r/politics Rolling Stone May 15 '24

Biden Challenges Trump to Two Debates. Trump Immediately Accepts Soft Paywall

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/biden-challenges-trump-debates-1235021164/
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u/JoostvanderLeij May 15 '24

Trump Immediately Accepts, But Then Comes Up With Crazy Demands Why The Debates Won't Happen Anyway.

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 15 '24

The terms he was offered was no crowd and he's already demanding a crowd after accepting so that's definitely how this is going to go.

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u/chipmunksocute May 15 '24

Yeah the "no crowd" and "mics off when other person is speaking" Id imagine are red lines for Biden's team.  The whole point of this is them trying to keep Trump from making it a spectacle.  Theres nothing Trump would love more than to yell over Biden while Maga fucks in a crowd egg him on and boo Biden, and I cant see Biden agreeing to that at all. I dont think either of these debates are going to happen.  Trump wants a crowd and a chance to yell over Biden, Biden and co want the opposite.  Trump in a quiet room yelling without any crowd feedback will make him look like an ass.

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 15 '24

Yeah I just don't see him actually going through with this.

He wouldn't be able to contain himself and the video of him standing there shouting to be heard because his microphone was off would just look crazy.

If they actually went through with it I would bet he would get up and physically walk over to Joe Biden to shout into his microphone.

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u/MudLOA California May 15 '24

Zoom call it is then.

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u/BootyOptions May 15 '24

"How the fuck do you turn this thing on? Is it on?

"I Need to take a shit"

"Yeah she was one hot piece of ass wasn't she? Hold on a second *FARRRRT*"

"Are we live?"

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u/Rock_Point May 15 '24

Just put a few steps up and down from the podiums and he'll be napping before the third question

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u/seattletono May 15 '24

He's going to approach the current president aggressively? Should go swimmingly for him.

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u/davetbison May 15 '24

Oooh! Are they both gonna be in a Cone Of Silence so they can’t be heard at all when the mics are off? I’d even make it so they’re completely backlit when the other is talking so you can’t even see their facial expressions.

Let FOX produce it and make it all flashy and stuff so even people with short attention spans will stay engaged.

Is it too much to ask for a panel of judges consisting of all living Former Presidents and, like, Howie Mandel?

I may be taking this too far.

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u/crazyrich May 15 '24

Can we cast Zone of Truth too?

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u/Taurion_Bruni America May 15 '24

he would just stay silent until the 6 seconds where he makes the save, then he will start blundering about.

either that, or he just wont speak a deliberate lie, I honestly don't think he knows what the truth is anymore imo

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u/crazyrich May 15 '24

I don’t think he could stay silent until he made the save, but you have a point that HE might think it’s the truth otherwise face narcissistic collapse

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u/davetbison May 15 '24

As if he’d actually follow the rules on anything, no matter how much of a douche it makes him look.

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u/thomasg86 Oregon May 15 '24

Left third Trump, middle third Subway Surfers gameplay, right third Biden?

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u/waterboysh May 15 '24

I dunno... it could be a smart move to allow an audience so Donny feels like he won something but still enforce the mic cuts. There would be cheering and booing for both sides, so while it would be better without that, I think having the debates would be better than not having them.

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u/yovman May 15 '24

I don’t see anything about “mics off when other person is speaking”.
Is that confirmed? I really hope so.

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u/chipmunksocute May 15 '24

That was one of the Biden teams stipulations. I've seen that mentioned in what the Biden team wants from these so I presume they have been conveyed. If Trump has agreed to that specifically or that a news network has agreed to that, I'm not sure. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump agrees now and then tries to change it at the last minute. I still don't think these are going to happen, I can't imagine Trump would be ok with having his mic cut and no crowd of maga folk for him to stir up and boo Biden

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u/mikechi2501 May 15 '24

Trump wants a crowd and a chance to yell over Biden, Biden and co want the opposite

He wants to show the American people that he's astrong man and he can bully our current president.

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u/Objective_Economy281 May 15 '24

Trump in a quiet room yelling without any crowd feedback will make him look like an ass.

I thought his face did that.

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u/ChimpanA-Z May 15 '24

Trump overplayed his hand on the last debates, he’ll do it again.

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u/WonkasWonderfulDream May 15 '24

Trump is going to start yelling at his mic being off and froth at the mouth.

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u/thatspurdyneat May 15 '24

Trump in a quiet room yelling without any crowd feedback will make him look like an ass.

It's like Big Bang Theory without the laugh tracks, uncomfortable amounts of verbal abuse.

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u/DrRexburg May 15 '24

I would prefer to hear their answers on policy. I'm not interested in a cage match.

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u/not_that_planet May 15 '24

Yep. Don't ever assume that right wingers are going to debate in good faith. This is all about the appearance of strength to them and Diaper Don can't win on the debate stage. His plan is already to make a bunch of power moves and demand concessions before simply not showing up.

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u/Comprehensive_Main May 15 '24

He’s done 5 presidential debates already ? 

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u/GravityEyelidz May 15 '24

Yes, and he turned every one of them into a clown show. What was your point again?

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u/DenikaMae California May 15 '24

Even if he agreed to it, I imagine the minute they cut Trump's mic, he'll walk around the podium and stand in front of Biden and try to talk directly to the camera. They need to be in different studios and do a remote debate just to control Trump's stupid ass.

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u/Yousoggyyojimbo May 15 '24

I want him to try that. It makes him look like he's having a tantrum.

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u/Junior-Gorg May 15 '24

Also said the mic automatically turns off when your time is up. I believe that’s the condition he will have the most trouble with.

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u/cybercuzco I voted May 15 '24

Biden: fine we can have a crowd but I get to pick the crowd.

Trump: Agreed

Wait no……

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u/badamant May 15 '24

There needs to be only one mic and strict timing rules…. Of course pumpkin spice shitler will refuse.

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u/JAMONLEE Florida May 15 '24

I wouldn’t breathe near a microphone just used by trump for any amount of money

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u/Whoshabooboo America May 15 '24

Do you capitalize every word you type all the time?

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u/RedditAccountOhBoy May 15 '24

I think it’s supposed to be a headline.

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u/asetniop May 15 '24

Seems obvious OP meant it to be read as a headline.

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u/AlwaysMissToTheLeft Pennsylvania May 15 '24

Now Anything Can Be A Headline If You Want It To Be!

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u/Tellyourdadisay_hi May 15 '24

Bro just discovered formatting

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u/DrGoblinator Massachusetts May 15 '24

I Really Have to Poop

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u/Hyro0o0 California May 15 '24

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?

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u/mysickfix May 15 '24

I remember back in the day when the iPhone did that a lot. Pretty sure the setting is gone or off by default now.

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u/babysharkdoodoodoo May 15 '24

Aww, my plane broke down. Sorry, Sleepy Joe.

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u/ScaredLionBird May 16 '24

I want to but I have a VERY important meeting with Putin.

hastens to schedule one.

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u/Icy-Understanding400 4d ago

or show up and win

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u/TheMathBaller May 15 '24

Biden is the one who is demanding they change the debate format that has been used for decades.

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u/AWildRedditor999 May 16 '24

Suddenly conservative apologists pretend conservatives don't spend their lives demanding things.

Republican tribalists have always hated debates and whine endlessly about them. And you're pretending to care abut some kind of tradition, the thing Trump HATED while he was president unless it was about his activism and republican power. What a hopeless tribalist, you don't have any standards.