r/politics • u/croato87 • 6d ago

America Lost the First Biden-Trump Debate Soft Paywall

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/america-lost-first-biden-trump-debate-1235048539/
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u/invokereform 6d ago

Yup. Biden was the only candidate who spoke with substance but sounded like shit. Most independent people won't look past his speech issues.

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u/keepingitrealgowrong 6d ago

"speech issues", come on this cope can't still be real to you

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u/invokereform 6d ago

What substance did Trump have? What policy questions did he actually answer? One of the candidates has policy plans and a cabinet to enforce them, and the other guy is an angry child who just wants to get retribution lol. It's not that complicated.

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u/keepingitrealgowrong 6d ago edited 6d ago

I'm not sure what any of that has to do with you clinging to the idea of Biden's decline as "speech issues" like it's just his stammer.

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u/invokereform 6d ago

Biden had actually rehearsed and has policy plans ready to talk about. Trump had none besides his tariffs and a tax break for the wealthy. You can be upset about his speech, and I am too, bit it's clearly more of a communication issue than an actual cognitive issue. If you deny that, then fine, but you still have to face the fact that Biden still had more policy plan than Trump lol.

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u/prunford 6d ago

Pretty much everyone, including every station covering the debate and post debate, on both sides of the political spectrum, disagree with your assessment. Biden very much does have a serious cognitive issue. There was very little mention of Trump at all post debate, his performance is virtually a non factor from what happened last night.

I voted for Biden in 2020.

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u/invokereform 6d ago

Well, according to a poll I just saw on Reddit, his polling just got a boost among independents. So who cares lmao. Also, btw, every network I saw cover it outside of FOX/Newsmax called out Trump's egregious lies. So, I'm not sure which stations you are referring to.

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u/Mrg220t 6d ago

You're talking about the "poll" asked to around 12 latino independents in a room watching the debate on who they would vote for? That "poll" ? lmao

This one?

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1dqt37f/undecided_voters_say_they_now_support_joe_biden/

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u/prunford 6d ago

CNN, CBS, ABC, Kamala Harris wouldn't even address the direct question about Bidens cognitive abilities when interviewed immediately after the debate by I believe ABC.