r/XboxSeriesX May 07 '20

Anyone else underwhelmed by that Inside Xbox? Discussion

I don’t think there was any actual gameplay other than that one game which looked like a top down stick shooter.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

They posted the controller without posting the console. That's weird as hell. Then further weird when they're jerking off "We have more vibrators in this controller...and a microphone!" as if they're changing the world. At no point were anybody asking for those things. And they keep shit like the touchpad that was barely used and the lightbar that is now barely existent. It's just bizarre.

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u/Star-Ripper May 08 '20

It’s not weird, it’s called building hype. Also, it was most likely to control the leaks since apparently they sent out the controllers a few days before the reveal.

First of all, you’re complaining about improvements. Not only that, you’re complaining about some GREAT improvements. I can tell you don’t know much about anything so I’ll try to dumb it down.

The haptic feedback feature has been getting used more and more throughout electronics. Look at your phone, most likely haptic. Expect more companies to include haptic in their products, it’s that good compared to the previous rumble technology.

A microphone on the controller is something everyone has been asking for since the introduction of game chat. Makes it so people that can’t afford a decent mic or recently broke their headset to have another option. Now there is no excuse to being a terrible teammate with no call outs. BUT the great thing about it is that it’s not just one mic, it’s multiple mics on the controller so that your background noise won’t be picked up as much, only your voice will be projected (hopefully).

The touchpad has to stay because it is required in some PS4 games and it’s not like it’s blocking any buttons or messing with the layout. It’s literally just the middle of the controller that wouldn’t be touched anyways. Atleast they found a use for it in a creative way. Same thing for the lightbar, PSVR needs the lightbar to operate correctly I believe. And it gives the controller a nice aesthetic.

Improvements are good, stop living in the past when we’ll soon be experiencing the future of gaming.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

Haptic feedback is using vibration. Thus more vibration, even if it's more precise. They talked up the uses of it but it's not the new age. Stop acting like it is, while admitting how widespread and old it is.

Every system has included a mic. If you don't have one, they are 5 to 10 bucks off Amazon. Nobody has had an excuse not to use one. Do you know why people don't use mics??? Because they don't want to. It seems included for children playing Fortnite. I don't know anybody that asked for it. People who would use it already have mics.

So they're keeping the touchpad for the games that made limited use of it. Okay. Why would psvr need the lightbar to function? It comes with two vr controllers and the camera can't pick up depth with the light bar. They're probably keeping it for the limited use it had with the PS4 games. It's totally fine being there to look cool as long as they wouldn't make a big deal out of it being there bc then I wouldn't think about it.

In the future, be less condescending, bc saying I don't know anything and then regurgitating the press release we both read doesn't make me want to listen to the good points you did make.

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u/Star-Ripper May 08 '20

Sound is also vibration that doesn’t mean they are the same thing. Haptic feedback is way more advanced than the rumbles on the PS4. If you have a switch, you could tell how much better it is than the regular rumbles. It’s a new generation, in with the new, out with the old. Seriously don’t know why we’re arguing about improvements here.

Every system included a terrible mic that WASNT on the controller. I don’t know how you missed that little detail seeing as it is what makes it unique from “every system”. Oh also, remind me what other systems include mics in the box besides the consoles from 2013? Also, 5-10 bucks doesn’t get you any good mic, not even a shitty mic, actually can you even get a mic for that low? Besides, with the mic in the controller people won’t have to worry about buying their extremely terrible $5-10 mic. And by excuse I literally meant that they didn’t have a mic. The more I think of it, the more I see how good of an idea it was to implement a mic into the controller. Online gaming is going to be so much more interesting. Really excited for it.

The touchpad has a good reason to stay, no matter how much you hate it for no reason.

Some people don’t buy the PSVR controllers (which need a light to function properly also) so they use they’re PS4 controller. With the PS5, they still have this option. It’s almost like if they are doing things for the better, right?

I’m not trying to use the article to prove my points, I’m going off of what I already knew about the technologies used in the controller. Like haptic feedback (which is the best rumble tech available I believe, please correct me if I’m wrong), microphone arrays, the touchpad, and the lightbar.

I’ve been trying to stay positive about the consoles because at the end of the day, we’re going to be getting something new and powerful with strong improvements on all departments.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

The iPhone also uses sound in it's haptic feedback. The switch doesn't have room for the rumble tech currently used in controllers. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying they're overhyping the shit out of it. It's not new. The Xbox even has them in the triggers.

No the PS4 included a terrible mic. The Xbox one was decent and yeah since you can use ANY headset with 3.5mm, you can buy an Amazon basics headset used for calling (which means it takes care of background noise etc), get a 12 dollar gaming one from Walmart, there's no excuse today. People casually playing COD, battlefield, siege, etc, division, don't mic cuz they're just casually playing and not into talking to people they are literally going to stop playing with in an hour. I've played with tweens who have mics cuz that's how they talk to their friends after school. A game like Friday the 13 is almost pointless without a mic but that's what you get in matchmaking cuz they're just playing to play. The serious players have mics.

Psvr using the controller is entirely up to the people making the game. Apparently the light bar in the new controller isn't enough to be tracked by the old camera. They're speculating it's bc the new psvr will be inside out tracked like the newer Oculus. For old games you would just plug in the DS4, I guess.

I'm just annoyed when it's thought of as revolutionary. Like the ssd. It just comes off as gimmicky. The Xbox elite controller was the first time anybody included those features at that level before and it was for practical use. A niche use but y'know. If Sony kinda just presented it as it is, I'd probably just think it's cool.