r/falloutlore 7d ago

Fallout 4 Is there a reason the institute couldn't have just taken a DNA swab of Shaun?

898 Upvotes

I was just re-reading the kellog wiki and it occured to me... why didn't the institute just go grab a swab of DNA from anyone in the vault, they needed pre-war DNA yea? They could have gotten that from anyone in the vault I'd think and transporting shaun back to the institute seems more dangerous than a vial containing a cotton swab.

Maybe I'm missing some lore but maybe yall can give some insight.

r/falloutlore May 23 '24

Fallout 4 Maxson and the brotherhood stance on danse after discovering he is a synth is not a moral choice but a realistic one

672 Upvotes

From a moral point of view, what maxson dose is evil, paladin dance was very loyal to the brotherhood, fought and bled for them for years, and just because he turned out to be a synth, they immediately want to kill him.

But form a realistic point of view, maxson is right, the brotherhood is at war with the institute, and the chance of one them being a sleeper agent for the institute could change the war massively, while dance won't betray the brotherhood even after maxson asks you kill him, we do know that the institute is reusing synths against their free will to do their bidding.

In the institute main story, we have a quest called synth retention, where father sends along side a courser to retrieve an escaped synth, all you needed is just a recall code to shut the synth down, then they could reprogram him to do whatever they please, who isn't to say they cant reuse danse against his free will against the brotherhood, they could use him to assassinate maxson or suicide bomb the prydwen weak point and blow it up like how the railroad dose.

And since you downloaded all of the institute information and handed to the brotherhood, it's not that big of a possibility that the brotherhood knows about how the institute could shut down synths and reprogram, and since paladin danse is a high ranking officer in the brotherhood, the institute will be able to extract loads of useful information that will damage the brotherhood, such as the location of the brotherhood weapons depot, supplies depot and patrol lines.

The fact that maxson dose allow danse to live doesn't make him as bad as people say he is, as he is risking the lives of many brotherhood soldiers just for one should institute retain danse and control him for their goals, so while killing danse is Vile from a moral perspective, its the correct choice from a realistic perspective despite how harsh and cruel it's.

r/falloutlore 8d ago

Fallout 4 Are Mirelurk’s one of the greatest threats for Boston and costal regions?

833 Upvotes

In post-war America, the Mirelurks found in Fallout 4 may pose a greater threat than most realize. They have several traits that makes them a nightmare for most people, their tough armor protects them from most low calibers, while their impressive level of cooperation allows them to attack in large groups. However although there’s several other dangerous traits their rapid reproduction, shown in massive nests like those at the Massachusetts State House and the castle, shows that there a serious threat. These traits combined suggest that Mirelurks are a significant danger and could make coastal regions completely unlivable as Mirelurk numbers increase. we’ve seen at the Castle and at Salem that even well established communities can’t defend themselves when Mirelurk’s grow in large enough numbers. I wanted to share my thoughts and I want to hear what others think.

r/falloutlore 1d ago

Fallout 4 Moe Cronin is just uniquely stupid people know how to play baseball

774 Upvotes

In “flags of our foul ups” the courier know the correct form to pitch the ball and presumably is common enough on the west coast at least that it can be told to others on how not to do it as well, now why Moe Cronin seems to have forgotten idk, maybe it’s just a marketing tactic for him to sell his stock

r/falloutlore May 28 '24

Fallout 4 How is the Railroad wiping an reconstructing synths any different from killing them?

510 Upvotes

I’ve been doing a recent playthrough and can’t find any holotapes or dialogue etc that implies it’s say a partial wipe? If you erase the personality and memories how does that “person” survive? Especially if you also change the way they look. They wouldn’t be saving people as much as just undergoing a sacrifice to let a person they choose take the bodies place. And doesn’t that just push the notion they actually are not people as you can just reset them like that and put whoever you want in their spot?

Also how the hell can the institute not track all of their synths and just teleport them back against their will? And if the courser chip is harder to make just put a tracking chip in the very center of the synths brain so they would not have time to get it out before your tracking alarm says they’ve left and teleport a Courser TO the tracked synth. Sorry if that’s been answered in game I did one institute playthrough years ago.

r/falloutlore May 10 '24

Fallout 4 How do settlements in Boston survive if the city is filled to the brim with raiders?

502 Upvotes

Like I'm strolling around goodneighbor and I just don't understand how trade routes are established here, the city is filled with not just raiders but mutants too at every corner, you'd need a small army just to roll through the streets

r/falloutlore Apr 28 '24

Fallout 4 Was Vault 111 experiment useless?

548 Upvotes

So I recently watched the Fallout show and was left a bit confused. We see in Vault 31 a bunch of people frozen in cryosleep for over 200 years, but wasn’t the whole point of Vault 111 in Fallout 4 to test the cryogenics technology? If they already developed the technology before the war, what’s the point of Vault 111?

r/falloutlore Jun 05 '24

Fallout 4 So Synths can get pregnant?

421 Upvotes

Was helping Danse and Haylen clear the police station of ghouls with Deacon as my companion and suddenly a truck exploded and I started taking Rads, and then suddenly Deacon said something along the lines of

"Yeah, I didn't want to have any more children."

"More"

When you get high enough affinity with Deacon he tells us how his wife was killed for being a synth by the UP Deathclaws. He also says they were trying for kids. Does this confirm Synths can have kids or is this just Deacon yapping?

r/falloutlore 4d ago

Fallout 4 Raiders are just buds

590 Upvotes

This is kind of silly and I’m just wondering what other people think. I remember growing up seeing groups of dudes usually, but women too. They have like 4 friends that are like super close with them that they end up being friends with their whole life. It got me thinking are raiders just groups of friends that just team up and often influence each other to do dumb shit together? I feel like it would explain the vast numbers of them. It’s just the way people pare up and go figure most of them do dumb toxic shit like partying every night and raiding people for resources.

r/falloutlore May 30 '24

Fallout 4 Are power armor hands small enough to use regular firearms, or are they restricted to weapons designed for Power Armor?

297 Upvotes

I can’t tell by looking if the PA frame’s finger is too fat to fit inside a ring guard or not. Gameplay-wise we can use whatever we want, but I’m not entirely sure if we would actually be able to use any gun besides the PA assault rifle, the laser gun, and the heavy weapons.

r/falloutlore May 19 '24

Fallout 4 Why did the brotherhood just destroy the entire institute instead of occupying their compound and destroying synth tech?

362 Upvotes

are they stupid? massive sprawling underground complex better than any of the shitty little bunkers youve had before and you DONT turn it into your base of operations? I get they wanted to destroy them because they had synth tech and FEV but you can just destroy that separately while keeping the base intact cant you? I mean from a strategic point of view occupying seems better than destroying it outright

This is why minutemen will always be peak smh

r/falloutlore 15d ago

Fallout 4 Is there any lore that could possibly explain how the prydwen stays afloat?

372 Upvotes

There’s like 4 tiny gas bags filled with iirc hydrogen(?) thats supposed to make that giant steel monstrosity stay afloat?
There’s the engines on the side but the ship would still have to be atleast close to neutral total weight for those engines to not stand by in full overdrive.
I’ve heard on this sub before that the 40 000 pounds of steel claim is atleast completely unfounded but just looking at it its gotta be way too heavy right?
I can’t imagine the anti-grav luxury car tech that fallout 76 canonized could feasibly be responsible if it was so exclusive pre-war.

r/falloutlore May 15 '24

Fallout 4 "legendary enemy has mutated" and Fallout TV show

270 Upvotes

There's been a lot of talk and confusion about how ghouls have wolverine like powers in the TV show, with a brotherhood guy at the end literally growing another foot and surviving a neck wound only to be told "I think you are a ghoul". I was equally baffled as well, but not in denial as to what is being shown as some other fans were. Wherever did the get that idea?

I'm replaying fallout 4, clearly the main source of inspiration for the show and, boom. Legendary enemy has mutated. I think someone at the show tried to make sense of that mechanic and we wound up here.

Legendary enemies have a yellow like aura around them, and are "mutated". I think how it works in the show is, you become mutated by radiation and you've become ghoulified, which in the show means not only undead but also regenerating flesh and even entire limps. It kind of makes sense in a silly way. If I'm right, this is yet another and possibly the funniest development to the ghoul lore saga.

r/falloutlore May 27 '24

Fallout 4 Why doesn't the brotherhood capture the sub in Far Harbor?

239 Upvotes

You can tell the brotherhood about the synth refuge, shouldn't you also be able to tell them about the Nucleus? An intact nuclear sub with live warheads would be the greatest asset the BoS could have, even better than Liberty Prime, and it wouldn't take much effort to wipe out the cultists guarding it and remove all the radioactive barrels with lead shielded power armor.

r/falloutlore May 15 '24

Fallout 4 Why haven't people figured out who synths are yet?

172 Upvotes

I recently had a discussion with someone in regards to the nature of synths when Chase was brought up. Chase, in dialogue, states she burned her Courser Chip:

''I rejected the Institute, burned my chip, and dedicated my life to instead helping synths find freedom.''

Which to me raises an obvious question: if a Courser Chip can be burned, wouldn't that mean it can be removed from the body? After all, how would she have burned it if it's still inside the body?

And if it was removed to be burned, shouldn't that mean it is possible for people to find out who is a Synth just by doing some (non-lethal) surgery?

It runs counter to the whole ordeal at Covenant, but how else would this work? Synths having some sort of internal incinerator? Was ''burned'' not literal and moreso in the sense of the chip being overloaded somehow?

Trying to figure out how these things can coexist.

r/falloutlore May 25 '24

Fallout 4 Where's all the Enclave armor and tech in Fallout 4?

230 Upvotes

The brotherhood is still relying on T-60 sets of power armor and laser weapons even though in FO3 they killed enclave soldiers wielding advanced power armor and plasma weapons in the dozens. Despite this you don't see any captured X02 or hellfire suits used by the brotherhood.

You can hear someone in the brotherhood say that they're the most advanced opponent they've ever faced, so why wouldn't they bring their best equipment to the fight?

r/falloutlore May 21 '24

Fallout 4 Hot or Not? Commonwealth, 2288

155 Upvotes

So, I'm curious about something relatively trivial. When traveling with Cait, she'll occasionally say: Can't wait to get out of of this G* D* heat." Regardless of time of day, or season she says this. At first I thought that maybe it had something to do with her Psycho addiction. But she'll say it after she's been treated. So, I'm wondering, since the bombs fell, is the east coast constantly hot and muggy now? Clearly, winter in Massachusetts, under normal circumstances, shouldn't warrant a soul complaining that it's too hot. But I know the world of Fallout isn't our world (yet 😐). I wasn't sure if this was just basically throw away dialog, or if it really is supposed to be hot all year around.

r/falloutlore Jun 04 '24

Fallout 4 How defenseable is Diamond city really?

195 Upvotes

We hear that the walls of diamond city are what keep it safe but piper in her personal terminal says that many guards died defending the city. We see a significant guard presence outside of the city too and machine gun turrets, even guards engaging super mutants. Which leads me to ask, just how safe is diamond city?

It's stated in lore that the minutemen saved diamond city from a massive super mutant assault and at the start of the game there is no longer a minutemen faction around. So if another super mutant attack or a large raider group becomes dominant and tries to take the city how likely is it that the great green jewel of the commonwealth can defend itself long term without the minutemen from all the potential threats the commonwealth can throw at it?

r/falloutlore May 26 '24

Fallout 4 Are the Super Mutants those who were replaced by Synths?

292 Upvotes

I’m new to Fallout and am currently going through my first playthrough of Fallout 4 and just found the Institute, and I have a question:

Are the Super Mutants released by the Institute those who were replaced by Synths? I thought it was strange how everyone replaced just disappeared without a trace, with no exceptions. Even within the Institute I haven’t seen anyone who disappeared except Shaun. I figured at some point a Synth and the Original would bump into each other, and that it would be a “who’s the one I should shoot” sort of situation, but if they are all injected with FEV, then that would explain why this hasn’t happened so far in my game.

r/falloutlore 19d ago

Fallout 4 Does Fallout 4’s Commonwealth have a functioning ecosystem?

282 Upvotes

This might be nonsense but it’s something that’s been on my mind recently.

Deathclaws are of course the undisputed apex predators of the wasteland, eating anything and everything they stumble upon. On the other end of the spectrum, we see that creatures such as the Stingwing and Bloatfly are at the bottom of the food chain, feeding primarily on dead Brahmin and other corpses.

Some creatures are more of a mystery though. Why could the radscorpions and mole rats be feeding on? And what about the mirelurks?

r/falloutlore May 31 '24

Fallout 4 Can child synths age/grow up?

60 Upvotes

Can synth shaun, like, yk age? Or are they just stuck like that

r/falloutlore May 31 '24

Fallout 4 I’m confused about the enclaves in fallout 4

78 Upvotes

Since in most fallout games there was one but in 4 I only heard of them from the brother hood of steel guy

r/falloutlore 9d ago

Fallout 4 So, are the charred ghouls in Fo4 genetically stronger than the normal feral ghouls?

248 Upvotes

We know that in game the charred ghouls (and the variations they may have) are beefier and tankier than your average feral ghoul, but do this means that they are stronger genetically speaking to turn out like that?

Or what exactly differentiates a Charred ghoul to a normal feral ghoul?

r/falloutlore 7d ago

Fallout 4 How much would the Commonwealth be attached to American culture?

150 Upvotes

Like if an enterprising warlord wanted to make himself be seen as legitimate would he need to invoke Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt? And avoid calling himself King?

We see in the midwest where Caesar was, no connection to the past and he was able to couch his legitimacy in whatever he wanted as Tribals knew little history. Can the same be said for the commonwealth?

Could a warlord be like "I'm your king now" and if he does well people would accept it, or is the fumes of American culture stronger in the Commonwealth that any ruler would want to be couched in Americana?

r/falloutlore May 03 '24

Fallout 4 How many settlers could Diamond City actually have?

124 Upvotes

Like, baseball stadiums aren’t that big right? Isn’t the in-game size 1:1 with an actual baseball stadium? or is my ignorance of sports making me look like a fool. I just feel like it couldn’t really be a city yk? It feels too small