r/politics • u/SAJ-13 California • 4d ago

Biden concedes debate fumbles but declares he will defend democracy. Dems stick by him -- for now Soft Paywall

https://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/biden-concedes-debate-fumbles-but-declares-he-will-defend-democracy-dems-stick-by-him-for-now/U2ARRYCGIZC7BF5YK2T4OMTGYY/
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u/Death_and_Gravity1 4d ago

People have been raising red flags about Biden's reelection chances for years and every time they were told by the Party to sit down and get in line. It took the worst debate performance in modern political history for the DNC to wake up to how much trouble their hubris got us into

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u/snoo_spoo 4d ago

Who says they're awake now? IMO, their game plan was to get Biden over the finish line in November, replace him with Harris, and then try the "it's an incumbent, we can't possibly have a competitive primary" ploy in 2028.

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u/Schlonzig 4d ago

They could‘ve done that in 2023, but didn’t.

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u/James_E_Rustle 4d ago edited 4d ago

It's the same idiots in charge as 2016. The DNC is a hopeless, corrupt, inept organization. Nobody should be surprised they learned absolutely nothing.

The left wing needs to decide if they want to get serious and start a real grassroots movement to create an actual left wing party. Because the DNC is not it at this point and is almost directly responsible for this Trump mess we are in.

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u/Wide-Surprise8810 4d ago

Look what they did to Bowman! Which makes them complicit in genocide in my opinion but I digress... Joe has a rare moment where he can "be" the dominate and deciding voice in that clown car. Deals need to be made. And fast!

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u/Kaprak Florida 4d ago

... Bowman got primaried because he's a weirdo 9/11 conspiracy guy and the fire alarm stunt????

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u/PunkJackal 4d ago

On top of which he says he reps the Bronx but is primarily a Westchester candidate

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u/not-my-other-alt 4d ago

His district was different the first time he ran. NY dems gave him a big swath of Westchester in the redistricting.

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u/KnowThySelf101 4d ago

No those were "scandals" brought up by oppo research. He was gerrymandered and spent out of office by conservative dems and AIPAC.

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u/Wide-Surprise8810 4d ago

The fire alarm stunt was game. You don't seem to have it.

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u/The_Bard 4d ago

Can you provide me some proof of the DNC doing or saying anything about Biden running? All I saw was no one of consequence run against him in the primary.

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u/TheDoomBlade13 4d ago

Nobody ran against him because the party pressures people not to challenge incumbents.

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u/The_Bard 4d ago

Name one or show an example otherwise you are full of it. Very rare to run against an incumbent and you know it.

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u/Deviouss 4d ago

Just look at how much flak Sanders got for suggesting that Obama has someone run against him in 2012. The Democratic party ensures there's little competition when they want, which is why they were also pissed at Sanders for not dropping out so Hillary could get an early coronation in 2016.

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u/TheDoomBlade13 4d ago

Yeah they just air their dirty laundry out there all the time.

It's always clear who has no idea how politics actually works.

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u/Gardez_geekin 4d ago

Yeah the people that think everything is a conspiracy are usually the people who don’t actually know how party politics work.

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u/GarrusBueller 4d ago

Worst debate performance in history? Yeah from Trump. Biden addressed a few issues well enough and made some cogent points. It was a terrible performance, but it was not anywhere near as bad as Trump's.

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u/Few-Metal8010 3d ago

No from Biden

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u/GarrusBueller 3d ago

What points did trump make?

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u/Few-Metal8010 3d ago

I dislike Trump but he did better than Biden. Most people think this.

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u/GarrusBueller 3d ago

What points did he make that you liked?

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u/Few-Metal8010 3d ago

He did better than Biden on immigration. Biden completely fumbled the bag on that topic.

I don’t like either of these people and won’t vote as I’m not in a competitive state.