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Why is he even allowed to compete? ๐Ÿ‡ฒโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ฎโ€‹๐Ÿ‡ธโ€‹๐Ÿ‡จโ€‹

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u/justbrowsing987654 7d ago edited 6d ago

Literally the only way is if he was also like 12 but based on the context, doesnโ€™t seem like it. This is wild heโ€™s allowed to compete. America has a lot of problems but I donโ€™t think someone like this would get out of jail with that attitude here.

EDIT: the since deleted comment before this was something along the lines of how could they allow him to compete. I am NOT defending that 1%. Bury him under the jail.

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u/ZennyDaye 6d ago

Karl Malone had a kid with a 12 year old and still gets invited to all-star NBA games as a VIP guest...

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u/derkonigistnackt 6d ago

David Bowie had 13 year old groupies he used to have sex with, and people still talk about him as a god

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u/WithMillenialAbandon 6d ago

Attraction is about secondary sexual characteristics. Paedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent people. So being attracted to a 13 year old with developed secondary sexual characteristics isn't paedophilia.

I know it's more popular to just call them paedophiles, but it's inaccurate. Trying to escalate outrage against the Epstein flyers by calling the paedophiles has a chilling effect on mature discussion about it, and also lessens the disdain for actual paedophiles. Same as this rhetorical strategy always does

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u/derkonigistnackt 6d ago

I didn't call him a pedophile. But there's a ridiculous imbalanced power dynamic, especially between somebody famous and a child.

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u/WithMillenialAbandon 6d ago

I don't really understand the power imbalance argument.

Power imbalance always exists between men and women because men are 300% stronger (on average) than women.

Why doesn't that make all heterosexual relationships "imbalanced"?

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u/derkonigistnackt 6d ago

Alright buddy. If you don't think there's a power imbalance between a 30 something year old rich and famous rockstar and a 13 year old then I guess I'm just glad you are not a 30 something year old rich and famous rockstar...

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u/WithMillenialAbandon 6d ago

I didn't say there wasn't. I'm just not sure why some power imbalances matter and some don't.

And modelling everything in terms of power relations is a neo-marxist analysis, which isn't necessarily useful or meaningful. Not everything can be reduced to an oppressed/oppressor dichotomy.

So I'm not arguing with your opinion, I'm saying I don't buy the philosophy underpinning your opinion.

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u/UnRealSmoky 6d ago

Power imbalance doesn't refer to physical strength.

You are correct that all relationships are unbalanced in some amount, but you should be able to see how widely different the power balance is between two adults, and an adult and a child.

If you don't see it, I would recommend visiting a psychiatrist who can explain it in a calm matter.

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u/UnRealSmoky 6d ago

1) the scientific language of psychology/medicine and the everyday language of everyday might use the same terms, but they don't need to describe the same concept with the same degree of accuracy.

2) you're technically right but: https://youtu.be/nu6C2KL_S9o?si=LwB8iBIC-TRwEdq7