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'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/pattydickens 6d ago

The problem is that the narrative won't reflect the downward trend or the strength of the current economy in the world. People will still parrot the talking points of inflation and recession regardless of reality. The summer travel season of Americans this year is one of the busiest we've seen in years. People who supposedly don't have enough money for bills are traveling in record numbers. Yet, the narrative is still that everyone is worse off. Facts went out the window long ago. The major news outlets are totally complicit in keeping this bullshit narrative alive. My neighbor bought 2 brand new vehicles in the last 6 months and insists that the economy is horrible under Biden. It's insane. People are insane. I see Trump winning the EC and losing the popular vote. It hurts to say it, but I'm not going to be caught off guard this time. It's better to prepare for the worst than to pretend everything is fine.

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u/Saintbaba 6d ago

I've been scratching my head about how to talk to people about inflation. Like we're within spitting distance of 2% inflation again, but people don't know that - or at least don't feel it and don't care - because all the crazy price hikes that occurred when we were at 12% inflation are still around. And they're never going to go down unless corporations quit it with the greedflation (ha very ha) or we achieve deflation which i'm given to understand would actually be bad.

So how do you win people over by telling them we've got this inflation thing nearly beat, but also the shitty high prices that we all hate are likely never actually going to go away and are just the new normal?

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u/LargePopsicles 6d ago

It doesn’t really matter if the inflation is down if everything still feels too expensive for people. People aren’t okay with “well it’s getting a little better” when grocery prices are still up 25% since 2019.

Not to mention housing prices. You can tell people the economy is doing great and inflation is down all you want, but when rent is more affordable than owning in 90% of US Counties and housing prices continue to fly up with high interest rates as well, people aren’t going to be satisfied with how the economy feels.

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u/ExpressLaneCharlie 6d ago

I totally respect and largely agree with your points, but wages have risen substantially as well. In fact, wages have risen higher than inflation for over a year now. The trend is that wage growth will likely decline, but remain higher than inflation for the foreseeable future.

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u/Joloven 6d ago

Yeah. My workplace is closing because theu expected 10% inflation 2 years in a row amd gave us 12%raises. Now they want us to relocste and take a pay cut.