r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 • 4d ago

'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/Jacksonrr31 4d ago

I remember Hillary doing really well in the debates against Trump and she still lost.

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u/GoodUserNameToday 4d ago

Yup debates really don’t matter. It’s all about bananas and gas prices and those are gonna keep trending down.

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u/CharlieandtheRed 4d ago

I love Joe, voted for and campaigned for him last time. He's been a better president than I could have imagined. Heck, way better of a president than Trump, Obama, and Bush. But let's not pretend there isn't something terribly wrong here.

It's not about a single debate performance -- it's that we all saw Joe look terribly elderly and lost. The man seen at that debate would have a hard time keeping his job as a grocery store manager -- I truly mean that. That's not a performance problem. Folks are starting to come out from inside the campaign saying he always sounds like this now. This isn't a popularity contest; it's an election to lead a nation for four years. I don't want Trump to win, it will be horrible for us. We have to put on a brave face and make changes while we can. It's about this country, not one single man.

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u/pinkfartlek 4d ago edited 4d ago

Did you see this video from like 20 min after the debate?

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1806527484982112420

The difference is crazy

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u/MasterofPandas1 4d ago

Where the fuck was this guy during the debate? I mean he still wasn’t SOTU Joe, but if he was like this it would have softened the criticism by a lot.

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u/Taran_Ulas New York 4d ago

Trying not to cough super loudly and wishing he brought a water and some throat lozenges on stage.

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u/Hyndis 4d ago

As per the debate rules, each candidate was given a bottle of water. It was in the podium, along with a pen and some paper.

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u/CalifaDaze California 3d ago

I'm sorry but no this doesn't make me feel any better. Millions of people saw this debate and it was an embarrassment. No one will see this clip.

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u/HHSquad 3d ago

That's the guy we needed at the debate. Sounds so much better here. I thought perhaps it was just a spin but he obviously does have a cold. They should have rescheduled.