r/XboxSeriesX • u/BCRplus44 • May 07 '20

Anyone else underwhelmed by that Inside Xbox? Discussion

I don’t think there was any actual gameplay other than that one game which looked like a top down stick shooter.

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u/superman_king May 07 '20

Can’t help feeling like Microsoft is jumping the gun, pushing premature half baked games, just to keep their brand in the limelight.

In actuality it is hurting them. These devs clearly are not far enough along into their projects to properly display what they are working on.

Sony’s approach of waiting, may actually work in their favor. I imagine their first console reveal / gameplay will be stronger than this.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

I think Microsoft had the right approach up until today. I liked that we slowly got new information, on a semi frequent basis.

Things like the Dualsense reveal felt rushed as hell.

With that said, I think today was Xbox's first major misstep. These games were very mediocre, and we didn't even get an in depth look at any of them.

They need to hope that Sony's show isn't amazing, and that their July show is amazing. They really need to bring it with the July show.

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u/Clearlmage Master Chief May 07 '20

The last I heard about the controller reveal was that devs got their hands on it and Sony were worried about leaks so they went ahead and announced it on their terms

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u/Star-Ripper May 07 '20

You can’t compare the Dualsense reveal to Microsoft’s event today. Also, what more did you want from a controller reveal? How did it feel rushed when all they did was post the controller?

Haven’t seen the Microsoft event but everybody is saying it’s underwhelming. I was actually excited to see next gen games but is it worth watching the event?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

I mean it's worth watching to see some cool new games, but nothing looked next generation, and the bigger games were missing, or barely showed anything like Assassin's Creed or Madden.

I'm comparing their overall strategies. They should've demonstrate what the Dualsense can do, not just shown of a render of it and write up its features. I'm not even saying show next gen games, but do a demo like what they did for the SSD in Spiderman on PS4. It felt rushed because it was two or three CGI pictures of it and a barebones press release.

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u/Star-Ripper May 07 '20

I’ll end up watching it eventually but I don’t know what I am expecting anymore.

While you can compare the strategies as simple as Microsoft has been revealing more than Sony, it isn’t exactly apples to apples. Both companies have their own completely different strategies, meaning you shouldn’t be expecting the same transparency from Sony just because Microsoft is choosing to. Sony could’ve easily shown the controller being used or give a little more information but it seems clear to me that they are going for the slow build up. It might not be the best but it can ensure that no “disappointments” happen.

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u/ThePetship May 07 '20

The games just look like normal xbox one games. Would not have even known that this was a different console promotion if it hadn't been shoved down my throat.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

The ssd for spiderman was fucking stupid. LOOK AT OUR AMAZING TECHNOLOGY...that's been around for years. You've been able to hook a ssd up to your xbox for awhile now but whatever. I really hate people who take that demo and rub it in faces. Plus it's hard to do a demo for something you have to touch. All it does is different levels of vibration which honestly they could do now but as we've seen with the impact triggers on the xbox controller, many devs don't bother. Programming more vibes is just more work. And then they have features that weren't even used on the ps4 much...like...a speaker. Or the touchpad.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '20

Those are all good points.

I bet the rumble triggers are probably pretty simple to program, so I'm curious how the tension triggers will be utilized by third parties.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

They posted the controller without posting the console. That's weird as hell. Then further weird when they're jerking off "We have more vibrators in this controller...and a microphone!" as if they're changing the world. At no point were anybody asking for those things. And they keep shit like the touchpad that was barely used and the lightbar that is now barely existent. It's just bizarre.

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u/Star-Ripper May 08 '20

It’s not weird, it’s called building hype. Also, it was most likely to control the leaks since apparently they sent out the controllers a few days before the reveal.

First of all, you’re complaining about improvements. Not only that, you’re complaining about some GREAT improvements. I can tell you don’t know much about anything so I’ll try to dumb it down.

The haptic feedback feature has been getting used more and more throughout electronics. Look at your phone, most likely haptic. Expect more companies to include haptic in their products, it’s that good compared to the previous rumble technology.

A microphone on the controller is something everyone has been asking for since the introduction of game chat. Makes it so people that can’t afford a decent mic or recently broke their headset to have another option. Now there is no excuse to being a terrible teammate with no call outs. BUT the great thing about it is that it’s not just one mic, it’s multiple mics on the controller so that your background noise won’t be picked up as much, only your voice will be projected (hopefully).

The touchpad has to stay because it is required in some PS4 games and it’s not like it’s blocking any buttons or messing with the layout. It’s literally just the middle of the controller that wouldn’t be touched anyways. Atleast they found a use for it in a creative way. Same thing for the lightbar, PSVR needs the lightbar to operate correctly I believe. And it gives the controller a nice aesthetic.

Improvements are good, stop living in the past when we’ll soon be experiencing the future of gaming.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

Haptic feedback is using vibration. Thus more vibration, even if it's more precise. They talked up the uses of it but it's not the new age. Stop acting like it is, while admitting how widespread and old it is.

Every system has included a mic. If you don't have one, they are 5 to 10 bucks off Amazon. Nobody has had an excuse not to use one. Do you know why people don't use mics??? Because they don't want to. It seems included for children playing Fortnite. I don't know anybody that asked for it. People who would use it already have mics.

So they're keeping the touchpad for the games that made limited use of it. Okay. Why would psvr need the lightbar to function? It comes with two vr controllers and the camera can't pick up depth with the light bar. They're probably keeping it for the limited use it had with the PS4 games. It's totally fine being there to look cool as long as they wouldn't make a big deal out of it being there bc then I wouldn't think about it.

In the future, be less condescending, bc saying I don't know anything and then regurgitating the press release we both read doesn't make me want to listen to the good points you did make.

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u/Star-Ripper May 08 '20

Sound is also vibration that doesn’t mean they are the same thing. Haptic feedback is way more advanced than the rumbles on the PS4. If you have a switch, you could tell how much better it is than the regular rumbles. It’s a new generation, in with the new, out with the old. Seriously don’t know why we’re arguing about improvements here.

Every system included a terrible mic that WASNT on the controller. I don’t know how you missed that little detail seeing as it is what makes it unique from “every system”. Oh also, remind me what other systems include mics in the box besides the consoles from 2013? Also, 5-10 bucks doesn’t get you any good mic, not even a shitty mic, actually can you even get a mic for that low? Besides, with the mic in the controller people won’t have to worry about buying their extremely terrible $5-10 mic. And by excuse I literally meant that they didn’t have a mic. The more I think of it, the more I see how good of an idea it was to implement a mic into the controller. Online gaming is going to be so much more interesting. Really excited for it.

The touchpad has a good reason to stay, no matter how much you hate it for no reason.

Some people don’t buy the PSVR controllers (which need a light to function properly also) so they use they’re PS4 controller. With the PS5, they still have this option. It’s almost like if they are doing things for the better, right?

I’m not trying to use the article to prove my points, I’m going off of what I already knew about the technologies used in the controller. Like haptic feedback (which is the best rumble tech available I believe, please correct me if I’m wrong), microphone arrays, the touchpad, and the lightbar.

I’ve been trying to stay positive about the consoles because at the end of the day, we’re going to be getting something new and powerful with strong improvements on all departments.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

The iPhone also uses sound in it's haptic feedback. The switch doesn't have room for the rumble tech currently used in controllers. I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying they're overhyping the shit out of it. It's not new. The Xbox even has them in the triggers.

No the PS4 included a terrible mic. The Xbox one was decent and yeah since you can use ANY headset with 3.5mm, you can buy an Amazon basics headset used for calling (which means it takes care of background noise etc), get a 12 dollar gaming one from Walmart, there's no excuse today. People casually playing COD, battlefield, siege, etc, division, don't mic cuz they're just casually playing and not into talking to people they are literally going to stop playing with in an hour. I've played with tweens who have mics cuz that's how they talk to their friends after school. A game like Friday the 13 is almost pointless without a mic but that's what you get in matchmaking cuz they're just playing to play. The serious players have mics.

Psvr using the controller is entirely up to the people making the game. Apparently the light bar in the new controller isn't enough to be tracked by the old camera. They're speculating it's bc the new psvr will be inside out tracked like the newer Oculus. For old games you would just plug in the DS4, I guess.

I'm just annoyed when it's thought of as revolutionary. Like the ssd. It just comes off as gimmicky. The Xbox elite controller was the first time anybody included those features at that level before and it was for practical use. A niche use but y'know. If Sony kinda just presented it as it is, I'd probably just think it's cool.

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u/cchrisv May 07 '20

Agreed! Some of these games look like they can potentially be AAA games but how the heck would we know based on what they actually showed us.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

How did the DualSense reveal feel rushed to you?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

I'm comparing their overall strategies. They should've demonstrate what the Dualsense can do, not just shown of a render of it and write up its features. I'm not even saying show next gen games, but do a demo like what they did for the SSD in Spiderman on PS4. It felt rushed because it was two or three CGI pictures of it and a barebones press release.

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u/MetaCognitio May 07 '20

It wasn't even a reveal. They tweeted an image out because the controls have been sent out to developers so they would leak.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

Exactly

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

I agree, but that was enough to generate as much hype as today's Xbox showcase. Sony has a MASSIVE fanbase in the gaming community and that cannot be understated.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

No doubt, my problem is sometimes they hype and praise when they shouldn't though.

Like I said in a other commitment, if Sony had done this show, they would've been praised or the criticism would've been soft. Xbox's community is smaller, but thankfully more realistically critical on Xbox, when the occasion calls for it.

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u/YouAreSalty May 08 '20

I agree with you. They haven't done a single event for PS5, and the GDC was supposedly for developers that has to have the benefits of SSD explained to them. Like, come on now!

That said, the PS brand strength is incredible so Sony can't really screw it up that much.

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u/Arbiterandrea May 08 '20

Actually the game were really cool. The problem was announcing this as “gameplay reveals” and no gameplay revealed. Plus everyone was curios of this event for some Assassin creed gameplay, but unfortunately nothing.

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u/YouAreSalty May 08 '20

I agree!

The problem is they hyped it up to be something it wasn't. The content itself was a nice start.

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u/rocademiks May 07 '20

Sony’s reveal is absolutely going to crush everything microsoft has done. I am also a BIG Xbox fan and plan on getting XSX.

They are quiet because they are working. It’s better to be silent and look smart than to be loud and then look dumb when it comes down to it,

Today is a perfect example of that.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

I'm not sure if that's true, and there's no real way to know until their event in June.

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u/rocademiks May 07 '20

I agree. But with the last few years as data shows, Sony always rocks the show.

We can expect the same thing to happen. They are not letting current gen hardware hold them back for next gen games, this is something that I am glad they are doing.

Hopefully it all works out !

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u/Apprentice_Jedi Banjo May 07 '20

Silence is bad marketing

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u/themangastand May 07 '20

No man's sky proves that wrong.

Silence is bad for our hearts. Not for marketing.

But as soon as that silence breaks it can create an overwhelming release of hype.

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u/rocademiks May 07 '20

Silence is a Golden.

Especially when it’s something that we all know is this good.

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u/Apprentice_Jedi Banjo May 07 '20

We know nothing about it, how do you know it's "good"

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u/AltoVoltage321 May 07 '20

Because they never under deliver when it comes to games. I like my Xbox but I miss the good Xbox 360 years.

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u/rocademiks May 07 '20

Not sure if you watched the Deep Dive Mark did, or truly understand tech stuff. But yes, the PlayStation 5 is indeed going to be great.

It’s a brilliant machine. Samething with the X.

I’m loving the competition the 2 have this time around. It’s healthy and Microsoft is going in for the kill baby. But Sony isn’t a easy opponent !

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u/NeverInterruptEnemy May 07 '20

or truly understand tech stuff

I’m a computer engineer... that “deep dive” was fucking awful and entirely spin because they had to get out ahead of being the weaker console. It JUST SO HAPPENED to highlight two things that set it apart from Xbox, WHAT AN AMAZING COINCIDENCE! (Spin)

Anyone seriously saying “you probably just didn’t understand it” clearly didn’t understand it.

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u/WalyLama May 07 '20

Mic drop!!

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u/voltaire_no6 May 07 '20

Explain what part of it was spin

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u/Mattfab22 May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20

You have absolutely way of knowing if Sony's event will be better. There's no way of knowing that until actual good games are announced, from either Microsoft, Sony or a developer

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u/SirVizz May 07 '20

Nah... I want to know what is being planned, and I hate sudden surprises (which may or may not be beneficial). I like MS's approach. Showing a constant flow of news allows them to set the narrative. There's still a lot for them to show apparently. I think they're just warming is up for their bigger games towards E3. Still hyped.

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u/hueythecat May 07 '20

Ummm as a PS owner I am neither hyped for fast loading times or 3d audio. Show me the games.

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u/Thor_2099 May 07 '20

How can you say those were mediocre? You don't know shit Bout them.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

Their presentation was very mediocre.

Nothing reached out and said this is next generation, gameplay or graphics wise.

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u/Captobvious75 Marcus Fenix May 07 '20

This gameplay trailer from MS was a PR disaster. What were they thinking?? I know all they are going to get from me is collective eye rolls over the next couple reveals.

At this point, all Sony has to do is provide an actual gameplay trailer and people will be like “ah yeah Sony is honest. I’m buying their system.”

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

No, they’re just saving everything for July. Their mistake was over selling today and underdelivering.

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u/cHAAvezz May 07 '20

How did they over sell today? They put out what this small event was going to be like, it was as expected if you actually paid attention.

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u/combatwombat2148 May 07 '20

They didn't necessarily oversell. The show would have been fine had they not spent so much time leading up to it talking about next gen gameplay. Almost none of it was gameplay, had they not mentioned gameplay nobody would be upset about it

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u/leidend22 May 07 '20

It shouldn't have been the first gameplay reveal.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

They advertised one thing...a first look at next gen gameplay...and people didn't get that. If they said a first look at a few next gen games, then that would've been fine.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

Ok no need to be a dick here. It was implied in a lot of the communications over the last several weeks. I do actually pay attention. And I know quite a lot actually.

Rhetorical (if you’re actually paying attention) Why the Fuck are there so many keyboard warriors? What are you all trying to prove here?

Don’t start none won’t be none cHAAvezz

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u/SirVizz May 07 '20

Don’t start none won’t be none cHAAvezz

Not gonna lie... that was pretty cringey.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '20

Thanks for your opinion, really added value. 👍🏽

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u/SirVizz May 07 '20

Anytime love.

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u/cHAAvezz May 09 '20

If you don’t present brain dead comments then there will be no repercussions. It isn’t keyboard warrior I’d have no problem saying it to your face either. Care to try?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '20

L O L my sides!!!! I needed this laugh today. Later troll.

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u/lazylore May 07 '20

It's better to get this out now, and show better stuff later. Imagine having this at the end closer to the launch.

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u/Eternal-Testament May 07 '20

I still really feel like all of next gen is still too soon. Now with Great Depression 2.0 I feel even more so about that. Nothing seems ready. Both MS and Sony come off like their both overly reactionary to one another and neither is really ready for this. And I'd even bet that years from now, we'll find out that both these consoles were being slapped together in a rush with constant changes being made behind the scenes until the last possible moment.

For both of them is feels like they're pushing these things out when nothing is ready to go just for the sake of having them out.

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u/Thomjones May 08 '20

Yeah but PS5 is supposed to be out in like 6 months and Sony hasn't done shit. I feel like waiting is only working in their favor because everybody can work their imaginations and they don't have to do anything. Meanwhile, Xbox tries to do something real and stumbles. Sony just has to sit on their asses until a month before and THEN tout all the launch info and games. Also, the biggest issue was Xbox advertising they were going to show real footage and then they didn't. If they simply said they would show off some games that would be fine and said we could expect gameplay throughout the summer. That would've been fine. But they overhyped it and then said "We're working on being more clear and transparent"...then you LIE...okay then...

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u/Pieceof_ Founder May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20

Sony will get a stronger reception regardless due to fanbase alone.

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u/leidend22 May 07 '20

That's not how it works. Larger reaction maybe, but fans don't control the content

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u/Pieceof_ Founder May 07 '20

I meant reception, so I corrected it.