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'Chill The F**k Out': John Fetterman Urges Democrats To Stick With Joe Biden | The Pennsylvania senator reminded panicked Democrats on Friday that he too had a bad debate once, yet he went on to win his Senate seat.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-debate-john-fetterman_n_667ea850e4b0415858d6a2f1
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u/longtermattention 4d ago

The messaging has pretty much been "Don't believe your lying eyes and ears." He's doing the same shit with defending Israel saying they aren't doing war crimes. Things you can clearly see for yourself

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u/Magjee Canada 4d ago

The message is basically:

Look, either you stick with Biden, or you get the trump again?

 

You don't get to have good, you only get to have the threat of even worse

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u/imnotjohnstamos1 4d ago

It’s impressively incompetent that given 4 years of prep time from winning in 2020, the best strategy the Democratic Party could come up with for reelection was running back “we aren’t Trump”.

They could’ve at least put a 50 yr old out there if the president doesn’t matter and “it’s all about the cabinet”

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u/Magjee Canada 4d ago

Biden should have ended it after 1 term and let them have an actually primary

Primaries create a discourse over policies and allow the new candidate distance themselves from the current administrations decisions

 

Instead we are left with a president committing elder abuse on himself for the world to see

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u/viviolay 3d ago

It’s wild cause they rightfully criticize then lack of a legit republican platform besides “we go with Trump” and yet thing “we aren’t trump” is enough to run on.

The irony.

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u/CCDemille 4d ago

Yeah, and being the lesser evil candidate who wasn't Trump with a demoralised base is how Hillary lost to him in the first place.

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u/Magjee Canada 4d ago

Yep

Biden largely won due to COVID

 

The first stretch in office was pretty good, but top of mind for people is the cost of living and they might think they were better off under trump

Not that I think he will fix things, but I can follow people's logic

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u/sir_mrej 3d ago

That’s how our system works. Welcome to being a grownup. We don’t get to choose unicorns

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u/Magjee Canada 3d ago

What system would that be?

The democratic primary system was redone to allow party insiders to select the candidate and sidestep regular members votes 1/2 century ago

 

Being a grown-up doesn't mean you have to enjoy existing in a rugged system

It's not about generating a perfect candidate, it's about using a primary system to let people decide on one

 

Being grownup would be recognizing Biden shouldn't have run for a second term

Not denying reality and lying about how energetic and coherent he is (in cabinet meetings no one can view) and how he's going to easily win

It's delusional

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u/sir_mrej 3d ago

I don't enjoy the current system

Sitting presidents almost never go through primaries. That's the current system. Yep, he shouldn't have run again. Should've said that on day 1. But here we are.

He's not energenic, he's not a great choice, but he's better than Trump.

As long as you vote Biden and tell others to as well, feel free to complain all you want

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u/dltegme 3d ago

The debate was another 90 minute cheap fake