r/XboxSeriesX • u/BCRplus44 • May 07 '20
Anyone else underwhelmed by that Inside Xbox? Discussion
I don’t think there was any actual gameplay other than that one game which looked like a top down stick shooter.
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u/Vufur May 07 '20
Until now... Bloodlines 2 is the only one I'm hyped for... and it's not because of that trailer.
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u/thisismarv May 07 '20
They could have scrapped the interviews completely. From years of game shows I’ve never been interested in hearing from the creators unless they were discussing the live gameplay.
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May 07 '20 edited Jun 30 '20
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u/thisismarv May 07 '20
I would hope they are excited ... but i dont care to hear it. I know some people do.
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u/elmatador12 May 07 '20
It’s like those annoying YouTube videos that spend 10 minutes on “Hey guys, before I show you how to do this, let me tell you a story!”
Damn man, just get to the point already.
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May 07 '20
I have to disagree with you there, I was looking forward to Bloodlines 2 creative talking more about it, too bad they didn't.
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u/CohnJunningham May 07 '20
I think they do that just to fill time. If it was just trailers then the event would have been over in 20 minutes.
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u/thisismarv May 07 '20
That just goes to show they should not have this event - if this is all they had. Just wait until July and show the highest quality games all at once.
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u/evanmckee Founder May 07 '20
Or just have a 20 minute video packed with content like Nintendo Directs.
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u/bril_hartman May 07 '20
Idk why you got downvotes considering that’s been tradition forever, except with E3 in June. This just felt like it was kinda thrown together last minute.
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u/thisismarv May 07 '20
I dont get it either ... lets just call it what it is. I admire Xbox trying to get us a steady stream of information. But this was not it.
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u/Cole9156 Founder May 07 '20
All in engine footage. No gameplay at all yet they kept saying gameplay. Smh.
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u/Zen_Popcorn Craig May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
There was that top down third person shooter about the cyberpunk dystopia where the power got cut or the corporation was canceling the entire city or something
No clue what the name was but they did indeed show gameplay for a single game
Edit: it’s called The Ascent
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u/christoroth May 07 '20
Ascent/Ascend or something? That looked quite fun. Dystopian Smash TV or diablo (couldn't quite tell).
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u/Nosworc82 May 07 '20
Everything looked current gen to me.
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u/templestate Founder May 07 '20
Well it’s hard to pick up on the quality of next gen graphics when the stream is 1080p, and not a high quality 1080p stream at that.
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u/Grimey_Rick May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
they uploaded a 4k/60 version that does it much more justice. no clue why they didn't stream that way.
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u/itsmethebman May 07 '20
The Youtube Xbox channel's stream was in 4k60.
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u/Grimey_Rick May 07 '20
Yeah? Mine wouldn't show that at all. It said 1080/60 but it was god awful quality. Definitely not 1080/60. Watching this version was like night and day for me.
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May 07 '20 edited Oct 04 '20
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u/templestate Founder May 07 '20
The Vampire one with the Christmas tree in the intro? Agree it looked Xbox 360 era, that’s because of the developer though not the tech.
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u/nmkd May 07 '20
The stream was 4K.
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u/templestate Founder May 07 '20
Not on Mixer. And most probably watched the stream on their phone or laptop which would limit it 1080p.
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u/nmkd May 07 '20
probably watched the stream on their phone or laptop which would limit it 1080p.
4K still gives you a much higher bitrate.
I watched the 4K stream on a 900p monitor and it was much better than 1080p.
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u/Mattlaines May 07 '20
This is a problem I’m seeing across all of gaming. What does a next gen game look like?
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u/j0sephl Founder May 07 '20
We are at the point now it's less about graphic power and more about art direction and design. You can tell which developers have "it."
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u/maethor Founder May 07 '20
What does a next gen game look like?
Like a current gen game but at 4k/60. With faster load times. At least for the first few years.
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u/wavs101 May 07 '20
exactly, it wasnt until red dead redemption 2 released that i said "ok. THIS is a next-gen game".
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May 07 '20
Eh i would argue games like HZD and god of war also had that feeling.
The issue was that Microsoft had such shit first party support this gen. I am excited to see halo. The only games I have played that are cross platform that feel genuinely really good graphically tend to be games like ac odyssey and far cry but they wont actually be built for next gen until the next game especially with Microsoft touting this 2 year previous gen support (just happens to be the time between AC games tehe).
I expect good things from halo and i expect good things from the rumoured hzd 2 release.
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u/Furqan23 May 07 '20
My question is that in the past games certainly improved graphically with time as developers learned how to harness the console hardware. This was partly because the hardware was unique to each console whether that was the emotion engine etc.
With newer consoles essentially having PC hardware.. how much more can they truly gain just by a deeper understanding and utilization of hardware?
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u/theGigaflop May 07 '20
Tons. VRS, Ray Tracing, Machine Learning (think DLSS equivalents), Mesh, SSD standard... all stuff that is only starting to get added to game engines right now, and all either consume a lot of processing power or help produce better visuals with less processing power, but all of them require a great deal of learning, fine tuning, and balance.
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u/maethor Founder May 07 '20
It's not just a deeper understanding and utilisation of the hardware (that's still a part, but not as much as it used to be). It's that they don't have to worry about the game working on weaker machines.
Look at Crysis when it launched. By focusing on higher end PC hardware Crytek were able to create a game with astounding (for the time) visuals, at the expense of almost no one being able to play it. It's kind of like that with console gens now.
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u/PugeHeniss May 07 '20
We won't see next gen games until they are exclusive to the new consoles.
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u/Lee_Troyer May 07 '20
Which will be after a while. A combination of developper's learning curve and how many PS5/XSX needs to be sold before marketers stop caring about the PS4/X1 potential game sales.
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u/Dorjcal Master Chief May 07 '20
Godfall is already known to be PS5 esclusive. I wonder when the SeriesX exclusive titles will be announced
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u/HelloImustbegoing May 07 '20
I couldnt tell 95% of the games are just dark color schemes.
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u/NotFromMilkyWay Founder May 07 '20
Perfect games for raytracing and variable rate shading.
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u/thduhfjn May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
That’s wat happens when u develop for both current and next gen,
games that are cross gen r not true next gen games, we will only see true next gen games once devs drop current console support
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u/KoalaBackfist Founder May 07 '20
That’s going to be a common theme for at least the first year. Series X will likely just run things better/faster, 4K native at 60fps or something, better LODs maybe.
Especially from 3rd party studios since their games have been in dev for years, made to run on current gen.
But, unfortunately, also from 1st party games since MS has mandated that all their games must also run on current gen. We’re not going to see “made exclusively for Series X” games for maybe 1-2 years.
Our best shot at seeing a pure next-gen game is going to come from 1st party on the PS5. Split hairs all you want, but Sony 1st party is making a clean break from current gen.
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u/skywalker3819r May 07 '20
We got Scorn, Medium, ACV, Dirt 5, Yakuza & Bloodlines. Can't say it was terrible.
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u/Reollus1 May 07 '20
Ya that was pretty much hot garbage which is what i expected when AC valhalla dev came out and said it was not gonna be heavy into gameplay.
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u/Shady_Infidel Founder May 07 '20
There was NO gameplay. Just more cinematics.
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u/THEW0NDERW0MBAT May 07 '20
I think what they do is flash 0.5 seconds of gameplay into the trailers so they can technically say gameplay was there. Like in AC the half second pan in the long Hall might be from in game
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u/Reollus1 May 07 '20
Yup the only people saying it was gameplay was Xbox fanbois and MS. The actually devs said it was not. Very much false advertising on MS part.
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u/Mattfab22 May 07 '20
Xbox fanboys? I'm pretty sure the majority of people who saw the announcement for the Xbox Gameplay Premiere were expecting actual gameplay. Nobody's fault but Microsoft
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u/Hammettf2b Founder May 07 '20
before every video there was a disclaimer stating it was a mock up of what they hoped the game will look like
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u/chief_of_exposition May 07 '20
Nothing but indie titles that could have easily existed on current gen at 60 fps. Really embarrassing for Xbox at the moment, especially considering gameplay was promised and then delivered in the most minute and insignificant portion possible.
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u/Reollus1 May 07 '20
And it was not even series X gameplay. it was all disclaimered which means it was being run on a supped up PC rig for stability.
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u/chief_of_exposition May 07 '20
Yeah, I mean it doesn't shake my faith in the console at all. The annoyance primarily lies in that they marketed the event as something more than it really was and didn't show purely X gameplay.
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u/DanielG165 Founder May 07 '20
Did they? I haven't been keeping up with everything, but I thought they stated that this was only a short 3rd party event?
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u/sachos345 May 07 '20
They said it would be the first look into next gen gameplay. They pretty much did not show any gameplay. They hyped up the first look of next AC game running on Xbox Series X, it was a 30 seconds in game cutscene kinda trailer.
This is AC Origins gameplay trailer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX0fd4q0baQ this is what people think about when they read "gameplay reveal"
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u/chief_of_exposition May 07 '20
I'd have to mow the yard on twitter or gaming sites to see what the official press announcements said. I could be wrong. In all likelihood, the buzz and rumor mill on subreddits like these basically conjure half the PR events for most games/consoles into completely unfounded expectations.
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u/DeadKittyPool May 07 '20
It worked really well as a teaser for games. I am legitimately interested in playing all of those games now, except for Dirt and Madden because those genres aren't my jam.
It's a valid criticism that there wasn't enough gameplay when it was explicitly marketed as a gameplay demonstration.
Not worried about the graphics. These games all looked pretty good for being unfinished, lower budget, cross-gen games over a low bitrate stream.
So I totally understand some disappointment here, but i think people should lower the pitchforks and appreciate these brand new game announcements for what they are. I'm hyped to see more.
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u/jeremylamb12 May 07 '20
I'm a long time Sony fan who is considering jumping ship.
I thought the games looked Good but not anything I'd be crazy excited to play.
My favorites were Scorn, The Medium, Chorus, and Call of The Sea.
My least favorites were: Bright Memory Infinite and Scarlet Nexus.
I'll be getting Bloodlines 2 no matter what happens, lol. Possibly Valhalla depending on gameplay reveal.
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u/arlondiluthel Ambassador May 07 '20
We... Have exact opposite tastes in games. I honestly didn't like the trailer for Scorn because it provided zero information about the actual game, it just showed the (personally way too discomforting) setting.
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u/dmckidd May 07 '20
There’s gameplay footage of Scorn, but from a few years ago. This game has been shown/known for a while now.
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May 07 '20
This is why you always temper your expectations.
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u/BCRplus44 May 07 '20
I expected gameplay lol
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u/HelloImustbegoing May 07 '20
Yes but u got a alien penis cumming on a Console Release
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May 07 '20
Felt kind've awkward sitting there with my kid watching this.
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u/HelloImustbegoing May 07 '20
Yikes. "See son when a cyborg alien loves a zombie and they want to start a family...."
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u/Shady_Infidel Founder May 07 '20
My expectation was gameplay, because they stated “gameplay.” We got fucked.
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u/HelloImustbegoing May 07 '20
So did that alien apparently. XBOX has the best Zombie-Alien-Cyborg porn out of any console.
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May 07 '20
They could have shown us nothing.
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May 07 '20
I would've preferred nothing. They should've just waited till July for all of this for a full-blown E3-like event.
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u/Grimey_Rick May 07 '20
for anyone that cares, they uploaded a 4k/60fps vid that does the visuals on some of these more justice. worth checking out if you were interested in any of them.
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u/tooboredtobebusy May 07 '20
Yes that was not a good showing. They kept iterating that this was "gameplay" when in fact I think only 2-3 games showed any gameplay at all. Everything else were cut-scenes. And then there was Scorn- oh boy. But my fear is these games being held back by being needing to have lower spec versions running on Xbox one. I hope they cut the old hardware free a few years down the line and just make dedicated series x games.
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May 07 '20
Microsoft could have easily fixed this event with a few tweaks.
Change the event title to be something like: Xbox Series X Indie Showcase (maybe not Indie, but set expectations pretty low, these aren’t huge developers)
Remove most of the talking heads/hosts, they are generally pretty embarrassing and are just embarrassing for all involved. I think Nintendo does this quite well with their directs.
Do not call it gameplay if it doesn’t even have a hud. Just call it ‘in engine’ if you have to...
Finally: DO NOT pump this up as first look XSX gameplay. No one was fooled and it leaves a bad taste in the mouth, I don’t think the developers showcased would be all that happy with the response either
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u/darthmcdarthface May 07 '20
Yeah underwhelmed is a bit of an understatement.
This looked like a small mid-year event from 2014 let alone a showcase of next gen games that they billed this as.
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u/cozy_lolo Scorned May 07 '20
The greatest criticism of the Xbone, at least so it seems to me, was its lack of games. Microsoft has done everything right to promote the Series X thus far, and this was their chance to actually show us that there were games to look forward to that justified purchasing the console on the day of release, rather than waiting or whatever.
And Microsoft totally failed. We didn’t see interesting gameplay, exciting technology, or (especially) enticing games. That’s what the console needs; that’s what needed to be shown; that’s what needs to be shown moving forward.
Right now, this looks like a repeat of the Xbox One (which I’m fine with, personally, lol), but with better technology, which may not be enough when Sony is tickling our wieners with TLoU2, Horizon 2, Spider-Man 2, God of War 2, etc.
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u/NotFromMilkyWay Founder May 07 '20
The beginning of a new generation is when the first party games have to do the grunt work. Because those have had much earlier access to the hardware. This was not that event. This event basically showed you what games are coming out in addition to the first party lineup during the launch window. The heavy hitters will follow in July.
Third parties can't afford (especially early on during a generation) to go all-in on new hardware, they need the sales on old platforms.
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u/bananapants919 May 07 '20
I came into this event super excited to see what we were getting with the Series X, and afterwards I can’t wait to see what PS5 is going to bring to the table lol
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u/Atomic9393 Founder May 07 '20
I think the games that were presented were great but honestly, I was expecting more games to be presented. It was also disappointing that the stream was short.
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u/its9am May 07 '20
I rather enjoyed this stream of 3rd party trailers. The guy said in the beginning that it was a slice of what's to come... this isnt ALL of the 3rd party games. They didnt show elden ring, cyberpunk, etc. They're doing an even like this each month until launch so I would view this as a taste of games to talk about until next month.
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u/kami77 May 07 '20
Every single game could have been sold as current gen. There was zero next gen wow factor. And that's FINE... these are lower budget "AA" games for the most part (Valhalla excluded) and I think a lot of them will turn out great.... but when you're selling this as the first ever look at next gen gameplay it falls short in the hype department when everything shown is doable on current hardware.
There are current gen games released years ago that looks significantly more impressive. Like night and day.
The stream was in 30fps. Yes, correct 60fps versions are on Youtube now but the stream was their first impression and they bungled that. The 60fps videos look WAY better than the blocky pixelated 30fps stream.
They should have held this stuff in reserve until July, and had one large 2-hour show with a mix of first party and third party.
Xbox took an L today. A big fat one. They simply opened the door for Sony to drop a 60-second video of some first party PS5 gameplay that would wipe out their entire showing today.
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u/RadialBlur_ May 07 '20
Wasn't disappointed at all. I was hoping for some new IPs and there were quite a few that seemed like they could be interesting.
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u/j0sephl Founder May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
I am kind of the same. You had that interesting DeLorean, medieval, titanfall parkour game made by one person. You also had that SciFi top-down shooter that looked fun.
For the people that are "disappointed" get involved in following the Nintendo Directs. Those would be a constant disappointment for those people.
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u/HorizonLost May 07 '20
Oh boy here we go again, people who hyped themselfs into oblivion got disappointed, go figure.
They said they want to show us something every month until the release of the Series X, so why would they just bring out all the heavy hitters at the first event?
We saw some new IPs which is great, so lets just enjoy what comes next.
People treating a half an hour appetizer as everything MS has to show, smh.
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u/torontoLDtutor May 07 '20
They advertised this footage as gameplay. The issue isn't hype, it's false advertising.
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u/ignigenaquintus May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20
It’s a marketing mistake, you want to rise the hype little by little, always up, never down. They raised the hype very fast (probably because Sony had not revealed much about ps5) and now, after the first game presentation didn’t maintain the same level of hype, even if in the next months we see more exciting games, this gives an opportunity for Sony to take the momentum from them, not to mention that by making the events structured as presenting a AAA game that people really look forward with new games from smaller developers the hype that those events will generate will be compromised, particularly because they aren’t good at that (you have things like E3 for that)
It’s difficult to know what Sony would do now, but simply mentioning a few big games (second parts of AAA games) and showing the console in June would totally give them the advantage in term of hype, from that point onward it would depend on price and game presentation, and Microsoft would have to step up their game (pun intended) big time for those events if they want to arrive to November in the lead.
I hope that the exclusives look good because otherwise they have a problem, I was going to buy both (plus a new TV), but if I like what Sony would reveal about ps5, maybe I would change my approach and buy ps5 only and wait if XBX series X get some interesting games down the line. It’s too soon to tell, but for the time being I didn’t saw any title that either you couldn’t play in PS5 or current gen, or looked that would make me want to buy a new console for them. Anyway, it’s still a long wait till November, anything can happen.
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u/Shady_Infidel Founder May 07 '20
Ya. Pretty underwhelming. Did I miss the actual gameplay for Assassin’s Creed Vahalla? I seen all the cinematic stuff for it and now they are talking about Dirt 5...
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u/Reollus1 May 07 '20
Nope the devs said beforehand that it was not gonna be a gamplay reveal in the sense of a demo. It was vertical slices put together.
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u/Shady_Infidel Founder May 07 '20
Must have missed the devs stating that. If I had known there wouldn’t be actual gameplay, I wouldn’t have wasted the last hour.
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u/Virtual-Face Founder May 07 '20
I mean what did you expect? It's Inside Xbox not E3.
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u/thenecroscope2 May 07 '20
The title was "Next Gen Series X Gameplay". That's what I expected. If this was truly next gen gameplay, then I'll be noping out of the XSX unless they can show something better than that.
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u/mossy1874 May 07 '20
It is only may people big games will be shown June july as always probably get the normal walkthrough mission on Valhalla like u do at e3 that why exclusive games are being shown in july that's my take like the look of 4 games wait to see more we over hype everthing that's halve the problem nice day to you all and stay safe
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u/Matolak May 07 '20
I hope all the meh stuff is out of the way and that June / July will be more promising.
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u/Mrpopo9000 Craig May 07 '20
I told someone, whomever posted with there ridiculous schedule. You people way overhype shit and end up disappointed every single time. Just stop and enjoy it for what it is.
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u/PotteryIsTheEnemy May 07 '20
Going in, I saw people complaining that it was just game reveals for 3rd party games, so I had my expectations set appropriately... but still game out underwhelmed, because of the types of games shown. There wasn't anything I'd be interested in buying, not necessarily because they were bad games, just nothing really to my taste.
The most interesting thing about this, was there was a few Japanese games. They looked like current gen, but improved support from Japanese devs could be good for Xbox.
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u/Billy4Billiards2 May 07 '20
Wasn’t the first trailer a gameplay trailer? The one with guns and swords?
Pretty sure Yakuza showed gameplay as well.
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u/DeathBat92 May 07 '20
Also, is it me or was there no difference from current gen? I didn't see one game that didn't look like it could've come out 4 years ago...remember the Xbox One launch titles...RYSE for example, RYSE still looks better than most games and certainly better than those premiered today, theres absolutely no graphical leap like we usually get.
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May 07 '20
Because you're not watching a 4k stream
But anyway if you look at the first game and the lighting you'll realize the jump in graphics..
Nor ps5 or Xbox one series x are.gojng to look that much better than current xboxonex because the upgrades are more for lighting and ambient backgrounds and ability to have some better textures...
Everyone is going to be disppojnte if they think series x and ps5 are going to look drastically different than current gen and we really won't ever see a huge jump on graphics again
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u/Kmann1994 May 07 '20
At least some of the reason for that is because all of the Series X games will still be targeting the 2013 Xbox One as well. Who knows how many years we'll have games coming out that target that minimum spec.
As with all console generations in history, it will be several years past launch until we get games that truly show off the power and capability of these new consoles.
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May 07 '20
So basically theres no point in spending $500+ in the first launch year?
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u/Kmann1994 May 07 '20
I wouldn’t say that. For some people, having the best and most powerful console is worth it. I for one love assassin‘s creed games and I want to play Valhalla on the best and most powerful Console and in the best way I can.
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u/DefNotaZombie Founder May 07 '20
it seems probable that games will be at 60fps+ and likely more stable/higher resolution on xsex so if you care about resolution and fps, it makes sense
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u/YaGirlLuna May 07 '20
Wasnt the best, but had a few kinda interesting things, but the live chat was really cringy and just stupid.
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u/BreatheOnMe May 07 '20
Yes im really disappointed but its important to remember that this wasn't the xbox exclusive show.
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u/TheBigSm0ke Founder May 07 '20
Next generation is getting top of the line PC graphics and frame rate at sub $700 price tag.
It’s not leaping past what you can see today on a YouTube gameplay video using a RTX 2080 on PC
The sooner people understand that the less disappointed they will be.
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u/LouserDouser May 07 '20
they turned the video to private at 35k likes vs 32k dislikes :O
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u/theGigaflop May 07 '20
they turned it off because that was the live stream feed. They switched it to uploaded version on youtube.
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u/WildWarp May 07 '20
No they didn't. They switched from the live feed to the full upload. I just checked and it's there.
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u/Th3HoopMan Founder May 07 '20
The AC Valhalla reveal was a scam and the really only thing I'm annoyed about. Everything else I can get over. Microsoft showing third parties that they probably had prior deals with to showcase at E3 is fine. They can't control the content that they're given from their 3rd parties so that's fine. The big boys have their own events and probably are saving the content they have otherwise they would literally have nothing to show, that's fine. I liked Yakuza, I liked the Vampire game, I liked a few of the things.
But both Ubisoft and Microsoft advertising "AC Valhalla Gameplay" was a total bait. I realize they said it was going to be a gameplay trailer beforehand, but everyone knows that and the hype was totally out of line.
Let's be real this wasn't an event that was a make or break for buying the Xbox Series X and Microsoft knows that. They didn't show this like "Here are the games to be excited about, here's the price, preorder now!". They obviously have more things to show to push their marketing plan.
I'm not here to criticize AA developers that are probably struggling to get their games made during these times, but that being said it was almost comical how short the Madden and AC trailers were. Like they were only meeting a contractual obligation. A big bummer.
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u/MaximilienH Founder May 07 '20
When they said gameplay, I was expecting like actual gameplay of devs playing the game with people explaining how the different hardware in the Series X gets utilized to help the game run smooth or look better. Also, the Yakuza Like a Dragon trailer was just recycling some parts of the trailer for the PS4 version of the game. At least some of the games looked pretty interesting like Scorn and that Asian Titanfall.
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u/AkiWookie Founder May 07 '20
Was waiting for that AC: Val Halla gameplay we were promised...what a sham. I'm a PC and PS4 gamer and was (still am) leaning towards the XSX but that didn't help at all, lol.
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u/DeathBat92 May 07 '20
Most of those games looked shit, why are they all futuristic/post apocalyptic robot monster games, nothing original about hardly any of them, and the gameplay for Assassins Creed I've been looking forward to all week was non existent, so disappointing.
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u/SDLRob May 07 '20
The other two streams are Hardware & Systems.... and Game Studios titles....
they really needed to have one of those two as the first stream instead of this one.
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u/ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp May 07 '20
It was pretty rough. That's putting it nicely.
I'm still trying to get over that the best thing shown off was that game by that one Chinese guy right at the beginning of the show.
Also fuck you Ubisoft. In engine constantly cutting every other second montage clips isn't gameplay.
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u/BlitzenOmega Hadouken! May 07 '20
Ok I'll be honest some of these look interesting like that dinosaur shooter and the one made by one guy aswell as Yakuza however some others just look decent. So I suppos I'm underwhelmed but interested?
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u/templestate Founder May 07 '20
This must’ve been just a small preview with the July event acting as the replacement for E3. Guess you can’t fault for putting out a less than optimal product in the current environment but I still feel like they misled us by saying they were showing gameplay on Xbox Series X. All of the videos had disclaimers implying it was PCs playing the game with estimated Xbox Series X specs, so none of the studios (maybe EA and Ubisoft are the exceptions) have devkits to really show off the platform’s capabilities.
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May 07 '20
There was gameplay, just not true controlled gameplay.
It was edited, shot and UI turned off.
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u/Co-opingTowardHatred May 07 '20
I think it was ok. There were some gameplay snippets in a few of those trailers, but they would have been better off saying "in-game footage" in their lead-up. But still, there were 5 or 6 games I wanna play there, so I'm ok with it.
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u/jasoncross00 Founder May 07 '20
Yep.
The vast majority of that stuff looked exactly like the marketing materials for current-gen games. I shouldn't be surprised - most of what they're showing is expected to be a current-gen game with the Series X "enhancements" being things like slightly better texture resolution, reduced pop-in, and higher frame rates. But the marketing stuff they share for current-gen games don't exactly highlight pop-in or dropped frames or anything anyway.
Very little of it looked suitably "next gen" and that's probably to be expected from most 3rd party games that have been in development for the current gen for a couple years and are adding on some Series X (and PS5) enhancements in the final stretch before launch.
For these games, you'd see a real difference if they just had a split-screen of the same exact 5 minutes of real gameplay running on Xbox One X and Xbox Series X, with load times and everything. But you're not going to see that.
And it's the stuff from the big AAA publishers - EA and Ubi and Bethesda and Activision's biggest teams - along with first-party stuff where you might see a more obvious "oh this looks more next-gen" difference. And this event wasn't that.
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u/saintjonathan May 07 '20
Wasn't expecting much. Didn't get much. I'll wait to pass any kind of judgment until July.
In the end I still plan on getting an XSX at launch.
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u/arlondiluthel Ambassador May 07 '20
This event was pretty much exclusively third-party. The XGS-focused one in July should be better.
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u/Knight0186 Founder May 07 '20
I think part of it is our fault too. Microsoft said it would just be a third party game showcase with gameplay (they should not have said gameplay). Then half the community got hyped to see Halo Infinite or Forza when they knew it wouldn't be there, and now they're disappointed that they didn't show them.
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u/beaconhillboy May 07 '20
Literally nothing compelled me to buy a Series X in that live stream.
Attention XBOX Marketing Team, don't try to sell the Series X with cross-gen games. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
When the looks/design of the Series X itself is the biggest selling factor, "Houston, we have a problem.."
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u/Deadcrow27 May 07 '20
It was underwhelming for sure. I felt like It was really just advertising for current gen games but they mentioned series x for more views.
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u/the_average_gatsby_ May 07 '20
Despite not seeing a lot of extended cuts of gameplay, I actually thought a lot of the games shown seemed pretty interesting and I'm excited to hear more about them. Maybe they could have announced more console exclusives, but I was pleased with the presentation. A lot more games are on my radar and it looks like there's a pretty diverse offering.
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u/cHAAvezz May 07 '20
You guys do understand that this isn’t the major reveal right? It was for the smaller studios to present some games. This has been known yet you all seem upset about it, absolutely crazy. It was actually a lot better than I anticipated some of those game look like they are about to be great.
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u/DefNotaZombie Founder May 07 '20
Personal take before I saw all the other takes
Call of the Sea looks beautiful, as a rally fan I'm glad to see another Dirt game. The Valhalla teaser was way too short. Most of the games did look next gen with me keeping in mind that my pc with a 2080ti is already giving me next-gen graphics by default
The real disappointment was the valhalla trainer
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u/SirVizz May 07 '20
Yes, but there's more inside Xbox events coming. This is but a taste just to wet people's whistles. The year's still young and there's still games to be shown. I'm not too worried about it right now.
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u/colonslash1 Founder May 07 '20
It was pretty eh for me. I started off thinking it was bad, realized it was their equivalent to E3, and then I kinda just shrugged it off. Looking forward to next month's.
Yakuza does seem pretty cool
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u/dmckidd May 07 '20
It was damn near an indie event. Also for those that have PC, you can get Bright Memory for $10 right now. When Bright Memory Infinite comes out, you will get the update to infinite for free. I imagine they will charge $30+ on the Xbox.
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u/Hunters-channel May 07 '20
I don’t know man I’m interested in that one where they had the dinosaurs and the people shooting them? Can’t remember the name. That one sounds interesting
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u/WaynePayne98 Founder May 07 '20
Yeah... Maybe I'm just too old but I really don't get an incling of hype for aliens, racing and mindless shooters anymore. I want deep, big ticket games that strive to create real world's like RDR2.
As it stands, I probably won't bother buying an Xbox SX at launch, There's nothing I can't wait for.
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May 07 '20
Yep, same.
Scorn and The Medium peaked my interest strictly on the visuals, but the rest was pretty uninspiring.
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u/AlanniJ62 May 07 '20
Actually I was but now that I think about I’m not. I’m more so happy that Microsoft is willing to keep us entertained through these hard times by giving information to us instead of the other camp.
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May 07 '20
Honestly, was anybody really expecting much other than faster, prettier current gen gameplay so early on into the hardware’s lifecycle? Even with all that said, several of the trailers got me intrigued- Bright Memory Infinite, Call of the Sea, Medium, and Second Extinction. All new IPs and two of them (Call of the Sea and Medium) will be on Game Pass, which will be pretty huge.
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u/Nihlus_Kriyk May 07 '20
Yeah. But it wasn't unexpected, I think it's too early to show almost anything. Still, I think showing off another AAA game wouldve helped a bit.
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u/tapedeck13 May 07 '20
Yeah it was bad...they better rebound BIGTIME with their ‘E3’ July XGS show.
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u/icheerforvillains May 07 '20
Yes. I was like, look at all those games I can never play while my kids are awake. Guess I'll have to learn to love racing and football.
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u/LogicOfUnkown May 07 '20
This was a great example of where Sony outshines Microsoft. Games are Sony's forte and they understand the market in a way that will be hard to ever catch up too. Sony will have heavy hitters even if it's not that great of games that first impression will be in a word "great". Microsoft has been doing some great community and quality of life features so I wish Sony would follow but I can't see moving to primary Microsoft ever again because the Sony games are so great. (I'll buy both but I'm a Sony fan more).
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u/SluggardRaccoon May 07 '20
I’m only like halfway through and I like everything but the top down shooter so far
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u/nin0t0res May 07 '20
Lot of people are complaining the graphics look like current gen. It will take time to mature. This happened with the ps4/Xbox one as well. The first slew of titles only had small differences. That being said, from a game play perspective, everything I saw today looked like hot garbage. Upgrade my PC and get a PS5. Those are my plans. I can appreciate game pass. And buy on current gen get to have the game on next gen. Some good ideas there fair to the gamer for once. But this slew of games just looked terrible.
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u/dsquiggle7 May 08 '20
I thought it was fine, but I wasn’t expecting much. I literally was the person saying it’s going to be a little bit more than a normal Inside Xbox, at most. Just a showcase of some third party games coming up. And yet so many people said no, it’s going to be a live event. The Shinobi guy on resetera even said not to expect an “event” and when they announced it they said it was an Inside Xbox. Also the lead on AC Valhalla even tried to downplay people’s expectations on Twitter, saying there would not be a gameplay demo, but an in-game teaser trailer. Do I wish there was a 5-10 presentation of 5-8 solid games? Of course, but IMO it was clearer and clearer every day for the last week that this is what it would be. And I’m fine with that as long as what we get in the future has more substance, as it should be as we get closer to launch.
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u/RobIsDeafening Founder May 08 '20
Yeah, I think we're all pretty underwhelmed. Gameplay equated to what I thought it would be (in-engine trailers rather than actual gameplay demos), but I felt that the "Assassin's Creed and MORE!" approach left me expecting something bigger. Effectively, it was an indie showcase with Assassin's Creed on the end.
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May 08 '20
Graphics are underwhelming. I’m not forking out $400+ for slightly better load times and maybe frame rates. Hardly any gameplay footage. Only a moron would throwaway money on this.
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u/mr__smooth May 08 '20
It was terrible! There are current gen games with much better graphics than what was shown.
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u/ADerp2Hard May 08 '20
Guess that’s the main take away, “underwhelmed” with the main culprit being AC Valhalla *gameplay” actually being a in-game cinematic trailer.
The take away now is that Sony is going to have a big blowout reveal video that Microsoft can hopefully muster there first party in July to counter with a showcase then. Though I’m not sure if this was there feint move or xbox REALLY overplayed the gameplay part as there was little of that.
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u/suicufnoxious May 08 '20
Yup, most of those games looked terrible. The ones that didn't really show anything seem cool until you look up more on google...
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u/Perseiii May 08 '20
If you want to know what console gaming will look like anno 2021, just look at pc gaming right now.
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u/UTMoney37 May 07 '20
Hate to say it, but it was pretty underwhelming