about and have to face that your interpretation might be wrong.
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u/jaktyp Oct 04 '18
“8/10 molesters were gay, so the victims should have been portrayed older.”
They didn’t have an issue with the catholic cleanup crew that were trying to get rid of semen and anal blood stains. Just that Butters wasn’t old enough before the cleaners abducted them.
Solid argument.
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u/KingMcnuggets Oct 04 '18
I read the article and that sentence struck me as weird. Are they saying that children cant be gay so they should be portrayed as gay adolescents in their teens?
I almost liken that to Chris hansen saying "did you know she was 13" and the molester saying "...She said she was 15!" like it's somehow better.
I would think if your organization is known for molesting ANYONE, maybe don't call people on technical points, just shut the hell up. Nobody wants to hear the molester's justification as if you could talk your way out of it.
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u/EclecticDarkness Oct 04 '18
“The South Park creators are cowards because we molested teenagers, not children” is one of the hottest takes I’ve ever read. That is BEYOND satire
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u/warningtrackpower12 Oct 05 '18
Seriously can anybody explain WHY this makes them COWARDS?
Anyway this entire comment section has me in tears laughing.
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u/Stats_with_a_Z Oct 05 '18
Please tell me that wasn't their real argument..
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u/Grokrash Oct 05 '18
It's sorta worse. Their argument was basically "The molesters weren't pedophiles, they were just unholy gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaays."
But I mean, it's from Bill Donohue. A man so famous for disliking south parks depiction of Catholics and Christianity, that he is in the show as the villain in the Hare Club for Men Easter Episode.
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u/Fhwqhgads Red poofball supremacy Oct 04 '18
Hit a little too close to home eh Bill?
You're not fooling anyone. And you're giving Matt and Trey exactly what they want: news coverage. Keep it up!
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u/popesnutsack Oct 04 '18
So they're too cowardly to molest alter boys? Is that where you're heading there, bishop touchypeepee?
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u/I_Stab_Fruit Oct 04 '18
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on last night’s episode of Comedy Central’s “South Park”: The October 3rd episode of “South Park,” titled “A Boy and a Priest,” portrayed molesting priests as pedophiles. This is factually inaccurate: almost all the molesters–8 in 10–have been homosexuals. Therefore, the cartoon-victim characters should have been depicted as adolescents, not kids.
Oh, my mistake. Move right along, sir.
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u/VixToonsDesign Oct 05 '18
I'd don't necessarily want to see continuing storylines this season... However, I would love to see them just have Bill as a character saying this word for word with the text flashing on the screen to say This is Literally What he Said in the same vein as the Scientology episode because this is fuel for South Park and a sound bite I don't know if they can ignore...
What a fucking comment to make, holy shit balls.
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u/Filmmagician Oct 04 '18
Omg just read it. They're upset that the priest wasn't raping the appropriate aged kids. hahaha idiots
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u/Kryptosis Oct 05 '18
Am I confused? No kids got raped in the episode... Right? I don't think he even watched it. Probably was just told about it and reacted.
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u/sheepsleepdeep Oct 04 '18
That statement literally doesn't make sense.
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Oct 04 '18
“A Boy and a Priest” portrayed molesting priests as pedophiles. This is factually inaccurate
In Hollywood, the creators of “South Park,” Trey Parker and Matt Stone, are seen as courageous.
They are really cowards. It takes courage to tell the truth.
So basically:
It takes courage to tell the truth.
It's inaccurate that priests are portrayed as pedophiles.
Since they aren't telling the truth, they are cowards.
LOGIC: 0
Also hilarious nitpick:
“A Boy and a Priest,” portrayed molesting priests as pedophiles. This is factually inaccurate: almost all the molesters–8 in 10–have been homosexuals.
"Matt and Trey implied that priests are pedophiles. This isn't true because most are actually homos."
What. The. Fuck.
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Oct 04 '18
And of course the irony is that Trey and Matt didn't actually feature ANY "cartoon-victim characters"
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u/RikaMX Oct 04 '18
I don't think that dude watched the episode, probably just read about it, lazy ass.
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u/sheepsleepdeep Oct 04 '18
Not even anything you mentioned, but the part about pedophiles being homosexuals and then going into a completely unrelated point as if that justifies whatever point they were trying to make that isn't quite clear.
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u/x4candles Oct 04 '18
"well it's either blood and cum or ketchup and mayo."
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u/nilok1 Oct 04 '18
I can remember how Bill Donohue threw a fit about the 'Bloody Mary' episode. He said it was insulting to Catholics and he demanded an apology from the network, for the episode to be pulled from rotation and it not be included in the dvd set-- none of which happened.
Later Trey and Matt did an episode where they bashed him personally. They even had him kill Jesus himself. He was pretty butt-hurt about it.
Hey, Bill, stop taking them on-- you're going to lose! They took on Tom Cruise AND Scientology and won.
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u/seanular Oct 04 '18
Which episode was that?
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u/Red_Dox Oct 04 '18
s09e12. And the fudge packer got another round in the censored 200 + 201 episodes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200_(South_Park).
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Oct 04 '18
I'm Catholic and Bill Donahue isn't. He's a jackass who uses Catholicism to make money. Sorry for him.
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u/bethster2000 Oct 04 '18
I found out yesterday that a boy I knew when I was in Catholic school was molested by one of the priests. A man I knew very well and took Holy Communion from on many occasions.
This boy, now a man, has had a lifelong problem with alcohol and PTSD stemming from his abuse.
The Catholic Church can go fuck itself.
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u/JimGerm Oct 04 '18
The creators are many things, but cowards they are absolutely not.
No one, and I mean NO ONE is off limits in South park, and that's the single greatest thing about the show.
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u/krazysh0t Oct 04 '18
The Catholic Church still can't handle satire? No surprise here.
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Oct 05 '18
Catholic League isn't the Catholic Church
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u/joey_sandwich277 Oct 05 '18
Yeah, as someone who was raised a strict Catholic, I had never heard of the Catholic League until today. Looks like a bunch of angry white men who just want to sue people and claim it's in the name of Catholicism.
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u/dubekoms420 Oct 04 '18
That cum cleanup crew killed me.
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u/Diegobyte Oct 04 '18
The sound effect of that vacuum thing. Just some guy making a noise 😂😂😂
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u/atdifreak64 Oct 04 '18
This reminds me when they got pissed at the Simpsons episode where Bart asks Marge if they can go catholic so they can have “communion wafers and booze”
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u/ShellSwitch Oct 04 '18
I'm a firm believer in God but it doesnt mean I dont keep myself open to a good sense of humor. I love South park and have seen every episode multiple times.
Hats off to Matt and Trey!
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u/CryBabyConservative Oct 04 '18
The cowards are those who protected and continue to protect the priest rapists.
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u/InfiltratorOmega Oct 04 '18
Can I just check this, he'd be okay with it if they'd said priests molest boys? It's just the age of the victims he doesn't agree with?
"Oh sure, priests molest boys, but not young boys. We're not paedophiles, we only sexually assault them when they've grown up a bit"
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u/Filmmagician Oct 04 '18
Really? Like this was the first time they've made fun of the Catholic church. Like the catholic church should be pointing fingers right now lol
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u/CelatiMortem Oct 04 '18
They’re cowards because they didn’t portray the priests who like to molest children as homosexuals who preferred to molest adolescents? Like, would that have made it any better? I’m pretty sure molesting adolescents isn’t very Christian, Bill.
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Oct 04 '18
haha fucking catholics lmao
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u/Sks44 Oct 04 '18
I was raised Catholic. It was funny. The RCC does lots of good but it’s handling of this issue has been a cavalcade of fuck ups.
The Catholic League is basically one asshole in Maryland. He speaks for himself.
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u/Erock11 Oct 05 '18
Like I said south park is hitting on topics hard this season hence #cancelsouthpark and I hope it gets even more spicy
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u/target_locked Oct 05 '18
As a catholic I would hope you guys would be more interested in getting the pope to do something about the constant child fucking instead of getting mad at South Park for poking fun. Which by the way, they did nearly a decade ago!
So sayeth the spider!
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u/Diegobyte Oct 04 '18
The punchline with him “winning” a transfer is great because that’s what the church was doing for years.
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u/Klaeni Oct 04 '18
Hahahahaha!
Better to have homosexual priests who molest teenagers?
What would Jesus say?
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u/Completelyshitfaced Oct 04 '18
”Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on last night’s episode of Comedy Central’s “South Park”:
The October 3rd episode of “South Park,” titled “A Boy and a Priest,” portrayed molesting priests as pedophiles. This is factually inaccurate: almost all the molesters–8 in 10–have been homosexuals. Therefore, the cartoon-victim characters should have been depicted as adolescents, not kids.”
What in the actual fuck? Can someone please explain what the point he is trying to make to me here is?
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u/horkus1 Oct 05 '18
So, he’s taking issue with the age of victims and sexual orientation of the predatory priests but NOT whether or not they are abused?
Holy. Shit.
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Oct 05 '18
the Catholic Church won't cringe at boys getting raped but will cringe at a to South Park episode. SMH
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u/vman4402 Oct 05 '18
This is similar to a pedo trying to justify their actions by saying, “The media is lying about me when they said I fucked a six year old. He was actually nine”. Still illegal (and gross), you child rapists.
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u/GT225 Oct 04 '18
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on last night’s episode of Comedy Central’s “South Park”:
The October 3rd episode of “South Park,” titled “A Boy and a Priest,” portrayed molesting priests as pedophiles. This is factually inaccurate: almost all the molesters–8 in 10–have been homosexuals. Therefore, the cartoon-victim characters should have been depicted as adolescents, not kids.
In Hollywood, the creators of “South Park,” Trey Parker and Matt Stone, are seen as courageous. They are really cowards. It takes courage to tell the truth.
What? I am having some trouble warping my head around this. The church seams like it have a problem with the fact that the boys were too young? That people being molested isn't the problem, that Gay priest are?
What The Fuck Dose This Fucker Mean?!?
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u/Jaysyn4Reddit Oct 04 '18
Like they give a shit about the opinion of people who cover for pedophiles.
Also, Bill Donahue is a a pile of smegma & feces in a human skin sack.
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u/Freddy_McNernie Oct 04 '18
Red Hot Catholic Love was IMO, way more offensive (yet still hilarious). I don't quite understand why people feel the need to be butthurt. If anything, defending the dirty priests basically promotes their pedophilia.
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u/TheCanadianEmpire Oct 04 '18
Wait wait, Bill Donahue, the guy from the Easter bunny episode, is a real person?
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u/TheRedmanCometh Oct 04 '18
So okay I think we can safely say a large part of the victim mentality certain people in the USA have is rooted in Christianity.
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u/gtsrider9 Oct 05 '18
They are going for the jugular this season and I'm loving it. People just cant handle the truth
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u/birthdaylines Oct 04 '18
Good job to the creators. They are on a mission and I am loving every part of it!