r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 • 4d ago

'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/Jacksonrr31 4d ago

I remember Hillary doing really well in the debates against Trump and she still lost.

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u/GoodUserNameToday 4d ago

Yup debates really don’t matter. It’s all about bananas and gas prices and those are gonna keep trending down.

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u/MuteCook 4d ago

It’s not even a debate. It’s just a spectacle

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u/SolaVitae 4d ago

It really shouldn't be but for some reason CNN forgot this was a presidential debate they were supposed to moderate and not an episode of the Kardashians

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u/MatrixTek 4d ago

You see, it's nearly impossible for a multibillion-dollar media company to fact-check all of Trump's numerous falsehoods in real-time. Even using GPT wouldn't help; it would be too complex to explain each lie back to Trump and then address his response. The result would be a moderator trying to fact-check him while he continues to lie, leading to a tedious back-and-forth. Eventually, it would devolve into a simplistic true-or-false exercise with diminishing returns.

I'm not even sure /s is appropriate because it seems to reflect their actual stance.

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u/teddy_tesla 4d ago

Lmao GPT is an expert in bullshitting as well

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u/Nefari0uss I voted 4d ago

Have the feed be delayed by 5-10 minutes. Show an area on the bottom of side of the screen statung where the current remark is a fact or falsehood. Maybe put the correct numbers / values / 1 sentence summary of the facts.

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u/ChronoLink99 Canada 4d ago

Trump is GPT3 if it didn't have constraints to prevent it from hallucinating text that a malignant narcissist and someone with anti-social personality disorder would say.

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u/IllogicalGrammar 3d ago

Trump barely said anything that's true, it would literally just end up being CNN having to say "False" to almost everything he said, which isn't going to convince anyone who isn't already not voting for Trump. The issue is Biden's performance; I suspect it will turn away voters.

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u/ChampionshipKlutzy42 4d ago

Doesn't even have to be a facts check but a bar scale of the heat of the lie. If one side is showing high red the whole time you know they are lying.. they will have to keep thier remarks accurate or risk going up on the lie scale.

Chat gpt could do this in real time.

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u/mattjb 3d ago

Exactly. It was wrong for the Biden team to even do this debate, period. Why even give an insurrectionist, twice impeached, convicted felon and abjudicated rapist a platform to spew lie after lie after lie non-stop? They legitimized Trump's campaign when they should've ignored him entirely and treated him as the anti-American scum he is.

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u/Livewire_87 4d ago

Should we be surprised by CNN? This is after all the same media outlet that held a pro-trump town hall with the man right after he was found civilly liable for (and essentially guilty of), rape. 

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u/Random_frankqito 3d ago

Televised debates are never good. This one was awful.

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u/Strade87 3d ago

No that was biden’s job to push back on trump lies. He was unfit and incapable of the task. He needs to step aside so we don’t sleep walk into disaster. That debate was the worst presentation of a politician I’ve seen in my lifetime.