r/news • u/Traveler606 • 4d ago

Steve Bannon must report to prison by Monday after Supreme Court rejects last-minute appeal

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/steve-bannon-must-report-prison-monday-supreme-court-rejects-last-minu-rcna158584
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u/Bah-Fong-Gool 4d ago

I'm not one to be a pessimist usually, but I see a dark end of democracy in the USA as we know it. We are utterly and truly fucked, barring the law enforcement agencies actually doing their fucking job and arresting politicians doing Russian bidding.

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u/MalcolmLinair 4d ago

All the law enforcement agencies are drooling at the prospect of getting to be enforcers for the fascists, and as such be above the law they're supposed to enforce.

Even a populist uprising al the French Revolution wouldn't work anymore; the French Monarchy would never have fallen if they'd had access to machine guns, helicopters, cruise missiles, chemical weapons, and nukes.

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u/Hautamaki 4d ago

The French Monarchy fell for the same reason the USSR and almost all large governments fall; the army turned against them. It would be the same in the US, and always has been. Either the army turns on the government, or it doesn't, and the government remains in power. There's never been a serious prospect of a popular revolt succeeding without military support. Even the revolution would have failed without the French.

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u/framblehound 3d ago edited 3d ago

The USSR didn’t fall because the military turned against the government

It crumbled and was disbanded, economic failure led to glasnost and perestroika

The French Revolution while it became a military struggle started with the storming of the bastille which was not a military action at all, and was followed by a number of years of chaos

Your history in both your examples is wrong

If the military were to take over in the USA it would be a travesty of the highest proportions and from thdn on we would be at the whim of that happening again, much like in Turkey

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u/AlanFromRochester 3d ago

The USSR didn’t fall because the military turned against the government

Maybe u/Hautamaki means the failure of the August 1991 coup

Also, while Soviet troops did shoot at Lithuanian nationalists January 11th-13th 1991 they ultimately backed off. There were violent incidents in other Soviet republics as well, but it's a miracle the dissolution wasn't deadlier than it was

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u/TypicaIAnalysis 3d ago

Also france is tiny. When you can travel across your country in 6 hours its a lot easier to seize control.