r/politics • u/ben_watson_jr • May 19 '24

How Can This Country Possibly Be Electing Trump Again? Soft Paywall

https://newrepublic.com/article/181287/can-america-possibly-elect-trump-again
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u/hskfmn Minnesota May 19 '24 edited May 19 '24

I still believe Biden will win in November. It’s certainly not going to be a cakewalk! But we beat Trump in 2020. We can beat him again in 2024. Trump and his lackeys want us to give up…to think that it’s hopeless. It’s their literal stated objective to flood the zone with so much shit that we throw our hands up in defeat and accept his authoritarian fever dream.

Not me. Not now…not ever.

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u/Basic_Quantity_9430 May 19 '24

I ignored the polls in 2020 and I am ignoring them now. Pollsters just can’t admits that polls in the era of cellphones are useless, and online polls generally get packed by people pushing agendas. Then we finish Election Day and the polls were way off and people are crying about rigged elections because they lost.

There used to be too much money in polling. Pollsters are going to ride that regardless of what it is doing to the perception of the fairness of elections.

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u/hskfmn Minnesota May 19 '24

Exactly. Ignore the polls, and ignore the media horse race. The Justice Department isn’t going to save us, and neither are the courts.

It’s dependent on us to come out and vote in overwhelming numbers.

Vote like our democracy depends on it…because it does!

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u/NatWilo Ohio May 19 '24

The only 'polls' I care about are exit polls, and almost all of those the last FOUR YEARS are telling one story, and it is very not good for Republicans.

Just look at the Primary results for Trump. He's lost overall vote share in REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES. I don't know how that is anything other than a death-knell for him in the general, but the media and 'so-called experts' keep beating the drum of horse-race and doom for ratings and people across the country are just gobbling it down without a moment of critical thought.

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u/scoopzthepoopz May 19 '24

That 20% jumping ship needs exploited like no tomorrow. They need a home with the democrats.

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u/Broad_Teach May 19 '24

That 20% is very deceptive. There are a ton of Trump supporters who did not vote in the primary because he already has it wrapped up. That 20% is probably more like 5%.

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u/mst2k17 May 20 '24

And volunteer. I'm swamped in life, as I imagine a lot of us are, but I'm going to try and volunteer in the next few months. Every little bit makes a difference.

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u/hskfmn Minnesota May 20 '24

Thank you!

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u/Basic_Quantity_9430 May 21 '24

The issue that I have with modern polls is that constant publishing of often inaccurate polls is fueling the behavior where people claim elections were done fraudulently - that is hyper dangerous to the survival of a democracy.