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'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/ireaditonwikipedia 6d ago

I agree. I don't know how anyone could have watched yesterday's debate and not at least be concerned.

Biden can still win and this debate will be largely forgotten in a week, but that was a REALLY poor performance. Why are they holding on so strongly to a candidate who clearly isn't the same person as 10 years ago and is struggling with poll numbers?

I understand the incumbency advantage but it's baffling at this point.

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u/processedmeat 6d ago

As a dem what has this debate changed for you?  

We know he was old, stuttered, and mumbled.

Your options are trump or Biden. Life sucks. 

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u/buisnessmike 6d ago

That's valid, I'd vote for a ham sandwich over Donald Trump. Assuming they're the two options, my vote hasn't changed, still Biden. However, I am frustrated by the apparent effort to gaslight everyone into thinking that Joe is fine, or that that debate wasn't a catastrophe of epic proportions. Joe Biden obliterated a significant degree of the confidence the general public had in him. He has never looked older, he missed several easy layups, and multiple times he had inane weird responses ("he has the morals of an alleycat", "we beat medicare", answering an abortion question with a story about immigrants and rape). The stakes are really high here, we can't f*ck around with letting the country fall into the hands of fascist traitors. If I had any advice to give the White House, it's to swallow your hubris and reevaluate what is best for the country. We cannot let Trump win the race, and the main opposition just shot himself in the foot