r/politics • u/ben_watson_jr • May 19 '24

How Can This Country Possibly Be Electing Trump Again? Soft Paywall

https://newrepublic.com/article/181287/can-america-possibly-elect-trump-again
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u/mdp300 New Jersey May 19 '24

I think there are very, very few people who would switch from voting for Biden in 20 to Trump in 24. What's more likely is that people just don't vote at all because Biden is too old, or inflation, or whatever stupid reason.

And they help Trump, because his supporters will vote. They think that the country has to be saved from communist democrats.

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u/vicvonqueso May 19 '24

A Democrat will refuse to vote over a single character flaw. Trump has 100s, and Republicans still double down

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u/b0w3n New York May 19 '24 edited May 20 '24

There are a lot of troubling views about the middle east lately and using that (coupled with foreign influence) to proclaim they won't vote for Biden since he isn't handling it the way they want him to handle it.

Like... y'all think Trump is going to be better? Dude literally made a "muslim ban". He has a good chance to take the win. Do I wish it was other choices? Sure. Do I wish we had ranked choice? Absolutely. But I'm not going to court fucking fascism because I think Old Man Biden isn't acting perfectly.

Edit: Here come the Trump bots and astroturfers

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy May 19 '24

I got banned from uh... r/lostgeneration I think? For saying basically what you just said.

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u/dryopteris_eee May 19 '24

I got banned from r/latestagecapitalism for similar sentiments. I was promoting liberalism and using the "lesser of two evils" argument (also not being pro-China and pro-DPRK). I'm convinced that leftist spaces are being infiltrated and influenced by right wing propagandists looking to discourage people from voting.

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u/GetRightNYC May 19 '24

Of course they are! Their main tactic it to divide and conquer.

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy May 19 '24

Unfortunately for them, we're mostly old hat at noticing the increasing levels of shittness and just sliding into the next space over without missing a beat. Ask MySpace how that goes lol.

Like banning me from one corner of the internet will stop me from climbing on my soapbox on the next corner and picking up my lecture where I left off. Hah. Just means I'm repeating "letting the red hats do genocide here won't help anybody getting genocided on the opposite side of the planet" on every other corner I wander past.

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u/AffordableTimeTravel 28d ago

Same and same. All the political and news sections of Reddit are absolutely cooked if they don't do something about the clear and obvious astroturfing happening. They even leak into other areas of Reddit that are non political, if there's a large following and dialogue, you can expect propaganda trolls.

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u/smartpeoplearerare May 20 '24

Oh, good grief. You are a plant. You never got banned for that.

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u/Fun_Situation7214 May 19 '24

Haha I was banned from r/conspiracy for saying there isn't anything wrong with punching nazis. Apparently they're a marginalized people

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u/smartpeoplearerare May 20 '24

I got banned from here for attacking nothing other than an idea. This is an echo chamber. No room for competing ideas

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy May 20 '24

Depends on the idea. Generally I like to at least look at ideas and see if there's any value to them, but honestly there's a few that I'd like to bury at the bottom of the ocean.

Same way with books. I love books, can learn something useful out of almost any book, but now and then I find one with zero redeeming value that is actually so poisonous I won't keep it on the shelves. Last one was an Ayn Rand that got stuffed in a hole in the kitchen so the kitten couldn't climb in there again.